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[bawz]

Firefox in Linux land no longer depends on xulrunner bloatware http://www.fedora-blog.de/2014/01/firefox-sagt-auf-wiedersehen-zu-xulrunner/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=firefox-sagt-auf-wiedersehen-zu-xulrunner&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed&utm_content=Fedora-Blog.de&utm_term=Piwik

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Firefox on Linux is already 64bit (Same as OS X), Windows is the only OS that doesn't have an official 64bit build (Due to issues with building and testing it, and plugins, among other things)

[Boo Berry]

Firefox on Linux is already 64bit (Same as OS X), Windows is the only OS that doesn't have an official 64bit build (Due to issues with building and testing it, and plugins, among other things)

Yep, same with Chrome too I believe. I can't wait for an official 64-bit Firefox build - it might force some vendors to provide 64-bit binaries of plugins (I'm looking at you, EA/DICE/Battlelog).

[bawz]

Firefox on Linux is already 64bit (Same as OS X), Windows is the only OS that doesn't have an official 64bit build (Due to issues with building and testing it, and plugins, among other things)

hopefully in a year or 2 64bit Mozilla on Windows can be more widely used as a stable browser. it looks to me Redhat is or has Hinted that 64bit Arch an others are the way to go. no more 32bit Arch Support which should also cut costs i would assume.

[bawz]

ok i just installed Martin Stransky's FirefoxGTK3 build, a bit buggy but it works so far. . im assuming this is a Bug but it has the Black Default Theme ( which i think was a Private Browsing thing only ) ?   looks nice though

[bawz]

ok i just installed Martin Stransky's FirefoxGTK3 build, a bit buggy but it works so far. . im assuming this is a Bug but it has the Black Default Theme ( which i think was a Private Browsing thing only ) ?   looks nice though

its no Bug. the Theme is supposed to be Black ( testing it on Gnome3 now )

[bawz]

its no Bug. the Theme is supposed to be Black ( testing it on Gnome3 now )

AFAICT . the Black Theme when used on Firefox 29 plus gets it from the Gnome-tweak-tool when you enable the Dark Theme

 

dunno how there gonna do it on Windows

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The latest nightly (With some setting flipped) gets you this on https://tlsinfo.nails.eu.org/

Which means nothing in practise, since nobody is running HTTP/2 at this point, but it's still nice to see support in a browser.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Yeah, HTTP 2.0 draft 9 support landed. Exact Rooting (ground work for generational GC) also landed and will be in tomorrow's Nightly.

[bawz]

 

Firefox engineering management met today to make a decision on if Australis should uplift to Aurora on the 29 train, or wait one more cycle to ride the 30 train. On the balance of the arguments, the decision was made to uplift.

This means:

* After uplift next week[1], Australis will be on both the Nightly channel (aka Firefox 30) and the Aurora channel (aka Firefox 29).

* Significant development will continue over the next 6 weeks, as we burn down current Australis bugs as well as new issues found by the Aurora audience. These fixes will land on both Nightly and Aurora.

* Upon the following uplift (March 17th), we'll again make an evaluation on uplifting Australis to Beta or holding it back on Aurora for the Firefox 30 train. There is significant risk to backing out a large project from Beta, so the intent will be to ride a Beta to Release.

* We will, per previous plans, cease maintaining the backout-branch for Nightly ("Holly"), and will instead be maintaining a backout-branch for Aurora. We may (pending further discussion) drop this branch as well if/when it becomes obvious that we will be uplifting to Beta.

[1] - https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

Justin

Looks like a new 'survey' is coming once Australis lands on Aurora https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966020

[Kyang]

So how does one force an update of the thumbnails on the new tab page?  Some searching mentioned deleting some kind of cache, or emptying contents of some folder.  I don't seem to have said folder though.  Is there some kind of add on or other method I have to use?

[bawz]

So how does one force an update of the thumbnails on the new tab page?  Some searching mentioned deleting some kind of cache, or emptying contents of some folder.  I don't seem to have said folder though.  Is there some kind of add on or other method I have to use?

that i wouldnt know sorry. best to ask Zlip , he may know, shoot him a PM or try Google

[+Zlip792 MVC]

So how does one force an update of the thumbnails on the new tab page?  Some searching mentioned deleting some kind of cache, or emptying contents of some folder.  I don't seem to have said folder though.  Is there some kind of add on or other method I have to use?

 

Go to this particular folder and delete all or particular thumbnail and it will retrigger new after that:

C:\Users\RANDOM\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\RANDOM.default\thumbnails

Also Australis is confirmed to landed in Aurora 29 and Holly branch for Nightly will be gone while Aurora Holly branch might be maintained to see whether Australis can be shipped in Beta or Release channel or not.

-- New Sync landed more like Chrome one and is now enabled in Firefox Nightly branch. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964922

-- Motion JPEG support also landed in m-i (mozilla inbound): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963907

[+Zlip792 MVC]

-- Cache2 will be enabled now temporarily on mozilla-central (simply Nightly) for few days. Many stuff has been fixed and I think preferences work now. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967693

 

I don't know why Firefox dev are focusing on UI Tour thingy, every single child knows how to use browsers... I think Australis is super complex that's why..

 

Holly branch for Nightly backout has been now dropped and is now maintain Aurora train for backout to see stability and bug fixes till its ready for release/beta.

 

Menu padding adjustment (Australis) - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=961727

 

Also project branch "maple" has been now for Generational Garbage Collection testing, you can track changelog from here:

http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/maple/shortlog

[bawz]

im a bit 50/50 i dunno why they didnt just Backout Australis from 29 an go with a Normal Branch till they had/have all of it fixed in Fx30  which makes more sense to me than making a decision at the last minute to pull it from Beta or not.

[grayscale]

Thanks!

Userstyle is up now but not stable yet, I have an upgrade to push but I'll have to wait

 

What do I need to change so that when I drag the very top of the tabs, it will drag the tab and not the whole window. It does not behave like that (Opera-like) before and I'm not sure if it's something from my old stylish. Thanks in advance! :)

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

What do I need to change so that when I drag the very top of the tabs, it will drag the tab and not the whole window. It does not behave like that (Opera-like) before and I'm not sure if it's something from my old stylish. Thanks in advance! :)

 

Try changing the first rule from

#TabsToolbar {
    background: transparent !important;
    margin-bottom: 0 !important;
}

to

#TabsToolbar {
    background: transparent !important;
    margin-bottom: 0 !important;
    margin-top: -1px !important;
}

It should do the job!

[grayscale]

Try changing the first rule from

#TabsToolbar {
    background: transparent !important;
    margin-bottom: 0 !important;
}

to

#TabsToolbar {
    background: transparent !important;
    margin-bottom: 0 !important;
    margin-top: -1px !important;
}

It should do the job!

Great! Thanks!

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Mozilla developers enabled cache 2 (new cache backend) temporarily in Nightly channel. People who wants to turn it off..

 

1. Go to "about:config"

2. Toggle " browser.cache.use_new_backend_temp" to False.

 

Reasons for turning off for people:

1. No cache eviction patch landed which means it will grow large without any limit. (CCleaner can clean it though from new path)

2. about:memory does not report it and if you check it frequently, it will make you feel frightened because of too large heap-unclassified.

 

New cache has been worked on GUM project branch. Here is shortlog link of it: http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/gum/shortlog

 

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Landings on mozilla-inbound

[E10S] Gesture bug - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863514

[CSS] Implement overflow-clip-box: content-box and their dependents - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966992 ; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965237

[MemShrink] Share self hosted states between runtimes - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964057

[ViperAFK]

I really like shorlanders mockup of Australis on win 8, so i tried to write some css to make my nightly like it. It's still a work in progress but you can grab it if you want

 

http://userstyles.org/styles/95258/firefox-metro-for-australis?r=1384902847

 

It has squared tabs as i don't like rounded ones :D

 

1.png

2.png

Just upgraded to aurora/australis and am using this stylish script, looks very nice in windows 8 :)

[bawz]

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/28.0b6/ Firefox 28 B6 RC Available  https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Release_Tracking#Almost_Definitely_in_Firefox_28

 

for those people that HATE AUSTRALIS why dont you stick to 24ESR  ? or move back to IE

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Just upgraded to aurora/australis and am using this stylish script, looks very nice in windows 8 :)

thanks!

[+Zlip792 MVC]

for those people that HATE AUSTRALIS why dont you stick to 24ESR  ? or move back to IE

 

I agree, as I only use Firefox now when my Chromium goes bad and IE11 not work.

[NCC-1664]

My issue with australis is that it requires the mod community to update thier addons since they are removing the addon bar.  There are certain addons that directly place features on to the addon bar that I do not have access to under australis.  Namely "Default Fullzoom" addon in which the zoom percentage menu is inaccessible.  "Color that site!" features are not accessable as well.  Why Mozilla doesn't just add to the customize toolbar area those things automatically makes no sense.  It's kinda hard to test australis if addon support is so broken like this.  So yeah, it's very easy to hate australis because now we got to wait for all the addons to support australis IF THEY WANT TO AT ALL.  They'll probably be like "oh I don't have time, too busy at work, lost my job, oh dear this is too hard, I don't support this addon anymore" blah blah blah.  What's worse is if they don't update, and you are searching for an addon and try it out unaware certain features are missing.  This is a big update and I'm not sure everyone's affected is going to update their addons before release.  Shouldn't they be updating thier addons RIGHT NOW to get addon toolbar stuff away from there at least so people have access to it?  I don't know, I'm in a bit of a panic about this whole update.  I tested this thing out recently and it was a disaster.  I do not want to go through another waiting period for my addon's to get updated.

 

Honestly, why can't they depreciate the addon bar for a year before removing it.  Give the mod makers more time to transition their work to the new layout.  Why does it HAVE to be removed in release 29?

 

Okay two quickie side things.  I would love for my options & downloads sections as tabs instead of pop-up windows.  I hate pop-up windows and would love to see this transition to a nice clean tab layout.  Thanks. :)

[bawz]

I agree, as I only use Firefox now when my Chromium goes bad and IE11 not work.

i aint been using Chrome for awhile now, its been unusable for awhile so i removed the package.

 

i can understand why Australis dont look great in any Windoows Envirement but on Linux an MacOSX it looks good. but there's no point whinging about it. its the way of the future. i see Loudnoise has stuck with the ESR, which is funny how these whinging people still use the Australis builds ( Nightly or Aurora ) . .

 

Okay two quickie side things.  I would love for my options & downloads sections as tabs instead of pop-up windows.  I hate pop-up windows and would love to see this transition to a nice clean tab layout.  Thanks. :)

it would be so much easier if it was in a TAB rather than a pop-up