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Ultimate copy of chrome and sole reason of my in future to leave firefox...

If this uglification UI landed on Nightly very next moment I will uninstall Firefox and shift to other browser.

i guarantee, you'll stay with firefox. i tried to leave Firefox a month ago, extensions an Themes/Persona's are much better in Firefox than they are in Chrome. but i will say if i dont like this New InContent stuff i will def leave firefox. but all in all, the way the computer market is going its all Mobile or tablets or Touch Screens . the Desktop is Dying. just look at Virus8 an Gnome3 an Unity, there all made for those 3 devices. there is No Money in the Desktop no more. companies like Mozilla an Google an Microsoft will make there money from people buying either 1 of those 3 devices. lets not forget the Ipad. Apple will soon only get there money from that to an Mobile

Is it the same version of Australis that was designed a few years ago?

It rounded corner UI.. with several small elements like removal of menu button, bookmark star out of address bar, No search box etc.

i guarantee, you'll stay with firefox. i tried to leave Firefox a month ago, extensions an Themes/Persona's are much better in Firefox than they are in Chrome. but i will say if i dont like this New InContent stuff i will def leave firefox. but all in all, the way the computer market is going its all Mobile or tablets or Touch Screens . the Desktop is Dying. just look at Virus8 an Gnome3 an Unity, there all made for those 3 devices. there is No Money in the Desktop no more. companies like Mozilla an Google an Microsoft will make there money from people buying either 1 of those 3 devices. lets not forget the Ipad. Apple will soon only get there money from that to an Mobile

No doubt about it that today people want to go more and more portable with less hassle of things to interact. Future is mobile no doubt about it.

Actually mozilla devs are now more focused and putting options through users throat these days. Change is good but not that change which is in present since several months.

I will definitely shift to other browser to support them even if I have to compromise on other stuff.

Ultimate copy of chrome and sole reason of my in future to leave firefox...

If this uglification UI landed on Nightly very next moment I will uninstall Firefox and shift to other browser.

Personally , I don't find it a copy of Chrome.. Rather a better approach compared to it. Also when I tried on UX , searching tabs became so darn easy , really nice and intuitive design I would say , it just happens that it has curves and "connected" tabs to nav bar (concept since Firefox 3.7 I guess) and it somehow looks similar to Chrome (okay , who am I lying to , they just probably redid the chrome design to make it more human and less machine like).

Anyways , if it gives more performance than the actual theme , it is a big plus

Guys, I cannot launch Nightly in Metro mode. The weird thing is I can launch it on my mum's pc with a crappy resolution.

My pc is: Q6600, 3GB RAM, W8 PRO, 1680x1050, fresh install W8+Nightly.

When I launch it via Task Manager, it opens and closes again showing only the Nightly logo....

I don't know if it's just me, but everything is bigger in today's nightly. At first I thought I had the text zoomed and tried to reset with no success. Looks awful. Any ideas on how to fix it?

Edit: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=851268 (Setting layout.css.devPixelsPerPx to 1 fixes the issue.)

I don't know if it's just me, but everything is bigger in today's nightly. At first I thought I had the text zoomed and tried to reset with no success. Looks awful. Any ideas on how to fix it?

Check out my Bug Report on this issue at 851268 ? Content and chrome changes size if Windows DPI is >96

After reading it if you agree with me then add your 2 cents to the report.

Ultimate copy of chrome and sole reason of my in future to leave firefox...

If this uglification UI landed on Nightly very next moment I will uninstall Firefox and shift to other browser.

I will be leaving as well. Getting pretty fed up with Mozziline anyway. No one cares. Now we now what is in our update the next day.

Check out my Bug Report on this issue at 851268 ? Content and chrome changes size if Windows DPI is >96

After reading it if you agree with me then add your 2 cents to the report.

Have you tried just using text zoom? If you're telling the OS to scale everything up by 150% then you're going to see raster images become blurry in any app.

Have you tried just using text zoom? If you're telling the OS to scale everything up by 150% then you're going to see raster images become blurry in any app.

I always used text zoom to increase the size of text while leaving the graphics alone. I use the addon NoSquint which let's you define a global default and a per site default. A few sites I use a combination of text zoom and full page zoom which is a great feature of NS.

This new feature in the Nightly acts is if you have your default for everything set to full page zoom at 125%. Sure I can use NoSquint to make content look the same as it always did but It can't control the chrome unless I use some CSS code.

Latest FF beta has really smooth scrolling using the mouse wheel, feels like 60fps gaming vs the last release of FF19 @ 15fps

I noticed this too with my laptop touchpad. Totally night and day difference in scrolling smoothness in fx 20 vs fx 19, 20 is sooo buttery smooth, right now it has the best smooth scrolling of any desktop browser IMO.

I noticed this too with my laptop touchpad. Totally night and day difference in scrolling smoothness in fx 20 vs fx 19, 20 is sooo buttery smooth, right now it has the best smooth scrolling of any desktop browser IMO.

Definitely, I hope its not a one off.

Yeah Web Notification, Multithreaded Image decoding, Flash continuous to play even after tab close specific bug and some ECMA Intl API, Web Audio support landed and later ones continuous to land.

One Australis dependent bug also landed.

Firefox 23 is target to land Baseline Compiler to replace Jaeger Monkey.

I didn't read through the entire thread but I really enjoy using these nightly builds.

My problem is with the UI. Currently I'm using FF stable with the FT DeepDark theme. It seems as though they've replaced themes with persona's which doesn't change the UI. I dislike the light colored menus and tabs and prefer black.

Is there anything I can do to get a similar look on the nightly builds?

Regards

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