Meet the browser: Firefox Next

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Kirkburn

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Nothing amazing about adding more bloated codecs.

I could have sworn that it's useful for browsers to be able to decode more types of media, but maybe that's just me. (Plus, that was only one of the links listed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674225). Besides, what are you calling bloated? The codec itself, or the fact it is being included?

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+Zlip792 MVC

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Some goodness in Mozilla-central:

(Image Scaling on GPU) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650988

(Background Image Scaling on GPU) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750172

(Azure API bug) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738413

(WebGL missing part) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575688

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ArialBlue

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I could have sworn that it's useful for browsers to be able to decode more types of media, but maybe that's just me. (Plus, that was only one of the links listed: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=674225). Besides, what are you calling bloated? The codec itself, or the fact it is being included?

Being included.

Mozilla is still pushing on bloating up Firefox with codecs :(

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torrentthief

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Being included.

Mozilla is still pushing on bloating up Firefox with codecs :(

Opus will probably be the official audio codec for WebRTC (this is the standard that allows you to use webcams using HTML5 without the need for flash). All browsers will likely add WebRTC and would therefore add Opus. MS won't be adding WebRTC in IE10, presumably because there isn't enough time. Google/mozilla are adding it, not sure about apple or opera.

Opus will likely be used on youtube, spotify etc, it will be used in Skype too. So adding Opus is great news, it isn't just some random codec, it beats all lossy codecs in all areas except under 8kb/s bitrate. It destroys mp3, and easily beats AAC/Vorbis too.

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ArialBlue

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Opus will probably be the official audio codec for WebRTC (this is the standard that allows you to use webcams using HTML5 without the need for flash). All browsers will likely add WebRTC and would therefore add Opus. MS won't be adding WebRTC in IE10, presumably because there isn't enough time. Google/mozilla are adding it, not sure about apple or opera.

Opus will likely be used on youtube, spotify etc, it will be used in Skype too. So adding Opus is great news, it isn't just some random codec, it beats all lossy codecs in all areas except under 8kb/s bitrate. It destroys mp3, and easily beats AAC/Vorbis too.

How is it "bloating it up"? Adding support for a few codecs is not going to slow it down or add significantly more code.

Widely used video/audio decoders are included in the default OS package.

Having one area where all your audio/video codecs are stored (OS) is a very smart idea instead of having decoder duplication.

If some software stresses that it needs some codec that is not included with the OS, it should install those codecs itself in the shared space (so all applications could user them).

I highly doubt that any more codecs are necessary - we have FLAC for lossless and ACC/MP3/AC3/OGG for other. Frankly I never heard of any of these codecs, they do not seem to be used by movie buffs (like Doom9 and Movie Pirates) which usually use the de-facto best codecs for encoding (usually FLAC & THD h264). IE10 and Safari seem to support the 'basic' set of codecs which seem close to the ideal video playback experience. OFC I do not believe in HTML5 gaming and will not address the more specific needs of that...

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Excelsis

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Is there any way to get your bookmarks bar to show up in the new tabs page, like in Chrome? I am loving Firefox again with the new nighties.

Probably not a good way to do it but...


#main-window[tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
  visibility: collapse !important;
}
#main-window[stylish-url="about:newtab"][tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
visibility: visible !important;
}
[/CODE]

This will hide the bookmarks bar everywhere but in the new tabs page.

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Tech Star

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Probably not a good way to do it but...


#main-window[tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
  visibility: collapse !important;
}
#main-window[stylish-url="about:newtab"][tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
visibility: visible !important;
}
[/CODE]

This will hide the bookmarks bar everywhere but in the new tabs page.

Do I put this in stylish or where?

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.stan

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Probably not a good way to do it but...


#main-window[tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
  visibility: collapse !important;
}
#main-window[stylish-url="about:newtab"][tabsontop="true"] #PersonalToolbar {
visibility: visible !important;
}
[/CODE]

This will hide the bookmarks bar everywhere but in the new tabs page.

This only shows the bar but not the text (the items) on the bar :p

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Karl-Johan

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Anyone experiencing high memory usage with beta 13? Mine use a lot more than beta 12 used and is slower with more hangs.

Are you using Adblock Plus? Adblock plus is a real memory hog.

With adblock plus and 4 tabs open Firefox uses 400MB ram.

Without adblock plus and with 4 tabs open Firefox uses 150MB ram.

This is latest UX build and latest adblock plus build.

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+Zlip792 MVC

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Are you using Adblock Plus? Adblock plus is a real memory hog.

With adblock plus and 4 tabs open Firefox uses 400MB ram.

Without adblock plus and with 4 tabs open Firefox uses 150MB ram.

This is latest UX build and latest adblock plus build.

You are using Nightly (UX Builds), there are recent changes in Nightly and new compartment per global landed which is expected to bring 3-5% memory regression and Adblock Plus also got issues while using non standard Regular Expressions so latest Development build of Adblock Plus partially fixed this issue and improvements are back but memory regression is expected.

BTW the user is using Firefox 13 Beta whom you refer to.

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+Zlip792 MVC

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Yes and I can't imagine internet without adblock plus :/

Try new Profile and also update your all addons to get possible fixes for Zombie Compartments for any.

Also use ABP development version meanwhile new 2.0.4 not out.. since it has new Async I/O options to increase performance and reduce overhead..

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bogas04

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Anyone having problems with Speeddial in the last few nightly's ?

All my speeddials are white and no longer link to the sites anymore they just open the properties box for each one

Just clear the cache/history , i guess they changed the way thumbnails are stored (they are not stored in cache memory now i guess) so that is causing the problem...

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