pic iPhone 5 display vs Lumia 920

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

I'd buy a Nokia Lumia 920 if WP OS didn't suck.. IMO.

Don't go slandering me because I have an opinion on it.. WP is just not for me.

Stick iOS6 on a Lumia 920, and i'd probably go for that hardware over the iPhone 5 hardware, mainly because of the screen size. For a big guy, i need a big phone.

[siah1214]

AWESOME! I hope you and the other 14 people who use it will be very happy :)

Make that 17.

If having a small market share makes a product bad, then Apple computers must really blow then, huh?

[tsupersonic]

AWESOME! I hope you and the other 14 people who use it will be very happy :)

And folks here is what's wrong with iFanboys. You just can NOT argue with them - even if your product is superior in every way, they will make up some BS excuse to justify the iPhone to be the best one. I respect people using what works best for them (believe me), but nothing ****es me off more than uninformed fanboy, and that right there is the majority of iUsers.

[jakem1]

Stick iOS6 on a Lumia 920, and i'd probably go for that hardware over the iPhone 5 hardware, mainly because of the screen size. For a big guy, i need a big phone.

The larger, higher res screen would give you a better view of all the stitched leather :p

[HawkMan]

Why would you mark the iPhone down for screen size & resolution?

I mean, maybe you think a bigger screen is better, but obviously the resolution will be bigger if the screen is bigger.

It also has higher PPI though. so it still is a clearer screen even if it's bigger, not that it matter.

They could however have used the Lumia 820, But then the iPhone would have been crushed even worse so ...

[Lamp0]

It also has higher PPI though. so it still is a clearer screen even if it's bigger, not that it matter.

They could however have used the Lumia 820, But then the iPhone would have been crushed even worse so ...

That's kind of my point. The Lumia has a higher PPI, so of course it's screen res will be a bit bigger, and of course it will be bigger again because the screen is physically bigger, kind of cheap to knock points off for that.

[tsupersonic]

That's kind of my point. The Lumia has a higher PPI, so of course it's screen res will be a bit bigger, and of course it will be bigger again because the screen is physically bigger, kind of cheap to knock points off for that.

Your logic is flawed. Larger screen != larger screen resolution. There have been devices with a 4"+ screen with a resolution of 800x480. The HTC Evo 4G, HTC Titan (4.7" at 800x480)...

[HawkMan]

That's kind of my point. The Lumia has a higher PPI, so of course it's screen res will be a bit bigger, and of course it will be bigger again because the screen is physically bigger, kind of cheap to knock points off for that.

I don't think you understand what PPI is.

same res, bigger screen, is lower PPI. bigger screen bigger PPI is usuallyt he same PPI. they increased the Resolution MORE than they increased the size of the screen.

SO no, you don't have a point here as you don't even know what your point is or what PPI is.

Besides it's not cheap to knock off points for that when high DPI/PPI was one of Apple's big selling points itself, especially when they claimed to be the frist high PPI screen with retina when they where just a hanger or and the only reason it had higher PPI than other high PPI screens was to simplify scaling by doing an easy x2 increase from before.

[Lamp0]

I am preeeetty sure I have this right.

PPI is pixel per inch, right?

Lumia has a higher PPI, so even if you resized down to match the iPhone it would still have a slightly bigger resolution. But this chart takes into account it's bigger screen size which naturally allows more pixels..

Or have I got this all wrong?

[jakem1]

I never cared about PPI until Apple made a big deal about it. Now that I know why it's so important I realise that the iPhone 5 has a sh*t screen.

[Yazoo]

Wow! Fandriods call Apple fanboys iSheep :pinch:

Why does it matter to you what phone the other guy has? why do you need to have a bash. Must feel real mature doing it I suppose?

[neufuse Veteran]

I believe they are comparing a 920 screen and occasionally a 900 screen if they don't have the required information. Can't wait for iSheep to see this :p

Already showed it to my Apple loving sister and her response back was "But it's Nokia, so it's junk, Apple automatically wins" even with better specs somehow apple still wins by default.... I sware is everyone brain washed

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

Already showed it to my Apple loving sister and her response back was "But it's Nokia, so it's junk, Apple automatically wins" even with better specs somehow apple still wins by default.... I sware is everyone brain washed

Ever think it's the operating system..?

Most people don't care if Windows Phone does this better and Android has this and that.. For some people, it's like ditching Windows for Mac OS X or Linux..

It's the most popular phone year after year for a reason.. perhaps its YOU guys that are missing something.

[neufuse Veteran]

Ever think it's the operating system..?

Most people don't care if Windows Phone does this better and Android has this and that.. For some people, it's like ditching Windows for Mac OS X or Linux..

It's the most popular phone year after year for a reason.. perhaps its YOU guys that are missing something.

we wern't talking about OS's we were talking about hardware spec's, so the OS comparision is mute.. you can't go comparing spec's then override the higher spec device by saying "but our OS is better!" just because your spec's don't exceed or match them... that's just a dumb way out of a debate

I mean comon, I got into a debate with her over how her Intel i5 Mac was somehow superrior to my Intel i7 custom build workstation... it's a spec to spec thing... and a lot of the Mac people are so brainwashed into thinking Mac hardware is somehow better (we are talking hardware, not cases, etc) then the same exact thing on a non-mac... It's still an intel chip, Apple Intel supplied i5's aren't faster then non-apple Intel supplied i7's... comparisions like that just make my head want to explode when I get them from Apple people that are way to into thinking nothings better then their devices...

[CG-88]

OS shouldnt even come into it because it is complete garbage in comparison to rivals

[rfirth]

I am preeeetty sure I have this right.

PPI is pixel per inch, right?

Lumia has a higher PPI, so even if you resized down to match the iPhone it would still have a slightly bigger resolution. But this chart takes into account it's bigger screen size which naturally allows more pixels..

Or have I got this all wrong?

No, you're right. The Lumia has a larger screen size AND a higher PPI AND more total pixels. But it's not cheap to knock off points because of that. After all, everyone has been going crazy of retina screens lately, and Apple is claiming that the iPhone 5 has the world's greatest screen.

Remember, we're talking about two measures of resolution. Total pixels, and pixels per inch. The Lumia wins both. It's a higher resolution screen in all ways.

The fact that the larger screen naturally allows more pixels is meaningless. That just makes it a more expensive screen.

[siah1214]

Wow! Fandriods call Apple fanboys iSheep :pinch:

Why does it matter to you what phone the other guy has? why do you need to have a bash. Must feel real mature doing it I suppose?

Considering we're touting the Lumia 920, I highly doubt there's too many fandroids in this thread. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

[tsupersonic]

we wern't talking about OS's we were talking about hardware spec's, so the OS comparision is mute.. you can't go comparing spec's then override the higher spec device by saying "but our OS is better!" just because your spec's don't exceed or match them... that's just a dumb way out of a debate

I mean comon, I got into a debate with her over how her Intel i5 Mac was somehow superrior to my Intel i7 custom build workstation... it's a spec to spec thing... and a lot of the Mac people are so brainwashed into thinking Mac hardware is somehow better (we are talking hardware, not cases, etc) then the same exact thing on a non-mac... It's still an intel chip, Apple Intel supplied i5's aren't faster then non-apple Intel supplied i7's... comparisions like that just make my head want to explode when I get them from Apple people that are way to into thinking nothings better then their devices...

Yes, that's just it. Most of these "idiots" (to quote a certain Neowin news story :p) are so brainwashed, they just sound arrogant when they talk about anything technology, since most of them praise Apple to any extent. I've had an Apple friend that made the same exact comparison between an i5 vs i7 (both Sandy Bridge!), and said the i5 was the better chip. No matter how hard I explained and showed him benchmarks, they wouldn't listen - this is the mentality of Apple fanboys. Way to go Apple - you dumbed down technology (in such a bad way).

[neufuse Veteran]

Yes, that's just it. Most of these "idiots" (to quote a certain Neowin news story :p) are so brainwashed, they just sound arrogant when they talk about anything technology, since most of them praise Apple to any extent. I've had an Apple friend that made the same exact comparison between an i5 vs i7 (both Sandy Bridge!), and said the i5 was the better chip. No matter how hard I explained and showed him benchmarks, they wouldn't listen - this is the mentality of Apple fanboys. Way to go Apple - you dumbed down technology (in such a bad way).

mine was worse, she had the sandybridge one I have an Ivy Bridge... yet somehow the Apple sold one was special.. you start argueing down to gems like "it's not how powerful it is, its how you use it!" well great, but I can install windows on that slower mac, still less powerful... I've even heard gems like "The Intel processors apple uses are custom designed for Apple with special instructions to make them faster"... really? you mean the same exact part number is somehow different? *scratches head*

I just have such a hard time talking to the average person anymore about tech, use to be they knew nothing about it and now they all think they know everything because they have an iPad or iPhone...

even a quote like the number of instructions per second is higher on this device, gets berated with "you anti-apple zelot!" when in fact it was probably true...

[Ravensky]

Why would you mark the iPhone down for screen size & resolution?

I mean, maybe you think a bigger screen is better, but obviously the resolution will be bigger if the screen is bigger.

PPI - Pixels Per Inch is pretty much the factor in that, the more pixels per inch the better it will look at higher resolution. Bigger screen does not mean a higher PPI as it could mean bigger pixels.

[Astra.Xtreme]

No, you're right. The Lumia has a larger screen size AND a higher PPI AND more total pixels. But it's not cheap to knock off points because of that. After all, everyone has been going crazy of retina screens lately, and Apple is claiming that the iPhone 5 has the world's greatest screen.

Remember, we're talking about two measures of resolution. Total pixels, and pixels per inch. The Lumia wins both. It's a higher resolution screen in all ways.

The fact that the larger screen naturally allows more pixels is meaningless. That just makes it a more expensive screen.

Well to be fair, it won't be humanly possible to distinguish the PPI difference between the two anyway. So the best you could say is that they are completely equal in realistic terms. Somebody could make a 500 PPI screen, but it won't be any better than one that's 250 PPI. But I do agree that saying it's the world's greatest screen is stretching it. But that's Apple's marketing tactic for ya.

Honestly it will come down to color correctness and saturation. The 4S won in that aspect over the Galaxy, so we'll have to see how this Lumia stacks up once somebody can give it a physical test.

[Yazoo]

Considering we're touting the Lumia 920, I highly doubt there's too many fandroids in this thread. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

lol, talk about the pot calling the kettle black

[bolus14]

I love how people say the WP8 is a crappy OS, at least try it. I know every UI isn't for every person, but at this point in time I think it's hard for any consumer or journalist to say the OS sucks, since MS isn't letting any one see every feature of it.

At this point in time Apple is doing what they did to themselves when they almost went under 15+ years ago, rather than being innovative and ahead of the competition they're suing and dumping a ton of money in to marketing. While plenty of companies do that latter, and it does work for a certain period of time, at some point you have to give consumers a reason to buy your product vs someone else's.

Whether you're an Android fan, Apple fan, or hopeful WP8 fan when it comes to saying the iPhone5 is the best I think Apple is fighting an uphill battle against anybody who's not a die hard Apple fan. While a screen that's larger that n4 inches isn't for everyone, at this point you'd think there'd be iPhone's with different screen sizes. This would allow them to satisfy the CONSUMER that wants a smaller screen and those who want a larger screen. Heck Android and WP8 at this point have both shown that having the OS scale to different screen sizes can be done and done very well.

It seems the most innovative spec in the iPhone 5 is the new CPU. But, the main feature of that is the battery life. While many are saying that there's a noticeable performance difference, the "selling" feature seems to be it's ability to extend the battery life. My argument is that while most smart phones users complain about battery life, they are happy if they can get close to a days worth out of the battery. If you can get through the day and plug it in when you go to bed, why do you need more than that? To me this isn't a good enough feature to convince me to move to Apple's ecosystem.

The UI hasn't changed in 5+ yrs, while the changes in Android from 1.5/1.6 aren't hugely noticeable to the average consumer they have changed it to make it smoother, add features, such as shaking to perform certain functions, touching to other phones for file transfers, etc. Apple needs to keep the UI moving forward, not necessarily in huge steps but it has to keep moving. Maybe it's me but I've never been able to get comfortable with iOS. My 6 yr. old daughter has had an iPod touch for three years and to this day I would prefer not to have to put more music, pictures, videos on it. Apple has simply forced you to do things "their" way and there's no flexibility. I know MS has done the same with WP7.5 and most liekly with WP8 with the Zune software, but at least that automatically updates my pictures and music libraries without me having to run some third party app or having to remember what I already added.

In case you're wondering this is coming from a Moto Droid X users, who is up for renewal and is just waiting for the right phone to come out. Honestly I was expecting to make the jump to the iPhone, but needed that one feature to sell me on it, Apple didn't provide that. Android I think is falling into the trap the MS did with Windows. They're building an OS that needs to support massive amounts of hardware configurations and not every manufacturer ends up implementing it in a good way and Google has no recourse. At this point I'm leaning towards going to WP8, a Lumia 920 as long as f***** Verizon picks it up.

What MS and Nokia have done is:

1. Give a customizable interface that dynamically updates the tiles so you don't have to open 3 or 4 apps to see if they have updates

2. It's snappy and responsive, this is where Android falls behind on some phones.

3. MS is controlling the hardware specs in a reasonable fashion, this allows for completion within the platform, ends up being good for the consumer

4. On the Lumia 920, Nokia has built a version of the PureView that should make it one of the best cameras in a smartphone, if nothing else blurry photos should be a thing of the past.

Summary

In my opinion the iPhone 5 will do very good and will be a good product, just nothing new and for those that aren't faithful to the brand it may make them start looking towards Android and WP8. Android like I said is a good OS and I think Google is trying to stay ahead of the curve with adding new features or functionality with each "treat." Their downfall is having to support the many number of hardware configurations and leaving some things in the hands of the manufacturer. A consumer can get one Android device that is a low end model and hate it because it's slow/sluggish, but in their eyes that means Android as a whole is bad, not the device. To me new phone needs at least one feature to draw consumers to that product. Technology moves and changes too quickly nowadays and in order to keep consumers happy companies need to give consumers a reason to stick with their product and not move to someone else. Being complacent and providing the same UI for 5+ years, not using standard connectivity/plugs, and suing competition when you see there market share growing isn't good for the consumer.

[siah1214]

lol, talk about the pot calling the kettle black

The internet equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"

Glad we could move past grade school.