bogas04 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 ^ Gecko uses JS to render its UI/chrome too (i never talked about flash/ rendering of webpages) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594863819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 14, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted May 14, 2012 IGC does make overall responsiveness better , opening/closing tabs/scrolling is faster IMO Unless it gets fixed overnight it will be backed out again. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735099 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 ^ Gecko uses JS to render its UI/chrome too (i never talked about flash/ rendering of webpages) No wander. Way logical to use compiled C++ or something that can actually be fast. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 14, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 14, 2012 Scrolling is done in native code in Firefox, but pages can register JS callbacks for each scroll event, so the JS event loop is intertwined with the main event loop, you can't separate them. Edit: And that's just scrolling, there's a bunch of other things as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V23 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hadn't noticed that the 'PDF Viewer' add-on had been updated recently. The new UI looks great and it loads PDFs very quickly, it's a lot better than the Adobe plug-in. One thing I would like is the ability to choose a 'hand' cursor where you can click and drag the document rather than just the text cursor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hadn't noticed that the 'PDF Viewer' add-on had been updated recently. The new UI looks great and it loads PDFs very quickly, it's a lot better than the Adobe plug-in. One thing I would like is the ability to choose a 'hand' cursor where you can click and drag the document rather than just the text cursor. It still seems to be factor slower than Adobe Reader - I mean like comparing n vs n^4 slower at rendering PDFs. Adobe Reader downloads the PDF and displays it almost instantly after downloading it. PDF JS for some reason renders the PDF one word/line at a time which takes way longer - and it does it again when zooming. This is completely unacceptable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 14, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 14, 2012 If you don't like it then just disable it, and you can keep using Acrobat. It's not even meant to be enabled by default, the user has to do that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594864403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The problem is it Click to play doesn't seem to play well with the Adobe Reader plugin :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594866167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted May 15, 2012 MVC Share Posted May 15, 2012 The problem is it Click to play doesn't seem to play well with the Adobe Reader plugin :( It is not ready feature yet.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594866213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If you don't like it then just disable it, and you can keep using Acrobat. It's not even meant to be enabled by default, the user has to do that. All I had to do is disable Adobe Reader to enable it So it is enabled by default as long as you don't have a PDF reader plugin. It also seems to be very RAM heavy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594867233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=715376 This will improve overall responsiveness even a lot more by suspending activity in background tabs! Not only that , it will also use lesser CPU times and Memory Try it out : https://addons.mozil...ackground-tabs/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594868447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 16, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 16, 2012 It's not going to suspend background tabs, it's just going to be smarter at performing work in them. Currently it stops event handlers and such firing faster than 1 second in background tabs, but if you have multiple tabs open and they're out of sync (due to each page having it's own timer), you could get into a situation where each timer firing directly after another timer, so the browser is still constantly processing events and timers. What they eventually want is a event queue, where each timer or event in every tab is added to a global list, and every second or so it goes through and processes all queued events, allowing it to do other work for the rest of the time (page rendering, etc.) Edit: The addon does suspend background tabs, but that's as a proof of concept. gr9zev 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594868607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thanks for the details and rectification :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594868711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancode20 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Can you use the suspend tabs extension with Firefox 12 Portable? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594872961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted May 18, 2012 MVC Share Posted May 18, 2012 Can you use the suspend tabs extension with Firefox 12 Portable? Yes. It works from FF8 onward. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594873057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The new SPDY feature in the beta messes up Gmail for me. It wouldn't load the "standard" view. So I had to disable it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594877575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted May 23, 2012 MVC Share Posted May 23, 2012 Azure Content Hardware Acceleration in Inbound. Applying Updates in Background landed in Nightly. Debugger Dev Tool is coming as turned ON in Nightly. Off the Main Threading Compositing landed for Linux in Nightly. bogas04 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594881949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Who knows it might be ready for Win8 RP! https://twitter.com/#!/YuanWang1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594882469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Background updates finally landed to Nightly. With this we will have 0 annoyance while updating / applying update https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307181 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 24, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 24, 2012 Background updates are still disabled because of a few issues though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I went to the about window and it downloaded an update then it said "restart to install" so I clicked that and firefox's window closed and nothing happened, I then checked task manager and firefox had shot up to using 13.5GB RAM out of 16GB so my computer was sitting at 15.8GB, this was a fresh profile with no addons. I had to kill firefox.exe, this kinda surprised me! That was some huge memory leak. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 I just did the update I got "Update & Restart" in about window , clicked it , some busy mouse cursor , and Firefox window fired up , no progressbar saying Installing update ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 24, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted May 24, 2012 I just did the update I got "Update & Restart" in about window , clicked it , some busy mouse cursor , and Firefox window fired up , no progressbar saying Installing update ! What you got was probably the 3rd re spin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Hmm I see... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758101 r+ , might land soon? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594885569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted May 25, 2012 MVC Share Posted May 25, 2012 Faster Startup patch for Vista and up to 7 by disabling Prefetching will land in FF15.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/80/#findComment-594887121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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