Mozilla VP : Flash is going away, Html5 the future


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It?s so nice to hear an important person state, flat out, that Adobe?s Flash is unworthy and, thereupon, has no future. Granted, it?s such an obvious truth, but you might not be getting the message if you use Android.

Mozilla?s vice president of product Jay Sullivan :

?I think so in the long run,? Sullivan says. ?A lot of it has to do with HTML5. With Firefox 4, Internet Explorer 9, and Chrome, to the extent that we provide functionality in enough browsers, then the developers will switch over to HTML5, especially in mobile, where you can?t have Flash popping up on every page just to do some little animation. The idea that you?d have to embed an entire instance of the Flash player just to play a 30 second audio clip? It?s crazy.?

?HTML5 is the longer-term answer,? Sullivan says. ?We?re on that path now.?

http://www.fastcompany.com/1737377/firefox-vp-flash-is-going-away

You sound as silly as the guy you're replying to. Microsoft have changed their strategy for Silverlight but it's ridiculous to claim that it's been sidelined.

Well, in the context of the article (the web) yes, it has.

Obviously they haven't sidelined the technology as a whole, as it's all over their WP7.

Mozilla VP can dream on. Silverlight is the future of the web.

I don't think you'll find much support here on Neowin for that science fiction thing. (kinda sad for a "tech" forum that becomes more and more filled with trolls and fanboys every day)

Oh, and yes, I agree with you, Silverlight is the future for rich web apps.

You live in the past. Silverlight on the web has been killed and buried by Microsoft , which moved on to HTML5.

Not yet. Netflix still is using Silverlight for their streaming movies.

Some sites still use Silverlight/Flash for their apps or videos.

Silverlight/HTML5/Flash are being used as of now. Flash may be gone as soon as either HTML5 or Silverlight becomes default for web uses.

2Advanced Studios is still using Flash for their full based website. This website is awesome! I look forward to their updated site with HTML5 if they plan to do that.

You sound as silly as the guy you're replying to. Microsoft have changed their strategy for Silverlight but it's ridiculous to claim that it's been sidelined.

In terms of what MS originally created it for i.e. online video, it's been abandoned.

Even Adobe acknowledged that it has lost the battle for flash.

Adobe caves in to Apple :

It looks like Adobe has finally lost this battle.

Last week Adobe Systems released Wallaby -- an experimental new drag-and-drop tool for developers that converts Flash files into HTML5.

HTML5 is an emerging web standard that can work with the fully featured browsers available on most mobile devices, including the iPhone and iPad. It allows developers to build mobile web pages that are much more interactive and multimedia-rich. (Technically, it's now called just HTML, but most people are still saying "HTML5" to refer to the new capabilities.)

The Washington Post reports that Wallaby (a program that runs on the Adobe AIR platform, which does work with Apple's iOS mobile operating system) "was tested with iOS 4.2. The only supported Webkit browsers at this time are Chrome and Safari on OSX, Windows and iOS."

Daniel Eran Dilger predicted Adobe's move to accommodate HTML5 almost a year ago, in his brilliant mock-biblical chronicle of the history of Adobe vs. Apple, an amazingly entertaining read.

Dilger wrote: "...And Adobe saw four horsemen of the apocalypse ascending from the sea, the rider of the white horse was Steve Jobs and he was bent on conquest. And a second horse, red, was given to iPhone to take away market share from smartphones, and to cause phone makers to wage war and to fall upon their own swords.

"And a third horse, black, was carrying the scales of the iPod touch, and it measured out music playback from iTunes and sold many apps and starved other mobile platforms of mobile application demand. And fourth horse, pale, had a rider named iPad, which pundits called Death. And it caused famine for tablets and plague for slates and killed with a sword. And none of the horsemen used Flash.

"And Adobe frightfully woke from its vision of terrors, and realized that its days of monopolizing the web with Flash content were over.

"...And then Adobe began building HTML5 development tools, and it charged reasonable prices and built cross-platform products and the people rejoiced and Adobe's death was spared and it lived comfortably for many days next to Apple.

"And Steve Jobs said thank you and Adobe said no, thank you. And they all lived happily ever after."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/03/14/adobe.flash.war/

About Flash :

New Critical 0-day Flash Vulnerability Exploited Via Excel Attachments

Adobe today has released a new security advisory for Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat. All three applications are affected by a critical 0-day vulnerability that is exploited via Excel email attachments

All Flash Player versions 10 are affected for all supported desktop and mobile operating systems.

All versions of Adobe Reader and Acrobat X, 10 and 9 are affected

The vulnerability is exploited via Excel email attachments that have a Flash file embedded.

A patch will be delivered in the next week

http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa11-01.html

alexalex, you must really hate flash. Personally, I've always been a fan of HTML. It's what I first learned to program. However, I am not really a fan of HTML5. I think there's been too much shuffling around with what it's supposed to do and what standards it's to support. It made it into a corporate ###### that doesn't really offer any significant advantages over flash. Honestly, I just don't give a damn about HTML5. Flash has it's issues, and while I would be all for a GOOD replacement, HTML5 is not it in my opinion.

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