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They haven't said but I'd be surprised if you could move it any further than line of sight.

Line of sight? It's not infra-red you know :p I've read something like 20-30ft with direct line of sight on Neogaf, but lord knows what it's like in a house. Certainly probably usable from the room next door, though not sure about floors. It uses their own custom, minimal latency streaming technology, but they've never stated how far it can travel.

I suppose calling it a tablet can be slightly misleading to people - as that gives the impression that it can actually work by itself - whereas in actuality it is just a dumb slave unit to the console, which does all it's processing for it.

The Wii U GP can be used independently in some aspects like TV Remote and who knows what else but it is a Gamepad not a Tablet as you canot take it outside the house and connect to Wifi and use it

Wii U Gamepad is not a a Tablet End of story Says Nintendo

Line of sight? It's not infra-red you know :p I've read something like 20-30ft with direct line of sight on Neogaf, but lord knows what it's like in a house. Certainly probably usable from the room next door, though not sure about floors. It uses their own custom, minimal latency streaming technology, but they've never stated how far it can travel.

I suppose calling it a tablet can be slightly misleading to people - as that gives the impression that it can actually work by itself - whereas in actuality it is just a dumb slave unit to the console, which does all it's processing for it.

Yeah I know its not, but its unlikely to work through walls and not many people have a 20foot living room so it was easier just to say line of sight.

Gamepad - http://www.nintendo....wiiu/index.html

2.5h to charge, and runs 3-5 hours depending on brightness.

Just when you thought it couldnt get any more fail.

Pretty sad when devices like iPad can run for 10 hours with a much bigger screen, CPU/GPU, etc... and is paper thin and the Wii U tablet that has loads of space for a beefy battery can run for 3-5 hours and it doesnt even have a CPU/GPU its just a display.

Pretty sad when devices like iPad can run for 10 hours with a much bigger screen, CPU/GPU, etc... and is paper thin and the Wii U tablet that has loads of space for a beefy battery can run for 3-5 hours and it doesnt even have a CPU/GPU its just a display.

Firstly, the iPad runs for 10 hours when only using light applications correct? While playing games that's probably sharply reduced, secondly 3-5 hours is more than respectable, since it doesn't need an extended life, basically you just set it back to charge when you're not using it and that's never an issue.

Firstly, the iPad runs for 10 hours when only using light applications correct? While playing games that's probably sharply reduced, secondly 3-5 hours is more than respectable, since it doesn't need an extended life, basically you just set it back to charge when you're not using it and that's never an issue.

Yes but the iPad has a massive screen and it has a processor and graphics chip, the Wii U 'gamepad' has a display and a wireless transmitter/receiver, thats it.

Yeah I know its not, but its unlikely to work through walls and not many people have a 20foot living room so it was easier just to say line of sight.

Just when you thought it couldnt get any more fail.

Pretty sad when devices like iPad can run for 10 hours with a much bigger screen, CPU/GPU, etc... and is paper thin and the Wii U tablet that has loads of space for a beefy battery can run for 3-5 hours and it doesnt even have a CPU/GPU its just a display.

Not a Tablet does Nintendo call it a Tablet NO they dont so quit calling it something it is clearly not

Yeah I know its not, but its unlikely to work through walls and not many people have a 20foot living room so it was easier just to say line of sight.

Just when you thought it couldnt get any more fail.

Pretty sad when devices like iPad can run for 10 hours with a much bigger screen, CPU/GPU, etc... and is paper thin and the Wii U tablet that has loads of space for a beefy battery can run for 3-5 hours and it doesnt even have a CPU/GPU its just a display.

iPads are meant to be left on for long periods of time. Last time I sat down to game. It was no more than 3-4 hours. So I have no issue with this. I'll just recharge it after every long session

Not a Tablet does Nintendo call it a Tablet NO they dont so quit calling it something it is clearly not

Gamepad.

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Tablet.

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iPads are meant to be left on for long periods of time. Last time I sat down to game. It was no more than 3-4 hours. So I have no issue with this. I'll just recharge it after every long session

The iPad has a CPU/GPU, the Wii U Tablet is a 'dumb' device, its a screen with wireless transmitter, nothing more.

The iPad has a CPU/GPU, the Wii U Tablet is a 'dumb' device, its a screen with wireless transmitter, nothing more.

Obviously it has some sort of chip in it to display graphics and accept inputs. Also, the iPad is at least $500, this controller is only a fraction of whatever the WiiU sells for... my guess is the battery they're using is not quite the same caliber at that price point.

Also also.... 3 - 5 hours? I think that's long enough.

Gamepad.

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Tablet.

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The iPad has a CPU/GPU, the Wii U Tablet is a 'dumb' device, its a screen with wireless transmitter, nothing more.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/e3-2012-nintendo-shows-off-wii-u-pro-controller Wii U pro controller

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/e3-2012-nintendo-details-wii-u-hardware-functionality Wii U Gamepad

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Yes but the iPad has a massive screen and it has a processor and graphics chip, the Wii U 'gamepad' has a display and a wireless transmitter/receiver, thats it.

And the iPad has an extremely large, heavy and expensive battery pack in it. The WiiU controller is designed to be light, comfortable and affordable. 3-5 hours will last most play sessions, and I'm assuming they'll include a docking station like they to with the 3DS. Though like I do most of the time at home with my 360 and PS3, I'll just it plugged in :p

I just look at it as a bigger version of the bottom of a ds.

Battery life kinda sucks, but so does every 360 play and charge kit I've ever owned, so I'm used to leaving the controllers plugged in while playing, so it's not a huge issue for me. it's kind of expected since it has a screen, and has to be moderately priced. We really need a revolution in battery tech though.

Well these two things are a big part of a tablet :rolleyes:

As is the ability to actually take it out and do things. I wouldn't call this a tablet in the same sense as iPad / Android tablets - more in the sense of a Wacom drawing tablet, which are really two different types of devices.

As is the ability to actually take it out and do things. I wouldn't call this a tablet in the same sense as iPad / Android tablets - more in the sense of a Wacom drawing tablet, which are really two different types of devices.

You could say it's a tethered tablet. I'm not sure why people are so against other people reffering to the new controller as a tablet. I think the new controller is neat and I can't wait :D

I'll probably get a Wii U but only because I have a bunch of virtual console stuff and my Wii will eventually die. The controller is stupid. Make a damn normal controller for once, Nintendo!

First of all, Nintendo invented the modern controller, and everyone else has copied and tweaked Nintendo's innovations.

Secondly, here is your "Normal" controller!

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And the iPad has an extremely large, heavy and expensive battery pack in it. The WiiU controller is designed to be light, comfortable and affordable. 3-5 hours will last most play sessions, and I'm assuming they'll include a docking station like they to with the 3DS. Though like I do most of the time at home with my 360 and PS3, I'll just it plugged in :p

I do the same with my PS3 controller with my PC when the battery is low and continue playing on the PS3. I even do this with my Wiimote because i bought a cheap rechargeable battery that has a mini usb input. If this Wii U Gamepad has a usb input to charge it then ill hook it up to my PC and keep playing.

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