If you hate Windows 8, will you switch ?



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Tried Windows 8 right away on a spare computer at work the other day, like I do with every beta/rc/preview/whatever. It was the first new Windows I didn't like. I installed XP, Vista, and 7 for daily use in beta form. But this time I'm staying with 7.

As for my Mac, I'm staying on 10.7 until the official release of 10.8. I don't want to have to reinstall everything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Windows 8 or any versions before that.

But I believe there will be a lot of "upgrading/downgrading" back to Windows 7 when the OS is put on all new machines and the masses get to use it..

Like what happened with Vista being "upgraded/downgraded" to Windows XP. Remember that?

the poll needs OS X Mountain Lion

As of right now i'm using Mountain Lion as my primary OS and Windows 7 as my Bootcamp Partition for my gaming needs. I have tried the consumer preview and it's a mess, it would be better if MS added gestures like OS X for laptop users to make things easier.

The CP itself is quite stable and does what it's supposed to do outside of that metro stuff but warning to users that need .Net 3.5 it won't install, in conclusion i would in fact use Win 8 if they give an option to disable Metro if not i'm staying with 7.

If I hate it I'll stick with Windows 7. If people start moving to Win8-only immersive/metro apps I'll switch to OSX (unless in future versions Apple restrict apps to only the Mac App store, in which case I'll switch to Linux). :p

The only thing keeping me on Windows at the moment is .NET development, and my reluctance to pay Apples excessive prices.

Mean switch to apple where there going to come out with a "new" OS X every year and axe / radical change features as they see fit as iOS and OS X are merged?

If someone doesn't like windows 8, they will probably try to linger to Windows XP / Vista / 7 (what they were at before) if given the option.

For me the jury still out on windows 8 the constant "flipping" between metro and desktop bother me a bit though.

I still like XP, and dual boot for some older games that don't like Vista/7, but mostly in Win7 majority of the time.

The only feature I do miss from Vista is in the Game Explorer where you can create custom shortcuts and choose them by right clicking and the animated network status indicator (I have 3rd party that restores that).

For GuildWars I could do an "update" menu gw.exe -image, or switch screenshots back to bmp format gw.exe -bmp and not have to make a short cut for each one.

Here's a thought... if Apple has OS X on a table will they axe boot camp if using Windows 8 on tablet with touch interface competing with iOS.

Main OS is XP, was dual booting with Linux Mint, but rarely used that.

Installed Win8, and it is working fine. Not having used Vista and Win7, I have never gotten used to any improvements they had over XP, so all on Win8 is new to me. So far, everything is going good.

Will I upgrade to Win8? Maybe, depends on pricing and what spare cash I have, or if I need a full PC upgrade by which time Win8 will probably be out).

I will give it a try, but the desktop/start menu thing confuses me a lot, and takes a lot of my precious time. Not sure why they chosed to make the start screen like that, it's not like I'm going to stare at it all day, I need a multi tasking desktop, not openin' a f***ing application at a time, and see one at a time, seriously guys... I see this operating system good for some people, but definetly for most of us, no.

Ofc. some of you will say "Hey, you still have the old desktop there", but hey, I want the old start menu too! -,-

I just can't wait for so many people to switch to Windows 8, somehow get switched to the new file system, have some data corruption and there be ZERO tools on the market to do data recovery.

I won't be switching.

I won't be supporting a single client on it except to help them remove it and go back to Windows 7 or XP.

I just can't wait for so many people to switch to Windows 8, somehow get switched to the new file system, have some data corruption and there be ZERO tools on the market to do data recovery.

I won't be switching.

I won't be supporting a single client on it except to help them remove it and go back to Windows 7 or XP.

Then if your client wants to upgrade to Win 8? Are you going to tell him to find someone else to support him? Thank god I'm not your client, I'd be fuming if my IT support company / guy said that!

I just can't wait for so many people to switch to Windows 8, somehow get switched to the new file system, have some data corruption and there be ZERO tools on the market to do data recovery.

I won't be switching.

I won't be supporting a single client on it except to help them remove it and go back to Windows 7 or XP.

The Windows 8 non-server editions don't support the new file system, so there's little chance of that happening., Though as far as I'm aware, ReFS is meant to handle cleaning up data corruption itself and maintaining it's own data integrity, though how that works in practice remains to be seen.

Then if your client wants to upgrade to Win 8?

Maybe you lack experience in enterprise, but companies don't just upgrade to the latest Windows version. Actually there are far more important factors to them - e.g. time to market, compability, legacy support (e.g. including/linking some old FORTRAN library into a new application as it implements critical algorithms that are that complex that no sane person would touch them ever again?)

No.

Anyone switching to something they hate is... Well... Stupid.

I am hopefully switching back to OS X myself.

Had a MacBook Pro at my previous employeer and I loved it.

Just changed job and got a Lenovo W520, and I hate it. I don't hate Windows, I just hate all the crap that comes along with using it.

All the small quirks and bugs and annoyances. Especially the frigging file permission problems and the open file bugs. Suddenly I can modify and save files in my downloads folder, suddenly I can't. Suddenly I can't delete files, and then I can, and then Spotify refuses to update itself and I have to do that manually... All these small but very annoying things was non-existant in OS X Snow Leopard/Lion compared to Windows 7.

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