Blair Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 http://www.tomcoyote.org/tech/vista-upgrad...your-xp-key/74/ If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation. From Vista?s EULA found here (PDF) : 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligiblefor the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from. For many people this may not be a problem, but it?s a change from earlier versions of Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 That isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 damn :/ Glad I'm going OEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagamer34 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hmm.. that's odd. That means that you won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version if you think Vista is crap and want to move back to XP until Vista SP1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manksgloob Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 And just for clarification, this is referring to all/any earlier versions of Windows (XP/2000) and not just the other flavors of Vista (via Anytime Upgrade), right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 That's bull****! Since they aren't allowing clean upgrade installs what will happen if you need to format? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code.Red Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 :| Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manksgloob Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 That's bull****! Since they aren't allowing clean upgrade installs what will happen if you need to format? Oh yeah, that's right huh? Something's fishy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1369 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 WHAT?!?! Cmon...thats gotta be a joke. What if you don't like Vista, and you want to return to XP? Also what if you have to reformat due to a virus or some serious error? God...this is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinCain Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 That's BS. As long as you have a VALID XP install key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Thats ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaKeY Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 This is BS. Upgrading or dual-booting doesn't invalidate your keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterC Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well that's a dumb move on their part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 First I thought just like you guys that it's BS. But after reading thru the whol EULA agreement, Once you activate your XP and then upgrade to Vista and then activate you Visat (This will deactivate your XP key). If you have any problem with vista you have to format the HDD, then there might be two scenarios a. Install XP and upgrade or b. just install from booting thru DVD ( I know there's some talk about the upgrade can't be bootable I need a comformation on that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 This is one reason i am staying to XP, my job is enough stress in my life apart from microsoft playing mind games with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoKiller Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 LOL, I could care less, I have 2 Windows XP Home Edition CD-Keys. One that came with my system (at the bottom of my laptop) and one that is automatically put in by the installation when it detects that my laptop is a Dell. Heh, I am still going OEM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 just wont beable to activate your xp.. doesnt stop you from installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinCain Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 ****ing STUPID!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSniper Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I highly doubt that's what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I highly doubt that's what it means. What does it mean then? If you doubt it, then what do you think it means? IF you don't know, then you're in denial. If you truly doubt it, then tell us what you understand of this restriction? That license says exactly what they've quoted and I haven't found anywhere in that EULA that could contradict that upgrade statement. In other words, they know that Vista ain't as hot as they wanted it to be, so they add these _huge_ restrictions, like DX10 only on Vista and now this upgrade nonsense shananigans that forces users to use Vista. Aren't these clues to people that could indicate that this operating system isn't quite ready for primetime. Sure, it may run better than XP for you and it may do some neat things that you think is worth the upgrade, but **** man, I haven't seen this sort of **** anywhere else. Nowhere have I seen software upgrades rendering older versions obsolete, nowhere. There has to be a loophole somewhere in XP's EULA that forbids such things, even if its from themselves at MSFT. This is just absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1369 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What does it mean then? If you doubt it, then what do you think it means? IF you don't know, then you're in denial. If you truly doubt it, then tell us what you understand of this restriction? That license says exactly what they've quoted and I haven't found anywhere in that EULA that could contradict that upgrade statement. In other words, they know that Vista ain't as hot as they wanted it to be, so they add these _huge_ restrictions, like DX10 only on Vista and now this upgrade nonsense shananigans that forces users to use Vista. Aren't these clues to people that could indicate that this operating system isn't quite ready for primetime. Sure, it may run better than XP for you and it may do some neat things that you think is worth the upgrade, but **** man, I haven't seen this sort of **** anywhere else. Nowhere have I seen software upgrades rendering older versions obsolete, nowhere. There has to be a loophole somewhere in XP's EULA that forbids such things, even if its from themselves at MSFT. This is just absurd. You're so right! I really despise Microsoft's "my way, or the highway" attitude with Vista... XP was easy, simple, and "just works." Vista is just a bloated piece of crap, honestly. I beta tested Vista...and guess what? I don't even have Vista installed. I don't feel proud of it at all. Blast me as a lousy beta tester all you want, but trust me, Vista is NOT going to last long. This practice really ****es me off... it really does. What the heck is wrong with Microsoft? What if you don't like Vista? What if you want to go back to XP? What if you need to reformat? Then how can you activate, AND then install Vista, if the key is valid? Nothing makes sense with Vista, honestly. NOTHING. It's been one big frustration. I say, BOYCOTT VISTA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Folks at Microsoft must really be dumb. They put so much effort into stopping piracy, yet this is exactly the kind of thing that makes me want to pirate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 this make me feel like seting up a fund and the one who can provide all of the below would win the Cash from the fund. 1.) Keygen that will work for ALL ver of Vista 2.) file that reads Microsoft Installs and if it find that an update stops the crack it will NOT install 3.) setup a clone Vista Update site that mimics a Vaild Copy of Vista then takes you to the real updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loc[a]lhost Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Actually, I can understand this decision. an Upgrade license allows you to upgrade your OS to Vista. Using such license, you shouldn't be able to upgrade one computer to Vista, and use the other XP license for another computer. However, there should be a way to reclaim the XP license if the user decides he doesn't want Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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