Recommended Posts

Dont like this. would like to install one and not just think "its ok windows has sorted it"

Why? A lot of people would have just installed Microsoft Security Essentials anyway - who's same antimalware engine is now part of Windows Defender

Why? A lot of people would have just installed Microsoft Security Essentials anyway - who's same antimalware engine is now part of Windows Defender

Cause i like to control my computer and make sure that everything is doing it job. even doe i had to install it and update it, i liked this. Also i like to have the icon on the system tray.

Has anyone found a proper working antivirus for Release Preview?

And what about Windows Defender/Microsoft Security Essentials/Forefront Client Security (three different names for the same core program)? What about it is *improper*?

MSE is what a lot of Windows 7 users use (and I used it myself on 7). Forefront is used in business (from SMB to the enterprise).

Windows Defender is thus a LOT less *beta* than you think.

Of course, you COULD always run one of the Norton 2012 betas (currently, I know of nobody else even remotely ready for Windows 8).

MSE doesn't perform as well as many third-party anti-virus suites and as it is built into Winodws 8 there is no doubt that it will be more heavily targeted by exploits. The biggest problem with the alternatives is that they are simply too expensive. I went to renew my NOD32 licence and the price has jumped considerably and when I read some recent reviews it seems that NOD32 is nowhere near as good as it used to be - in fact it ranked quite poorly.

MSE is just as good as any other free anti-virus.

Is it going to be as good as a paid one? Not if it's Avira or Kaspersky - but then again, the added protection you get is hardly worth the increasing cost of AV programs.

You can have the best AV program in the world and still easily be infected.

Cause i like to control my computer and make sure that everything is doing it job. even doe i had to install it and update it, i liked this. Also i like to have the icon on the system tray.

WTF! This is a bit extreme isn't it? You will see an icon if there is a problem otherwise it won't. That's the beauty of MSE, it won't bugg you for "I am updating" or "Oh I am running here just so that you know" that most other AVs do.

MSE doesn't perform as well as many third-party anti-virus suites and as it is built into Winodws 8 there is no doubt that it will be more heavily targeted by exploits. The biggest problem with the alternatives is that they are simply too expensive. I went to renew my NOD32 licence and the price has jumped considerably and when I read some recent reviews it seems that NOD32 is nowhere near as good as it used to be - in fact it ranked quite poorly.

what are you folks doing on your computers that makes you feel "MSE doesn't perform well"? :/

  • Like 2

I find it a bit funny how because MSE/WD being part of windows now somehow makes it more of a target to exploits when, afaik, nothing got turned into swiss cheese more than Nortans poor excuse for a AV suit. And didn't the source code for one of the other ones leak on the net a few months ago?

WTF! This is a bit extreme isn't it? You will see an icon if there is a problem otherwise it won't. That's the beauty of MSE, it won't bugg you for "I am updating" or "Oh I am running here just so that you know" that most other AVs do.

Personal choice. Also i looked at the AV threw the Action Center and found it 45 days out of date. i have to manual update, (after a fresh install) is the normal or should AV updating automatic.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • If they ever come out and say the AI is no longer accessible to the gen pop people aren't going to know how to tie their own shoelaces.
    • It's hard not to when they are shoehorning Ai into EVERYTHING. Some are active users by choice, I bet a lot of them are because it's shoved in their face the entire time.
    • Thunderbird 152.0 by Razvan Serea Thunderbird is a free, open-source, cross-platform application for managing email and news feeds. It is a local (rather than a web-based) email application that is powerful yet easy-to-use. Thunderbird is clean and elegant by default, but easily customizable to match your workflow and visual preferences. It is loaded with unique and powerful features. Thunderbird is developed, tested, translated and supported by the folks at Mozilla Corporation and by a group of dedicated volunteers. Thunderbird gives you control and ownership over your email. There are lots of add-ons available for Thunderbird that enable you to extend and customize your email experience. Thunderbird gives you IMAP/POP support, a built-in RSS reader, support for HTML mail, powerful quick search, saved search folders, advanced message filtering, message grouping, labels, return receipts, smart address book LDAP address completion, import tools, and the ability to manage multiple e-mail and newsgroup accounts. Thunderbird 152.0 changelog: SecurityDevices enabled in enterprise policies One-click account setup for Thundermail accounts What’s Changed Use 'Add' instead of 'New' for account, calendar, address book creation buttons GMail OAuth updated to use PKCE Mail server hostname also checked when detecting address books and calendars Updated about:rights to replace local with hosted url 'Hide completed tasks' now also hides cancelled tasks What’s Fixed New mail alerts appeared on wrong monitor in three-monitor setup Spam messages triggered new mail notifications before being moved to Spam folder Filtered IMAP or NNTP subscriptions were lost after closing Subscribe dialog 'Download Headers' dialog for newsgroups failed to open Messages nested deeper than 255 levels disappeared from threading view Performing Delete followed by Undo on thread parent message could corrupt view Single messages still appeared collapsible after thread members were deleted Updated threads remained misordered until folder refresh or resort Non-threaded subject sorting separated 'RE:' replies from original messages BCC recipients were included in signed email headers Filter search on Body missed draft messages containing German umlauts Thunderbird could crash during local message search Blocked file warning showed without 'Unblock File' button in compose window Forwarding/Redirecting Exchange messages failed with NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY Compose window closed early and send progress dialog hung after NNTP failure Compose window stayed open after sending when mailnews.sendInBackground set Microsoft OAuth2 failed when HTTPS localhost redirect was not intercepted Pasting contact photos stopped working when photo button had focus Filter dialog lacked focus ring and had poorly distinguishable buttons Subfolder kept stale accessibility unread count after unread messages were deleted 'Edit as New Message' and inline 'Forward' not possible with PGP-signed messages Various MIME improvements EWS messages could go missing from folder view IMAP "Show only subscribed folders" could not be changed without restart Unable to delete more than 1000 messages at a time on Microsoft 365 EWS folders in Trash were moved to Trash again instead of being hard deleted IMAP notifications repeated for emails read on another device after sleep wake POP3 deadlocked when server went silent without closing socket Calendar acceptance no longer distinguished between single occurrence and series Transparent popups on macOS made calendar event editing difficult Duplicate attendees were added to invitations instead of being filtered out Task percentage complete was not preserved separately from status in tooltips Visual and UX improvements Security fixes Download: Thunderbird 152.0 for Windows (EN/US) | 32-bit | ~70.0 MB (Open Source) Download: Thunderbird 152.0 for Mac OS (EN/US) | 145.0 MB Download: Thunderbird 152.0 in other languages View: Thunderbird Website | Screenshot | Release Notes Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Nearly half of American adults now use AI, but concerns are also growing by Hamid Ganji Since the launch of ChatGPT in 2022, the way people research, get their news, and perform routine tasks has changed dramatically. Now, almost everything around us has a touch of AI, and companies are trying to embed it into nearly every product and service they offer. With that in mind, new research shows how Americans are actually adopting this change and using AI in their everyday lives. According to new research conducted by the Pew Research Center, 49% of American adults now use AI chatbots like ChatGPT or Gemini. This marks a significant increase over last year, when only 33% of American adults reported using AI. Additionally, four in ten U.S. adults (42%) said they use AI tools to research information, while 38% said they use these tools to handle tasks at work. Entertainment, image and video editing, and getting medical advice are among the other ways Americans are using AI. Moreover, ChatGPT dominates the U.S. AI market, with 44% of respondents saying they use OpenAI's chatbot. Gemini follows at 24%, while Copilot and Meta AI account for 17% and 14%, respectively. Respondents also said that AI chatbots generally have a positive impact on their productivity and how informed they are. But when it comes to AI’s impact on society, Americans remain largely skeptical. About 40% of American adults believe AI will be more harmful than beneficial to society over the next 20 years. Additionally, 31% expect AI to have a negative effect on them personally. Another 31% of respondents say AI could be equally positive and negative. As for data security, pessimism remains high: 71% of respondents say AI will make their personal information less secure, while only 3% believe it will make their data more secure. American adults also largely lack confidence in both the government and AI companies when it comes to regulating and developing AI. About 67% of Americans have little to no confidence in the U.S. government’s ability to regulate AI effectively. Six in ten adults are also not confident that U.S. companies will develop and use these tools responsibly.
    • MultiOS-USB 0.11.1 by Razvan Serea MultiOS-USB is a versatile, open-source utility designed to create multiboot USB drives capable of hosting multiple operating systems on a single portable device. The project simplifies the process of building a bootable USB by automating the configuration of various boot loaders and file systems, enabling users to install and run diverse operating systems, including Windows, Linux distributions, and diagnostic tools, directly from one drive. It supports ISO booting and persistence, which allows changes made during live sessions to be retained, making it ideal for testing, troubleshooting, or system recovery. Features: BIOS and UEFI support Secure Boot support (boot, manage uefi keys) Load UEFI drivers Launch .efi executables and other boot loaders Boot Linux from .iso images Boot WinPE from bootable .wim images Boot Windows 10/11 installer from ISO (currently, SB must be disabled during installation) Boot Linux installer from network (experimental) Boot locally installed systems: Linux, Windows Automatically update configuration files Without background services exFAT file system support Automatic detection of compatible ISO images (GRUB loopback) Support for systems without loopback support Allows customisation of ISO boot menu (for example: custom kernel options) Support for USB, SSD, nvme, mmcblk, loop, nbd and virtual disks Support for x86, x86_64 A list of tested ISO images can be found here MultiOS-USB 0.11.1 changelog: 68122b7: Fixed-release AUR package #63 fba0283: Update shim to 16.1 8c2ae95: Update grub to v2.14-1 ea15c1d: Update Memtest86+ to v8.10 162f4e6: Add secureblue (#71) b2da8ae: Add AerynOS (#74) ac6640e: Bump config.version 34e9ca6: Add Bluefin (#72) 7a10edd: Add Aurora (#66) cab701b: Update wimboot to v2.9.0-1 90da7f7: Fix Windows error: 0x80070001 - 0x4002F (#52) 2dea73d: Add Microsoft certificates 01f479e: Remove old efi_uga module Download: MultiOS-USB 0.11.1 | 5.3 MB (Open Source) View: MultiOS-USB Website | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      Vincian earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • First Post
      Jocimo earned a badge
      First Post
    • Week One Done
      suprememobiles48 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Windows Guy earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      Prasann earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      509
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      172
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      89
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      76
    5. 5
      neufuse
      69
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!