Ryoken Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 When I said sent back, I was referring to people entering a country that isn't their own.. Of course someone from that country would just be arrested.. And you're right, I was speaking is more of a general idea where in most nations you don't get protected by all of their laws until you are allowed in. And even in Canada, as you said, your rights are diminished.. Things like the right to privacy really don't exist, as they can strip you down looking for anything illicit based just on suspicion, with no evidence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 When I said sent back, I was referring to people entering a country that isn't their own.. Of course someone from that country would just be arrested.. And you're right, I was speaking is more of a general idea where in most nations you don't get protected by all of their laws until you are allowed in. And even in Canada, as you said, your rights are diminished.. Things like the right to privacy really don't exist, as they can strip you down looking for anything illicit based just on suspicion, with no evidence.. Yea I understood the point you were making and agree, just wanted to clarify some details :) By the way, they do need to meet a higher standard if they want to do strip searches. I don't quite remember off the top of my head exactly what standard that is (suspicion or belief), but it's not a trivial one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Never had electronic devices searched before when flying anywhere, actually I haven't heard of anyone searching those before. Is it Canada only? the thing that matters is depiction of "children", not necessarily the specific artistic style it takes. you can have legal OR illegal manga, hentai, anime depending on the subject matter Yes, in the context of depicting children and teens. There are many non-erotic manga and anime which depicts characters nude/quasi-nude (ex. taking a bath). I am talking here about mainstream (PG to R) anime and manga. EX: Shin-Chan, Elfen Lied, K-ON!, Ga-Rei-Zero Additionally there are shows involving some minor level of sexual content, EX: Seitokai Yakuindomo In US the above are fully legal. Is such stuff at any risk in Canada? What about borderline hentai, i.e. quasi-erotica? EDIT: Please stop talking about milk. Edited June 30, 2011 by Udedenkz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Never had electronic devices searched before when flying anywhere, actually I haven't heard of anyone searching those before. Is it Canada only? As far as I'm aware this is pretty standard border practice, I know for a fact that both Canada and US borders do this. It's comparatively rare that you'll run across one of these checks though since nobody seems to do this routinely (it's either a targeted search based on your history, or sometimes they just pulled you out at random). Yes, in the context of depicting children and teens. There are many non-erotic manga and anime which depicts characters nude/quasi-nude (ex. taking a bath). I am talking here about mainstream (PG to R) anime and manga. EX: Shin-Chan, Elfen Lied, K-ON!, Ga-Rei-Zero Additionally there are shows involving some minor level of sexual content, EX: Seitokai Yakuindomo In US the above are fully legal. Is such stuff at any risk in Canada? What about borderline hentai, i.e. quasi-erotica? EDIT: Please stop talking about milk. well it has to be explicit sexual activity or depictions of sexual/anal regions for sexual purpose. Baby-in-a-bath family photos will not, for example, be caught under this definition. It would be rather inconsistent to say that a drawing of such a photo would be considered child porn, so I would say that your first category (mainstream non-erotic) would very unlikely fall under this definition. As to your other examples, I'm not very familiar with what they entail, and there's no case law on similar things in any case so your guess would be as good as mine. There is a "legitimate purpose" defence that says if the child porn serves a legit purpose like administration of justice, science, medicine, or art and it doesn't really harm children, then it's okay. I would note however that previous cases where people brought child porn comics across the border didn't manage very favourable results, possibly because their materials clearly fell within the "bad bad bad" category (I wouldn't know, since I don't know exactly what happened). In any case, border personnel aren't properly trained to make these kinds of fine assessments on the spot anyways (it takes courts and trials to do that), and if they get it wrong, it's almost certainly not in your favour, so it's always advisable to be extra-cautious when crossing borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 in the U.S.A, how the heck does milk come in bags? That's very weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Go look up furry some time...Yiff in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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