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shakey, on 08 February 2013 - 16:45, said:

Dude, you are a troll. Ya, never said accountants had a dangerous job. I did list the ones that are more dangerous than a cops. Who cares what a family thinks. I go by what the real world is based off of. Statistics show that being an officer isn't as deadly as many other jobs. It's just people think it is due to all the TV they watch. Some area's might be bad, but over all, it isn't. I don't look at just 1 part of the puzzle though to get my ideas. I look at what is called ALL the puzzle.

I never said you did. Those are my words. Keep up the name calling. I posted a source that that shows that Police Officers are in the top 10.

[BoredBozirini]

The solution is easy, give cops more guns.

[shakey]

Gary7, on 08 February 2013 - 16:47, said:

I never said you did. Those are my words. Keep up the name calling. I posted a source that that shows that Police Officers are in the top 10.

Yup, 18 compared to 19 is more..... Police make either 11th or 12th, but are not among the top 10.

[FunkyMike]

shakey, on 08 February 2013 - 16:32, said:

Your first link goes to the 2nd link

It's a sad reality that this is something that is needed at the moment. Unless some brave high ranking government figure steps in and somehow starts a war on the corruption of our police force and the others that are a part of it, the only other way is through vigilantism. Talking to them or going through the courts won't do anything. We've seen it plenty of times already. The cops usually just get suspended with pay, and no one learns their lesson, except for the civiilizan; and that lesson is that you can't fight the law with the law and expect to win.
Until cops are held to a higher standard, and are punished to an extreme way that makes all other officers fall into line, corruption will always be rampant. If they know they can get away with it, those in power will do what ever they can do.
Most US citizens never took an oath to follow and obey the law. We just try to do the best we can. Those who have taken the oath though, such as government officials and police officers, should be held in an even higher degree of accountability for when they break it. Instead, it is the opposite, and they get away with breaking the law, while citizens get the worst of it.

Yup it is a shame that it leads to such actions like in this case. It would be unrealistic to think that this can just be cleared up. I read somewhere that they also closed the air traffic to news crews: http://latimesblogs....-to-leave-.html

What you said also applies to other countries. In Europe some countries like the UK have been slacking lately like in the Murdoch case, and it is only the lower tier people that get the stick for it.

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BoredBozirini, on 08 February 2013 - 16:51, said:

The solution is easy, give cops more guns.

The solution is better training and better background checking and psych testing.

shakey, on 08 February 2013 - 16:52, said:

Yup, 18 compared to 19 is more..... Police make either 11th or 12th, but are not among the top 10.

http://www.smartplan...n-america/11396

Here is the full list of work-related deaths in 2011 (per 100,000 workers):

Fisherman (121.2)
Loggers (102.4)
Pilots (57.0)
Farmers and Ranchers (25.3)
Police Officers (18.6)
Construction Workers (15.7)
National Average (3.5)
Firefighters (2.5)
Cashiers (1.6)
Office Admin (0.6)
Business and Finance Staff (0.5)


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shakey, on 08 February 2013 - 16:52, said:

Yup, 18 compared to 19 is more..... Police make either 11th or 12th, but are not among the top 10.

Wrong/

[shakey]

Gary7, on 08 February 2013 - 16:55, said:

The solution is better training and better background checking and psych testing.



http://www.smartplan...n-america/11396

Here is the full list of work-related deaths in 2011 (per 100,000 workers):

Fisherman (121.2)
Loggers (102.4)
Pilots (57.0)
Farmers and Ranchers (25.3)
Police Officers (18.6)
Construction Workers (15.7)
National Average (3.5)
Firefighters (2.5)
Cashiers (1.6)
Office Admin (0.6)
Business and Finance Staff (0.5)


Number 5

Again, you are not too bright. That isn't the top 10 most dangerous jobs. National Average isn't even a job! They are just listing what jobs have had some deaths right there. Go look at an actual 10 Most Deadliest Jobs list. It doesn't list police.
Here is the actual list that you need to look at, PAGE 5. http://www.bls.gov/n...se/pdf/cfoi.pdf
This is the document that your link got it's information from. If you bothered to fully understand it, you will see that what you posted, is in fact, not the top dangerous jobs. PAGE 5 of that link does show what they are though.
Here is a pic of the page.

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The national average of work related deaths is 3.5 per 100,000 workers. Policemen are almost 5 times that number.

[linsook]

Gary7, on 08 February 2013 - 17:06, said:

The national average of work related deaths is 3.5 per 100,000 workers. Policemen are almost 5 times that number.

How does that make them #5?

[shakey]

linsook, on 08 February 2013 - 17:12, said:

How does that make them #5?

It doesn't. He is trolling despite the fact that I have proven him wrong. He does this often when presented with evidence that counters what he "thinks". Rather annoying because discussion can't move forward.

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linsook, on 08 February 2013 - 17:12, said:

How does that make them #5?

http://www.smartplan...n-america/11396

On this source it does according to work related deaths per 100,000 workers. I, like I said am an ex cop and until you put on a uniform and place your life on the line every day you go to work, you can post all the stats you want. On the net one can find a source to back up just about anything. I wore the uniform and know the stress that is related to that Job. The OP is not about what number on a list a Cop's job is but about an officer that apparently cracked. All I said was that it could have been related to stress. Being a Marine or serviceman is not on that list either but do not try and tell me that a Marine's job is mot dangerous.

[FunkyMike]

Those two Asian ladies that were driving a similar truck were shot up from behind without visual confirmation .. quite gruesome.

http://i.imgur.com/dHkZjQx.jpg

I hear this is one of 2 cases where the police just started shooting at a similar truck.

[linsook]

Gary7, on 08 February 2013 - 17:21, said:

http://www.smartplan...n-america/11396

On this source it does according to work related deaths per 100,000 workers. I, like I said am an ex cop and until you put on a uniform and place your life on the line every day you go to work, you can post all the stats you want. On the net one can find a source to back up just about anything. I wore the uniform and know the stress that is related to that Job. The OP is not about what number on a list a Cop's job is but about an officer that apparently cracked. All I said was that it could have been related to stress. Being a Marine or serviceman is not on that list either but do not try and tell me that a Marine's job is mot dangerous.

That source links to another source that everyone else has been looking at that says otherwise.

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linsook, on 08 February 2013 - 17:30, said:

That source links to another source that everyone else has been looking at that says otherwise.

It does not mater, as it is OT. I know first hand how much stress is involved with being a Police Officer. I don't care what stats say about how dangerous the job is. Unless you are/were a cop in a large city you have no idea. That was my only point that I was trying to make. That it could have been due to stress. Sort of PTSD. It does happen to Police as well as the Military. One reason that Major Departments have Psychologists on staff to help Police Officers. Now then, I am finish discsuiing what place in someone stats a policemen belongs. I will only post to the OP, I wish everyone would do the same.

[COKid]

Maybe it's just me, but he looks so much like LL Cool J it's spooky.

[FunkyMike]

Lol COKid .. he does look like the cupcake LL version ;D

If David Ayer makes a new movie about corrupt cops in LA ...

Edit .. he already made a movie with Samuel L Jackson and LL called S.W.A.T