Opera named PC World best browser or not?

[xpgeek]

opera lies about being named pc world best browser

Opera Software seems to have decided that it's easier lie that to win. Here's the chain of events as best as I can tell.

PC World announced their 100 Best Products of 2005.

Firefox not only won the coveted Product of the Year award, sweeping all 99 other products in the list, but it beat out two other browsers, Maxthon at number 12 and Opera way down at number 88.

Opera puts out a press release claiming "A Winning Streak: Opera once again wins PC World's World Class Award for best Web browser". Opera.com then places this same thing on their front page (see the third checkbox with the claim that they've won best browser in '05.)

Conclusion: Opera is simply lying. They were one of 100 products to be labeled as "World Class" but they did not win any "best Web browser" anything. They were last in the ranking of three web browsers. They got beat by both Maxthon and Firefox.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/008289.html

It clearly says received best browser award in 05 on the Opera homepage. If its a mistake on their part its a pretty big, and stupid, one. If its deliberate, then shame on them. I'm a Firefox user but still respected Opera as a browser and a company.

[L3thal Veteran]

Interesting :s

[xpgeek]

[xpgeek]

It clearly says "Best Browser" on the Opera homepage, which it clearly did not win.

[Fit4130Rider]

There was a seperate "web browser award," and it won. You're talking about the "Best product award."

You, and that source, are << removed >>.

Edited June 8, 2005 by markjensen

[xpgeek]

Ok, where on PCworld.com do you see this separate web browser award, I can't find it.

[Fit4130Rider]

YES IT DID.

Firefox won the best product.

[Bling3k12]

There was a seperate "web browser award," and it won.  You're talking about the "Best product award."

You, and that source, are << removed >>.

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You have a link or anything? Not saying you're wrong, but I don't subscribe to PC World and I don't wanna buy it to check it out. I see that they won in 2004, it's right here but I can't find anything for '05 yet.

Edited June 8, 2005 by markjensen

[Fit4130Rider]

Heres an overclockers.com article.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/?read=1779842

I don't think they've put the other "best of" on their site.

[em_te]

Edit: It does seem like Opera indeed didn't win it.

By the way, here's a picture of Asa:

Edited June 8, 2005 by em_te

[Fit4130Rider]

Also, heres the neowin news that made frontpage.

https://www.neowin.net/comments.php?category=main&id=28726

[xpgeek]

Best of 2005

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,a...763,pg,1,00.asp

Still can't find this separate web browser award you say it won.

[lav-chan]

Opera can do no wrong as long as they have the Black Ranger on their Web site.

MASTADON

[xpgeek]

Also, heres the neowin news that made frontpage.

https://www.neowin.net/comments.php?category=main&id=28726

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All 100 products on that list recieved the PC World's World Class 2005 award. That still doesn't show me where they won best browser.

[Kr0z]

I don't really care for Opera, and sure they lied. I guess they did it to get a few thousand more subscriptions to their software.

I never believed opera was the best. *grin*

[neoufo51]

LYING SCUM :x

GO FIREFOX :yes:

:p

[Kaska]

A few weeks ago when this came out, I saw that opera had won, on all the major news sites even on neowin's front page, but nothing about firefox. It struck me as odd, because I read through the article and didn't see anything about opera. Firefox was at the top.

[jimbo11883]

Yea, the black power ranger is really ghey. So ghey that the ranger alone stopped me from switching. I'll stick with IE.

[Acezo]

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,a...763,pg,6,00.asp

This year rather than listing "best so and so, best this, best that", they have them under categories.

The 100 Best Products of 2005

Web

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INSTANT MESSENGER (Free) A universal client, Trillian works with AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, and other IM networks. Version 3 adds audio and video chat, plus links to the Wikipedia online encyclopedia. Review | Download

Flickr.com Flickr.com

PHOTOGRAPHY SITE (Free) Post snapshots or rummage through other people's collections. Review

Google

SEARCH ENGINE (Free) The king of search continues to introduce important innovations--such as Google Maps, Google Answers, and Google Scholar--while maintaining a clean interface. Review

Google Gmail Google Gmail

WEB MAIL (Free) Fast, simple, and with 2GB of storage, it has the elements of a paid service, delivering messages sans pesky graphical ads. Review

Internet Archive (Archive.org)

WEB SITE (Free) Who says you can't fit the entire Web under one domain? Well, maybe not the whole Web, but enough of it to keep any browser busy for a couple of lifetimes. Review

Mozilla Thunderbird

E-MAIL PROGRAM (Free) This client gives you useful features such as fast search capability and an RSS reader. It's great at blocking spam, too. Review | Download

Mysoft Technology Maxthon

BROWSER PLUG-IN (Free) Add oomph to Internet Explorer: Jump between pages in a tabbed interface, block ads, and pick from 300 skins. Review | Download

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OnlyMyEmail Pro OnlyMyEmail Pro

SPAM FILTER ($3 a month) Service filters spam from up to three e-mail accounts. In our tests it caught more than 99 percent of unsolicited mail. Review

Opera 8

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Skype Skype

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Vonage

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Wikipedia

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They didn't lie, people just don't check their facts before posting crap like that

Edited June 8, 2005 by Acezo

[msing]

Does it matter if they lied? Opera is still a stable product. I mean how does claiming that their browser being named pc world's best browser make the product any better?

[xpgeek]

Opera is listed on page 6, the Web catagory, and Firefox is not because Firefox is in its OWN catagory of Product of the Year. And Firefox is still listed as number 1 on the 1 to 100 list and Opera is still number 88, so how did it win best browser.

[lav-chan]

Well, i'm an Opera fan, so maybe i'm biassed, but i think this is pretty logical thinking: If Opera really lied about it, why didn't PC World call them on it? Opera announced in a global press release almost a week ago that they won the World Class Award. If it was a lie, why didn't somebody say something? Why would everybody be like, whatever, who cares, and wait for some Firefox guy to break the 'story'? Moreover, why would Opera go and release that global press release (and update the front page of their Web site to match) if it was a lie? I find it hard to believe that they would make such a huge deal out of it and expect nobody to ever find out about it.

But... i don't follow awards. I honestly couldn't care less what some random magazine thinks of the software i use (or don't use), so it doesn't really matter to me either way. I'm not so pro-Opera that i would never ever suspect that they could do something like this, but i don't see why they would, and even if they did i don't see why nobody picked up on it earlier.

[MEMO.INC]

they didn't lie, Opera won the best browser award from that magazine. The thing is, the importance of that award is heavily questionable since a competing browser won the best product.

I have tried both, bot are great, but I prefer FF because it's open source.

[Gnome]

I like Opera, better than Firefox in some respects, but I think that this might be just a case where they overstated the meaning of their "award" to make themselves sound special.

I think "lying" isn't quite accurate. Maybe just a little exaggeration.

Edited June 8, 2005 by Gnome

[Fotix]

Opera was named best browser, alright, after Firefox.

1. Mozilla Firefox Web Browser

...

88. Opera 8 Web Browser

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,a...63,pg,12,00.asp

It's still good software, but I have not seen where PC World said it's better than Firefox anywhere. Anyone got anything?

Edited June 8, 2005 by Fotix