Sony Raids Hacker's Home; Hacker Shares All Known HV Info

[shakey]

No one is ever going to give a **** who these guys are in 100 years.

Also. Your car analogy fails. No one said you couldn't change the insides of the PS3. You can put ****ing gold fish inside your PS3 if you want.

Exactly, But you can't mod your car to be so damn loud that it wakes everyone up as you drive. When you start messing with others, no matter by how little, you have lost all personal rights and must enter into society rights. Your rights end at the tip of my nose, ever heard that?

[George P Global Moderator]

Wow, Sony fans are so defensive, maybe if you paid for PSN sony would be bothered to make it more secure. :laugh:

[EricCartmen]

Wow, Sony fans are so defensive, maybe if you paid for PSN sony would be bothered to make it more secure. :laugh:

Yikes.

[still1]

well sad that he wont be working on it anymore but i believe with all the core hacking out it getting harder for sony.

[Silver47]

I just find this amusing that Sony went hell bent mental on the hackers. I feel that Sony has every right to protect its IP BUT should of looked at previous history of when companies go after hackers. They could of found an easier way to approach the situation and defuse it. Hell look at the Jail Breaking community vs Apple.

[_neutrino Veteran]

If i were him i would have done the same. Release what you have before you no longer have a chance lol.

[Subject Delta]

I think one of the main reasons is because Microsoft didn't embark on a smash campaign against the hackers. Just roll out an update once and awhile and brick all the hacked consoles and ban all the users. Simple. Sony is angering the mob and we all will suffer, Sony the most.

Microsoft may have had the commonsense not to go pursuing mindless lawsuits against people that released hacks, but you can still bet that if it had been possible, hackers would have tried to penetrate live by now. Both the console, and the live service are far better designed than the PS3 and PSN in security terms, that is undeniable.

[Corris Veteran]

Sony have shot themselves in their foot here, by their careless use of aggressive litigation. Now this guy has released tools that will make it easier for every hacker who is interested to hack the PS3

He isn't the only hacker trying to get into stuff, if he didn't release anything, someone else would have eventually.

Trying to blackmail a company with a threat isn't going to work, they obviously don't care about it, the only thing it did was draw attention to himself and as we can see, will now have repercussions on his personal life.

[DukeEsquire]

Microsoft may have had the commonsense not to go pursuing mindless lawsuits against people that released hacks, but you can still bet that if it had been possible, hackers would have tried to penetrate live by now. Both the console, and the live service are far better designed than the PS3 and PSN in security terms, that is undeniable.

What? People have been playing pirated games using hacked DVD drives on the Xbox 360 and Xbox Live for years now. The PS3 only recent got hacked.

[Subject Delta]

He isn't the only hacker trying to get into stuff, if he didn't release anything, someone else would have eventually.

Trying to blackmail a company with a threat isn't going to work, they obviously don't care about it, the only thing it did was draw attention to himself and as we can see, will now have repercussions on his personal life.

Not really, Sony where going to go after him come what may, so this won't really make him any worse off. He'd have been guilty regardless. Sony have only done 2 things: Helped the hackers, and s*** on their own users.

What? People have been playing pirated games using hacked DVD drives on the Xbox 360 and Xbox Live for years now. The PS3 only recent got hacked.

Pirated GAMES yes. Live however has not been exploited, and consoles with modded DVD drives are usually banned from Live very quickly. There also isn't a glaring hole in Live that allows them to get the consoles of perfectly innocent people banned either.

[djnv2010]

Freaking narcs what kicks does Sony get sending in people to look at peoples replies? No he doesnt deserve that, you are really retarted all of this for a game console?

RETARTED HUH?

[EricCartmen]

He isn't the only hacker trying to get into stuff, if he didn't release anything, someone else would have eventually.

Trying to blackmail a company with a threat isn't going to work, they obviously don't care about it, the only thing it did was draw attention to himself and as we can see, will now have repercussions on his personal life.

The question is "which way are the repercussions going to lean"? It is obvious he is very talented in coding, reverse engineering and computers in general. So much so that he has gained the interest of a mega company like Sony. May be a real asset to an upstart software company or a major rival like Microsoft or Apple. This may be the best thing that has ever happened to him, up until a few weeks ago, not too many people ever heard of him.

Pirated GAMES yes. Live however has not been exploited, and consoles with modded DVD drives are usually banned from Live very quickly. There also isn't a glaring hole in Live that allows them to get the consoles of perfectly innocent people banned either.

This is true. By the looks of some of the "new" hacks coming out, PSN is not very safe. Also, how hard will it be to strip out any DRM from the PSN DLC and give it away? Drop it on torrents ect.....

[Subject Delta]

Apple are the living kings of litigation and they didn't even go after GeoHot. I think that says it all really.

[yekGLzhQ4Qju1FtAVcC4]

The only entity more hot-headed than Geohot is Sony. They touted their device as "unhackable". They had no failsafe, unlike Microsoft, and Apple, who kept their users secure, Sony fails in the worst way, compromising all their base.

Hilarious. Sony is running around with it's hair on fire. They really should have planned for this.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

So, steamworks on PS3 may bring VAC on ps3

[giantsnyy]

For all the guys suggesting Sony should ruing the aforementioned lives should find something better to do (ie, go buy a goat or something) ...

while I do not agree with ruining everyone's experience online, I do believe if I buy something it is MINE and not the companie's .... go figure, I guy a car, change the engine and the company reposes the damn thing because I changed something .... no, it is mine, if a drive it down a clift is my own choosing ...

so, i hope these guys get together and fight ... fight until the world will know their names for 100 years

I hope that you do understand that you own the console but you do not own any software on the console other than a license to use it. I support these guys breaking in to their PS3 systems only as long as they don't even use one single line of Sony code to do it. If they used sony code, then they're at fault and deserve everything they got.

[Paul Ferson Veteran]

Honestly, it is Sony's own fault for this getting to the point it has. They should have found a fail-safe for the PS3 in case, somehow, someone managed to hack the console. Now that they chose not to, there's little they can do to prevent people taking advantage of this. I do hope that Sony find a method for dealing with what is occurring. Some hacks do provide benefits but most do not: homebrew applications and the like are extremely cool, but the concept of people doing this in order to mess with others online is quite pathetic really.

[Hollow.Droid]

Pointless, more hackers will appear to take their place. As for those practically calling for the hackers to be hanged, wtf is wrong with you? Sure, throw them in jail for a few months, ban them from accessing game consoles or the internet but when I read comments like 'Hopefully Sony will sue and drain these guys to the point where they have barely enough money to eat and have to beg on the street' I really start to worry about some peoples mental state.

While the circumstances differ the 360 was also hacked and once modded all a user needs to do is download the iso and burn, something most users could replicate having been shown. Has this destroyed the 360 game market? No. It's as strong as ever and continues to improve, hell we just recently got a FF game, something that was exclusive to Sony not that long ago. Yes these hackers have opened up the PS3 to piracy but it's hardly like it wouldn't have happened if Geohot and a few other select individuals kept their findings to themselves. Hackers have been pawing at the PS3 for years with minor achievements such as playing burned PS1 games (Which also involved a USB hack, yet they still didn't lock the systems USB ports down) and blu ray hacks. This exploit would have been found in time so blaming these individuals for single handedly destroying Sony (I'm not exaggerating, reading some of your posts you'd think Sony has gone into liquidation) is laughable.

[DukeEsquire]

All I can say is the we can bet that Sony will not be including OtherOS in the PS4.

Thanks hackers!

[Jan Veteran]

Pointless, more hackers will appear to take their place. As for those practically calling for the hackers to be hanged, wtf is wrong with you? Sure, throw them in jail for a few months, ban them from accessing game consoles or the internet but when I read comments like 'Hopefully Sony will sue and drain these guys to the point where they have barely enough money to eat and have to beg on the street' I really start to worry about some peoples mental state.

While the circumstances differ the 360 was also hacked and once modded all a user needs to do is download the iso and burn, something most users could replicate having been shown. Has this destroyed the 360 game market? No. It's as strong as ever and continues to improve, hell we just recently got a FF game, something that was exclusive to Sony not that long ago. Yes these hackers have opened up the PS3 to piracy but it's hardly like it wouldn't have happened if Geohot and a few other select individuals kept their findings to themselves. Hackers have been pawing at the PS3 for years with minor achievements such as playing burned PS1 games (Which also involved a USB hack, yet they still didn't lock the systems USB ports down) and blu ray hacks. This exploit would have been found in time so blaming these individuals for single handedly destroying Sony (I'm not exaggerating, reading some of your posts you'd think Sony has gone into liquidation) is laughable.

These 'people' have wasted the many millions who bought the PS3's cash. So why shouldn't Sony do the same to them?

[Rudy]

Pirated GAMES yes. Live however has not been exploited, and consoles with modded DVD drives are usually banned from Live very quickly. There also isn't a glaring hole in Live that allows them to get the consoles of perfectly innocent people banned either.

I'm pretty sure there was a few games that were modified with some kind of cheats (not 100% sure, I don't really care for cheats)

Also modded 360s are not banned as quickly as you'd think. I had mine on live for almost 2 years and there's always new methods to avoid getting banned

[(Spork)]

this will get very interesting now

[thealexweb]

They will destroy his life as they will finish off Geohot - and they both deserve it.

Hopefully Sony will sue and drain these guys to the point where they have barely enough money to eat and have to beg on the street.

You've got some funny ideas on the world to wish that on someone, you may want to consider getting some help.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Haven't they learned anything? You don't sue hackers .. you ****ING HIRE THEM!!!!

[zeta_immersion]

No one is ever going to give a **** who these guys are in 100 years.

Also. Your car analogy fails. No one said you couldn't change the insides of the PS3. You can put ****ing gold fish inside your PS3 if you want.

Exactly, But you can't mod your car to be so damn loud that it wakes everyone up as you drive. When you start messing with others, no matter by how little, you have lost all personal rights and must enter into society rights. Your rights end at the tip of my nose, ever heard that?

modding the engine to some extent is is changing programming (ie golf-tdi/gti), in m3 doing other stuff, some more legal than others .... but my point was, the car is yours, it can be used for illegal purposes but that is your choice not the car company's ... so, to clarify myself ...

I have nothing against hacking the PS# but as long as they have stuff put in place for users with legit hardware to play online it is all good, hell, your goldfish could spin the drive for you, but online the company should take extra caution for legit users only