The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 3, 2014 Veteran Share Posted March 3, 2014 While 2D drawing does have an abstraction layer, it's very thin. One of the design goals of Azure was that it provided a close mapping to Direct2D, unlike Cairo where there was a fair bit of translation going on (Cairo used a different type of or-ordinate system, different types, different drawing system, etc.) The layers system (i.e. page composition) doesn't even have an abstraction layer, the code responsible for compositing a page together talks directly to Direct3D (On Linux or OS X there's other code that talks to OpenGL, etc.) Drawing needs that abstraction layer (Since it deals directly with path rendering, text drawing, etc. which differ across platforms) while page composition doesn't as it only deals with "textures" (Which could be a video buffer, a bitmap, a plugin surface, WebGL, etc. they're all treated the same regardless of the platform) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596290987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 That may have been true way back when with version 4 maybe when there were leak issues, but certainly not for anything even remotely current. Mine's open with a fair number of tabs and ~22 or so addons for days at a time without issue, only time it typically gets shut down is for the occasional update. Firefox still degrades for me after a few hours. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 firefox is working on a new engine called Servo. It will be multiprocess, multithreaded and written using their Rust programming language which is much more secure than c++. It is in the early stages though, won't be ready within the next 1.5yrs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 firefox is working on a new engine called Servo. It will be multiprocess, multithreaded and written using their Rust programming language which is much more secure than c++. It is in the early stages though, won't be ready within the next 1.5yrs. Between Windows 8 support and this, I have to wonder just what they do day in and day out at Mozilla. Do they even show up for work half the time? Everything over there is either pushed back or delayed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 3, 2014 Veteran Share Posted March 3, 2014 Firefox still degrades for me after a few hours. You should check extensions, what apps are hooking in, etc. since you've got some issues with your system then. I can leave Firefox open for weeks at a time without issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted March 3, 2014 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 3, 2014 Windows 8 Australis mockup. If Firefox's new look looks anything different, I will be quite disappointed. Australis would also be the perfect time for the Firefox team to cut out the legacy XP and Vista baggage from the code base. As a modern web user, I feel persecuted for having updated My OS to Windows 7 and Windows 8, while Firefox still clings and begs for Windows XP. It's time to cut XP loose, Mozilla. Microsoft did it, and it's made them better off. Australis Windows 8.png Source: http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/mockups-interactive/australis-interactive-mockups/windows8.html http://userstyles.org/styles/95258/firefox-metro-for-australis :) Dot Matrix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 http://userstyles.org/styles/95258/firefox-metro-for-australis :) Sweet, I'll have to download this once I get home. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Between Windows 8 support and this, I have to wonder just what they do day in and day out at Mozilla. Do they even show up for work half the time? Everything over there is either pushed back or delayed. none of the other browsers are fully multithreaded, google has started their work on the competitor to servo a few months after mozilla announced it. Samsung is also helping develop servo btw: http://betanews.com/2013/04/03/mozilla-and-samsung-team-up-to-kill-chrome-mobile/ Being able to use all cpu cores instead of 100% of 1 core will reduce power consumption as well as speed up browsing, samsung would love a browsing power advantage over iphone's safari. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Between Windows 8 support and this, I have to wonder just what they do day in and day out at Mozilla. Do they even show up for work half the time? Everything over there is either pushed back or delayed. Its 2014 and chrome still doesn't have fully working smooth scrolling on windows, this type of thing doesn't only happen with firefox :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 http://userstyles.org/styles/95258/firefox-metro-for-australis :) Finally, a proper Windows 8 look and feel for Firefox. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596291719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted March 4, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted March 4, 2014 That looks bad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596292261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 4, 2014 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fits in with Windows 8 then :laugh: snaphat (Myles Landwehr), Sub_Zero_Alchemist, torrentthief and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596292321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadishTM Veteran Posted March 4, 2014 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fits in with Windows 8 then :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596292325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasd- Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 When is Australis landing the release channel? 2 months? Already tested on Aurora and its cool, but i dont wanna use Aurora as default browser Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596297025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawz Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 When is Australis landing the release channel? 2 months? Already tested on Aurora and its cool, but i dont wanna use Aurora as default browser should findout next week when or if 29 Australis is landing in Beta when hey have there Merge etc meeting wasd- 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596297167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawz Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/candidates/28.0-candidates/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596305171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawz Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Aurora (29) Merging to Beta next Monday -- Australis, so far, is shipping afawk https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2014-03-12 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596307433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasd- Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Im the only who still uses back/home and on the left side? :D I saw that with Australis i can't configure it like i do now :/ derkim 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596309009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Have they ever fixed the issue where black boxes appear on mouse-hovered/highlighted elements? Im the only who still uses back/home and on the left side? :D No, I never liked home being moved away. :P Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596309013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Jared Wein wrote:Hi firefox-dev, I wanted to let you know that tomorrow's nightly build of Holly will be the last to receive updates. This also means that there will be no further security updates to the channel, and that staying on the channel past Friday, March 14 is not advised. Soon after, the Holly builds will be removed from the FTP servers. Thank you to those who contributed many hours of testing on Holly. Thanks, Jared Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596309097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bye Holly, hello Australis! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596309099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 people that dont like Australis, stick to 24 ESR builds Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596309105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted March 18, 2014 MVC Share Posted March 18, 2014 Firefox Nightly is now marked 31. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596316491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted March 18, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted March 18, 2014 First test builds of Firefox 29 beta 1 with Australis are also available. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596316605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 people that dont like Australis, stick to 24 ESR builds That's only a temporary solution as a) Australis will eventually land on ESR and b) there's rumors going around that Mozilla might drop ESR builds (which would be very a idiotic and shortsighted thing to do). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/138/#findComment-596316875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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