Stefano Elia Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Looks nice, great design as always Zain. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Making a mockup is nothing like making an actual product with huge compatibility constraints. There were plenty of cool looking mockups made internally at Microsoft as well, believe me. I don't think some of the purely aesthetic choices have anything to do with compatibility. If Aero worked and all the themes and skins I don't think compatibility is an issue. Whoever is making the decisions, is choosing craptastic. Microsoft has never been known for their "style," though some things have gotten better. Let's just hope MS doesn't lock out skinners and customizers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I think I posted elsewhere but at least Win8 should be good for Neowin, with the death of Aero we'll actually need themes again. Good work Zain. There are lots of great concepts floating around. Gotta love progress :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I really can?t tell why so many people like these shots. Looks like something that could be drawn in Paint (except for the icons of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I really can?t tell why so many people like these shots. Looks like something that could be drawn in Paint (except for the icons of course). All of Metro can be drawn in Paint. remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAMj Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (except for the icons of course). false contextfree 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floopydoodle Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Update: DrakeN2k, KRazpopov, sanctified and 7 others 10 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted June 16, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted June 16, 2012 You know what, specially with icons in mind, MS made them more plain and a bit monochrome in the VS2012 beta and everyone tossed a fit. If you do the same in Explorer I bet people will toss a fit there as well. So really, regardless of how they change the theme it's icons and other elements overall, someones going to toss a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yeah, I just realized I'm still using/loving Zain Adeel's tweaks to Aero with his theme Shine 2.0. :D This guy... :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 as always, someone with a brain that logically thinks think through! Nice job Zain, its been a pleasure to be exposed to some of your work bro (Y) keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Microsoft are limited in the amount they can change without potentially breaking older apps. Also without window borders it because a lot more difficult to use touch to resize them. I would like to be able to change the accent colour, and have it effect icons, and the status bar, taskbar etc Not sure if this would be possible with the theme system as it is. The Icons need to be much more Metro-fied, just look at Visual Studio 2012 and Office 2013 Things would still work without borders. IIRC, the actual touch area around the windows in Win8 is larger than in Win7, and extends beyond the visible window edge. I agree with everything else you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagamer34 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The first image looked great, but I kinda wish the icons didn't have the same primary color to make them more distinctive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Bladimir Van Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 ... Also without window borders it because a lot more difficult to use touch to resize them. Just because you can't see the window borders doesn't mean that they're not still there. This is my current win8 theme (no hacking required - the window borders are still there, just the same colour as everything else): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 You know what, specially with icons in mind, MS made them more plain and a bit monochrome in the VS2012 beta and everyone tossed a fit. If you do the same in Explorer I bet people will toss a fit there as well. People are already throwing hissy fits so there really isn't any reason to back down now. Microsoft has gone on about how it has removed all the fake 3D effects from the operating system yet the icons still have faux-depth and don't gel with the new visual style. If Microsoft is going to make sweeping changes then it needs to do so with some consistency. Right now it looks like amateur hour. Dot Matrix 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 THIS.. is really sweet!! good work man! I like the icons.. They can be refined but I like the direction. The titlebar would look better white. the accent suits the status bar more. But that's a personal preference. Update: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted June 17, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted June 17, 2012 People are already throwing hissy fits so there really isn't any reason to back down now. Microsoft has gone on about how it has removed all the fake 3D effects from the operating system yet the icons still have faux-depth and don't gel with the new visual style. If Microsoft is going to make sweeping changes then it needs to do so with some consistency. Right now it looks like amateur hour. I think they will, and won't back down on the theme change, just saying that people won't be happy anyways. This is why the system lets you add your own theme, even if you have to hack msstyle.sys or w/e the file was, I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazmus Shakib Khandaker Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Update: I really like this design! However, I am a fan of colored status bars like in Office 2013 and VS 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Update: Snipped When comparing this to the OS X Finder there's one huge usability problem: With the exception of the status bar all elements are screaming for the same amount of attention. Instead the focus should lie with the content area of the window. With you mockup my eyes are constantly being drawn away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 When comparing this to the OS X Finder there's one huge usability problem: With the exception of the status bar all elements are screaming for the same amount of attention. Instead the focus should lie with the content area of the window. With you mockup my eyes are constantly being drawn away from it. Some of that is the Ribbon which wants your attention to pick a task, but I agree. remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbing Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Beautiful. Send it to MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I think the ribbon's icons need to be less distracting a bit and mabye less chrome elements on the ribbon's part. for minimal UIs like metro monochrome icons are best. this way they also theme well. for dark themes they can change to a white on black set and the white themes they will be black on white set. kinda how google chrome is... they can take pointers from browser designers in how to implement themes. chrome and firefox are easily themeable, yet are able to still function well and they make it easy to personalize, yet the UI is still the same in general... they can run it like personas and people can customize like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Some of that is the Ribbon which wants your attention to pick a task, but I agree. It really shouldn't ask for any attention. I know it's there, but maybe I don't want to pick a task there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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