Canada and United States dispute over tiny island

[McKay]

Are you sure of that ? Does the September 11 tragedy ring a bell for you ? They even used our own planes against us. With budget cuts, lax security who says they can't pull another attack ?

The issue there was America didn't use Primary radar to view the skies, only SSR. The terrorists simply switched off the SSR beacon and became invisible on the radars. Jets were scrambled for no reason because they didn't have a clue where to go. America learnt its lesson now and most major cities are viewed by a primary radar fee.

[KingCracker]

[Mr. Gibs]

The issue there was America didn't use Primary radar to view the skies, only SSR. The terrorists simply switched off the SSR beacon and became invisible on the radars. Jets were scrambled for no reason because they didn't have a clue where to go. America learnt its lesson now and most major cities are viewed by a primary radar fee.

What? Where did you get that information from?

If you turn off your transponder you still show up on ATC radar, just instead of identifying information (altitude, N-number if it's mode-S etc) the controller will just see a '?' (or something similar). You don't disappear just because you turned off the transponder, the only way to do that is fly really low or be a stealth aircraft.

Sure you can scramble jets, but you can't just shoot down a commercial aircraft over the skies of a city. You'd just have a giant flaming ball of metal (+ shards of metal flying everywhere) falling right into the city.

[qdave]

It will never happen. Way more countries love Canada more then the US. The US would be a parking lot before they even fired off the first missile.

Fire where exactly? :D

[Charisma Veteran]

Why don't we just go on sharing the waters ... ? Or would that make too much sense ...

That was my thought.. Of all the things that need to be a priority, this isn't one.

[Noir Angel]

I never thought it possible, but the posters on the American side in this thread are actually living down to my expectations. The "my c**k is bigger than yours because our military has a million billion nukes and were gunna blow yew commiez up" crap got boring a long time ago. I hope a reasonable solution can be found without the people on both sides having to lose their livelihoods.

[KingCracker]

I never thought it possible, but the posters on the American side in this thread are actually living down to my expectations. The "my c**k is bigger than yours because our military has a million billion nukes and were gunna blow yew commiez up" crap got boring a long time ago. I hope a reasonable solution can be found without the people on both sides having to lose their livelihoods.

Calm down hater, the two countries aren't going to war any time soon and no one really cares about who's side is better so relax.

[LUTZIFER]

Typical Americans, think they are all powerful... not even close.

And NO most countries do not think CANADA is part of the STATES, if anything, they'd think we were part of England I'd say.

We have absolutely nothing to do with the States, we are our own country.

It's Americans who think Canada is part of them, even though most of them probably couldn't even find Canada on a map.

Canada is the second biggest country in the world, Russia is first. Maybe Canada should ally with Russia... hint hint.

[KingCracker]

Typical Americans, think they are all powerful... not even close.

And NO most countries do not think CANADA is part of the STATES, if anything, they'd think we were part of England I'd say.

We have absolutely nothing to do with the States, we are our own country.

It's Americans who think Canada is part of them, even though most of them probably couldn't even find Canada on a map.

Canada is the second biggest country in the world, Russia is first. Maybe Canada should ally with Russia... hint hint.

I don't and I don't give two @$#%'s about Canada either. Stay the hell up there, what brings my **** to a boil though is finding worthless

Canadian coinage. I mean wtf am I suppose to do with that? I can't spend it.

[ArKeYa]

"The answer lies in the 720 square kilometres of water around the island in what's called a grey zone. Lobster fishermen from both Canada and the U.S. fish these waters."

Imagine instead of lobsters they have have oil.

[Rippleman]

Maybe Canada should ally with Russia... hint hint.

I vote no for russia for sure. USA may be egotistical, bullying, gun loving, violence prone a**holes, but they're our egotistical, bully, gun loving, violence prone a**holes.

[KingCracker]

I love the stereo type that we're egotistical but its usually always the brits coming out and telling us how good they are. But I digress, Canada maybe cold in the winter and they may have faux french people but damn it, they invented hockey so they're ok in my book.

[FlintyV]

I love the stereo type that we're egotistical but its usually always the brits coming out and telling us how good they are.

Heh sure. If you say so. . :wacko:

[Denis W. Veteran]

I don't and I don't give two @$#%'s about Canada either. Stay the hell up there, what brings my **** to a boil though is finding worthless

Canadian coinage. I mean wtf am I suppose to do with that? I can't spend it.

If we're gonna talk about worthless coinage, at the moment 1 USD = 0.99 CAD. Just sayin'.

I also have the same question when I see American quarters and pennies in my coinage. But usually people accept them at par (except vending machines, of course).

Also about the White House being burned down - to be fair, it was the Brits who did that, and the Americans did succeed at burning down York (now Toronto). But that was 200 years ago.

[Biotoxic_hazard_835]

Oh c'mon guys, stop bickering. Everyone knows that the U.S. and Canada won't go to war over a damn rock in the middle of the sea no mater how many lobsters are there.

[McKay]

What? Where did you get that information from?

If you turn off your transponder you still show up on ATC radar, just instead of identifying information (altitude, N-number if it's mode-S etc) the controller will just see a '?' (or something similar). You don't disappear just because you turned off the transponder, the only way to do that is fly really low or be a stealth aircraft.

Sure you can scramble jets, but you can't just shoot down a commercial aircraft over the skies of a city. You'd just have a giant flaming ball of metal (+ shards of metal flying everywhere) falling right into the city.

At work, their ATC was apparently only using Secondary surveillance radar, not primary radar (the one that shows blobs of colour). Once they turned their beacon off, their ident numbers went off the radar and they couldn't be located.

[Rippleman]

Also about the White House being burned down - to be fair, it was the Brits who did that,

I only said "The last 2 times US has tried to invade Canada" :)

[chconline Veteran]

We should send over our military force. It's one of the most well funded forces in the world, which is $10 in Canadian Tire money per year. We have beavers and polar bears in the army, Canadian Geese in the air force, and... well, apparently lobsters in the navy. F22's and nukes have nothing on us.

[KingCracker]

We should send over our military force. It's one of the most well funded forces in the world, which is $10 in Canadian Tire money per year. We have beavers and polar bears in the army, Canadian Geese in the air force, and... well, apparently lobsters in the navy. F22's and nukes have nothing on us.

Don't forget about the Mounties!

[Mr. Gibs]

At work, their ATC was apparently only using Secondary surveillance radar, not primary radar (the one that shows blobs of colour). Once they turned their beacon off, their ident numbers went off the radar and they couldn't be located.

Yeah thats bull****, the planes were tracked there's just very little the air-force could have done. Like I said if they tried shooting down the two planes over Manhattan the damage could (potentially) have been a lot worse.

Their identification would have disappeared since their transponders were off but they'll still show up (though instead of their number, it'll just be a ? or unknown or something). And half-wit can realize what plane it was since one minute it was showing information, the next minute it was just showing unknown. Doesn't take a genius to put the two together.

[Growled Member]

Oh c'mon guys, stop bickering. Everyone knows that the U.S. and Canada won't go to war over a damn rock in the middle of the sea no mater how many lobsters are there.

I certainly hope not.

[KingCracker]

We should give it to them under one condition: We deport all their celebrities to it.

Justin beiber to be the first one!

[Ryoken]

Sing over all rights to it, to us, or we will send more Bieber's and Nickleback's down there.

[KingCracker]

Sing over all rights to it, to us, or we will send more Bieber's and Nickleback's down there.

Sending the papers right away!!!

[Beyond Godlike]

HA HA HA Most people don't even know Canada is a Country, they just think it's part of the US

On a more serious note, no Country has the destructive power we have, and there's no Country out there that could pull off a strike without us knowing it

Maybe in America where education is frowned upon. The rest of the world is fully aware of who we are.