updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[boogerjones]

9.0 Final just finished building.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Firefox Nightly 11 now support IndexedDB final spec and also Websocket API final spec. Addon Sync is now possible and Hotfix Addon is also available. Mac OS X Lion Scrollbar is in Inbound currently. Style Editor is also enhanced with current theme of developer tools.

[BetaAddict]

Firefox Nightly 11 now support IndexedDB final spec and also Websocket API final spec. Addon Sync is now possible and Hotfix Addon is also available. Mac OS X Lion Scrollbar is in Inbound currently. Style Editor is also enhanced with current theme of developer tools.

Would be really nice to have a sync option that would not require pairing it with other devices, kind of like how Chrome allows all data and extension syncing.

[mysiskatten]

Mac OS X Lion Scrollbar is in Inbound currently.

what does that mean? will it be in nightly or ux tomorrow?

[+Zlip792 MVC]

what does that mean? will it be in nightly or ux tomorrow?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636564

It will be in FF11 and tomorrow's Nightly..

Would be really nice to have a sync option that would not require pairing it with other devices, kind of like how Chrome allows all data and extension syncing.

detailed here: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/12/20/firefox-11-will-synchronize-add-ons/

[PyX]

Firefox on Mac, after all these years and versions, is still nowhere as close to being native as Safari.

[mysiskatten]

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=636564

It will be in FF11 and tomorrow's Nightly..

nice! now let?s hope they fix Lion fullscreen support.

[ArialBlue]

Firefox on Mac, after all these years and versions, is still nowhere as close to being native as Safari.

Same goes for Windows version... it simply doesn't look or feel native.

[mysiskatten]

Firefox on Mac, after all these years and versions, is still nowhere as close to being native as Safari.

I run Firefox on win and osx because I like it better than Safari and IE not because its native.

How is safari more native? and what is native to you?

[Knife Party]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636564 It will be in FF11 and tomorrow's Nightly.. detailed here: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/12/20/firefox-11-will-synchronize-add-ons/

liking the new sync implementation

[BetaAddict]

detailed here: http://www.ghacks.ne...ronize-add-ons/

Yeah, I saw that the other day. But unless I am mistaken, it still requires you to add another device first before syncing rather than just logging in and letting it do the rest.

[parypv17]

Is it me or does the hardware acceleration feature not do much on ff? I have it enabled and the about:support page shows it's enabled, as well as in the settings. I have an ATi Radeon 4800. Yet when I visit pages such as http://hip-hoproom.com/ that have snow animations or even other pages my cpu usage for firefox spikes up and down like crazy, about 30/40% sometimes higher. I'd have thought that any graphical parts of the page especially animated/video like would be offloaded for the gfx card to decode, hence keeping the cpu usage stable. Even when I use the group tabs feature (where all the tabs are shown on a page), when I select a tab to view the switchover seems very sluggish and just not smooth. I've noticed this since they started their rapid release program. I've tried fresh installs too. Pretty annoying!

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

If anyone is running Nightly 11 there is a version update to Nightly 12.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0a1) Gecko/20111220 Firefox/12.0a1

[remixedcat]

oh cool I'll get right on it and......

[dnast]

Yeah, I saw that the other day. But unless I am mistaken, it still requires you to add another device first before syncing rather than just logging in and letting it do the rest.

This might be a silly question (I'm a bit tired so it might just be me), but what functionality are you looking for exactly? What do you mean by "letting it do the rest"?

You can set up Sync on one device without doing anything else. Technically, as long as you keep a record of your sync key and account credentials you should be able to retrieve all your old data if you, for instance, delete your old profile. I don't know if Mozilla's stance has changed since then, but months ago I read it wasn't recommended to treat Sync as a backup service, however. It's only really intended to keep all of your devices synced with each other (from what I read months ago).

If anyone is running Nightly 11 there is a version update to Nightly 12.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0a1) Gecko/20111220 Firefox/12.0a1

Yep, just got the update a little while ago. :)

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Firefox on Mac, after all these years and versions, is still nowhere as close to being native as Safari.

Safari isn't that native either, same as IE on Windows.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Is it me or does the hardware acceleration feature not do much on ff? I have it enabled and the about:support page shows it's enabled, as well as in the settings. I have an ATi Radeon 4800. Yet when I visit pages such as http://hip-hoproom.com/ that have snow animations or even other pages my cpu usage for firefox spikes up and down like crazy, about 30/40% sometimes higher. I'd have thought that any graphical parts of the page especially animated/video like would be offloaded for the gfx card to decode, hence keeping the cpu usage stable. Even when I use the group tabs feature (where all the tabs are shown on a page), when I select a tab to view the switchover seems very sluggish and just not smooth. I've noticed this since they started their rapid release program. I've tried fresh installs too. Pretty annoying!

If site is using CSS3 gradient code, then it is known issue...

nice! now let?s hope they fix Lion fullscreen support.

FF10 has Full Screen API support if I am not mistaken.

[Aaron Olive]

Safari isn't that native either, same as IE on Windows.

Safari isn't that native either, same as IE on Windows.

mind explaining how Safari is not?

[vajlent]

If anyone is running Nightly 11 there is a version update to Nightly 12.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0a1) Gecko/20111220 Firefox/12.0a1

Where is it?

[bogas04]

Where is it?

http://nightly.mozilla.org/

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

mind explaining how Safari is not?

The UI in Safari is composed of 2 parts, WebKit and the toolbar region. The toolbar is custom and WebKit can't use native widgets for web compatibility reasons. The preferences window is the most native part of it.

It's not important or hinders it's functionality in any way, which is why "is it native" is a pretty bad way of judging browsers.

[PyX]

I was comparing it to Safari on Mac by the way. But even on Windows, they did a pretty solid job.

So on the Mac, just to name a few, about Firefox :

- The prefpane is super slow

- It still doesn?t have Lion?s scrollbar (which doesn?t require much on the Developer?s end)

- It still doesn?t have Lion?s full-screen (which doesn?t require much on the Developer?s end)

- The back button is a complete joke visually

- The complementary modules is just strange? as in, it opens a webpage rather than staying in the application itself.

- The close button on the tabs is on the right instead of being on the left.

- Closing the contextual menu doesn?t fade it out. It simply disappears.

- The tab group certainly doesn?t use native OS X animations. It?s all screwed up.

- The gear icon in the popup window when you display all your favorites is different than the Finder?s, and while we?re at it, all the icons are a shade darker than the Finder?s and everywhere else in OS X.

- I could go on, and on, and on, but decided to shut it down after 5 minutes.

I?m running the latest Firefox 8.0.1 by the way. I can?t wait to see what Firefox Next brings to me?

[mysiskatten]

If site is using CSS3 gradient code, then it is known issue...

FF10 has Full Screen API support if I am not mistaken.

you are wrong https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639705

[mysiskatten]

I was comparing it to Safari on Mac by the way. But even on Windows, they did a pretty solid job.

So on the Mac, just to name a few, about Firefox :

- The prefpane is super slow

- It still doesn?t have Lion?s scrollbar (which doesn?t require much on the Developer?s end)

- It still doesn?t have Lion?s full-screen (which doesn?t require much on the Developer?s end)

- The back button is a complete joke visually

- The complementary modules is just strange? as in, it opens a webpage rather than staying in the application itself.

- The close button on the tabs is on the right instead of being on the left.

- Closing the contextual menu doesn?t fade it out. It simply disappears.

- The tab group certainly doesn?t use native OS X animations. It?s all screwed up.

- The gear icon in the popup window when you display all your favorites is different than the Finder?s, and while we?re at it, all the icons are a shade darker than the Finder?s and everywhere else in OS X.

- I could go on, and on, and on, but decided to shut it down after 5 minutes.

I?m running the latest Firefox 8.0.1 by the way. I can?t wait to see what Firefox Next brings to me?

try nightly It have lion scrollbars.

full-screen will be in nightly or ux any day now https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639705

use small icons to have it look more like safari

I?m glad they don?t copy all the stuff safari have like tabs on bottom and close bottom on tabs on left side.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

you are wrong https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=639705

LOL!! Sir, I didn't know that Lion new some kind of other Full Screen support but to make HTML5 Full screen, Full Screen API is landed...