F1 World Championship 2013 Thread


  

69 members have voted

You do not have permission to vote in this poll, or see the poll results. Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

Recommended Posts

TheLegendOfMart

No it doesn't, they posted a teaser on youtube and it looks like its going to have a high nose but no step.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

No it doesn't, they posted a teaser on youtube and it looks like its going to have a high nose but no step.

read my post again and turn your brain on. stepped nose + cover = no step in the nose ok?

Link to post
Share on other sites
SledgeNZ

read my post again and turn your brain on. stepped nose + cover = no step in the nose ok?

You're a polite one aren't you.

Do you have schematics showing this or is it just your interpretation?

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

You're a polite one aren't you.

Do you have schematics showing this or is it just your interpretation?

if you mean a drawing like seen from marca for the f2013 then my answer is no. but what i have is - knowing the reliability of newspapers like marca - better. guys on f1technical and autosport forums, following the car launches and developments for years (like i do) reached consensus in the following points for the mp4/28:

- pull rod front suspension

- higher nose with a step covered

why do we get this? because not only mclaren rised their nose after a few races in 2012 already following the path of others, its also a fact that with the high of the front wing and the rules for undertray and diffuser you would like to have as much air as possible flowing under the car not over it. plus button, their leading driver by now, basically said that mclaren should have a stepped nose as soon as possible.

with pull rod front suspension ferrari made a good choice in 2012 allowing for better weight distribution, lower drag and it also brings its advantages to get heat into the tires - it was blatantly obvious in the wet qualifyings in hockenheim or silverstone when alonso ran circles arround the others. mclaren said they checked this concept and sources i named above hint to the mp4/28 with pull rod front suspension.

besides that? passive ddrs like on the lotus (renault) and more compact rear design but thats something you can say every year about every car.

Link to post
Share on other sites
TheLegendOfMart

http://www.mclaren.c...car-reveal-live

Tomorrow at 11am.

I'll definately be watching.

read my post again and turn your brain on. stepped nose + cover = no step in the nose ok?

I did engage my brain, you might do well to do the same.

6705.jpg

The nose doesn't droop lower, it looks as high if not higher than the top of the wheels which means there is no step in the nose and no cover on it.

Forgive my poor attempt at photoshop but it looks more like the following picture, if it had a "modesty cover" and a stepped nose the nose would be much lower:

post-1442-0-93437500-1359537648.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
SledgeNZ

if you mean a drawing like seen from marca for the f2013 then my answer is no. but what i have is - knowing the reliability of newspapers like marca - better. guys on f1technical and autosport forums, following the car launches and developments for years (like i do) reached consensus in the following points for the mp4/28:

- pull rod front suspension

- higher nose with a step covered

why do we get this? because not only mclaren rised their nose after a few races in 2012 already following the path of others, its also a fact that with the high of the front wing and the rules for undertray and diffuser you would like to have as much air as possible flowing under the car not over it. plus button, their leading driver by now, basically said that mclaren should have a stepped nose as soon as possible.

with pull rod front suspension ferrari made a good choice in 2012 allowing for better weight distribution, lower drag and it also brings its advantages to get heat into the tires - it was blatantly obvious in the wet qualifyings in hockenheim or silverstone when alonso ran circles arround the others. mclaren said they checked this concept and sources i named above hint to the mp4/28 with pull rod front suspension.

besides that? passive ddrs like on the lotus (renault) and more compact rear design but thats something you can say every year about every car.

Awesome bit of info and thanks for sharing it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
leesmithg

Hopefully, Lewis Hamilton (the best F1 driver currently alive) will not have the hassles and all the problems with his F1 car his season.

He will win in Australia and the world championships.

Sebastian Vettel is a nice boy and a great driver, however, toe-to-toe, pound-for-pound Lewis Hamilton is better.

Link to post
Share on other sites
i11usive

Hopefully, Lewis Hamilton (the best F1 driver currently alive) will not have the hassles and all the problems with his F1 car his season.

He will win in Australia and the world championships.

Sebastian Vettel is a nice boy and a great driver, however, toe-to-toe, pound-for-pound Lewis Hamilton is better.

I agree LH is one of the best drivers around - but don't think he'll be in contention for the WDC .. not this season and not in a Merc ...

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

this years mercedes will be designed by former ferrari technical director aldo costa, so not all hope is lost. if he can do what he did at ferrari (doubtful with the mercedes budget and with disturbing niki lauda on board) hamilton can fight for race wins.

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

ferraris new car called f138. its fine as long as you dont google it. its f-150 all over again :D

Link to post
Share on other sites
SledgeNZ

Hopefully, Lewis Hamilton (the best F1 driver currently alive) will not have the hassles and all the problems with his F1 car his season.

He will win in Australia and the world championships.

Sebastian Vettel is a nice boy and a great driver, however, toe-to-toe, pound-for-pound Lewis Hamilton is better.

Wishful thinking, don't think he realistically has a chance although I hope he does well.

I like how McLaren learnt from their mistakes in the pit lane where they cost the team a lot of points and ended up consistently posting awesome pitstop times. There was a lot of yelling at the TV until they did sort it though : D

Link to post
Share on other sites
Dan~
Hopefully, Lewis Hamilton (the best F1 driver currently alive) will not have the hassles and all the problems with his F1 car his season. He will win in Australia and the world championships. Sebastian Vettel is a nice boy and a great driver, however, toe-to-toe, pound-for-pound Lewis Hamilton is better.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are misjudged here, Lewis Hamilton is NO way the best driver currently alive. Statistics prove this if you need furthur proof.

To be honest, he shouldn't even be in F1 with his attitude and immaturity. He needs about 1 or 2 years away from F1 then come back and hopefully he'll be less cocky, but his personal life will always make him cocky, which is unfortunate for him as he has some potential he just doesn't know how to use it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
+Frank B.

First image of the McLaren MP4-28:

post-1302-0-84040800-1359631552.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
Lingwo

The only way you can tell that this is this years car is because Perez is there. :laugh:

Link to post
Share on other sites
+Frank B.

wpid-20130131_1123570.jpg

dms1331ja74.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

waiting for more and more detail shots in high res coming up by now every minute....

so far i like it. last year they had a good car no need to change much, and honestly, for a year like 2013 with stable rules they changed quite a lot on the car.

dms1331ja15.jpg

479901_462608310472885_85062242_n.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

*waits till TheLegendOfMart confirms me being right with the aspects about mp4/28 discussed a bit earlier..."

clock is ticking! :D

Link to post
Share on other sites
TheLegendOfMart

What?

All I said was that it wouldn't have a stepped nose..........and it doesn't, there is no stepped nose and no modesty panel, I don't see any joins in the nose where the modesty panel would be.

post-1442-0-83881200-1359637398.jpg

Still waiting for an apology about telling me to turn my brain on.

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

nope. new car has a modesty panel, means it also has a stepped nose. it has to do with the hight of the chassis. if the chassis was as low as last years, no panel needed.

you denied it would have a stepped nose. pretty lame try to escape now.

Link to post
Share on other sites
TheLegendOfMart
The actual unveiling happened at 11:20 GMT, showing a car that is very similar to its predecessor. The car that was being launched displays a similar nose that is low enough not to need a step or a modesty panel.

http://www.f1technical.net/news/18110

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang
The frotn of the chassis is raised to 625mm and the nose step is disguised under a modesty panel

source

makes more sense to me and honestly is refering to the rules and therefore should be trusted not some website claiming that the nose is similar to last year therefore not in need of a step or panel.

Link to post
Share on other sites
TheLegendOfMart

All of the speculation about the stepped nose is from that guys tweet, there are just as many saying there is no stepped nose.

Link to post
Share on other sites
simonlang

he knows what he is talking about, was also present at the mclaren launch.

but yeah i dont expect anything, you probably also claim the car has no engine since you cant see the engine :rofl:

Link to post
Share on other sites
TheLegendOfMart

If I am wrong then I will admit it, the only speculation that it has a stepped nose is coming from one person and everyone else is repeating what the guy says.

You don't need to be an arse about it, this isn't a competition about who is right.

Link to post
Share on other sites
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Brandon H
      Neowin's Community Minecraft Server
      Server hosting is provided by BisectHosting
       
       
      Discussion of connecting with pirated copied (including requests for offline mode for this reason) will result in you receiving a warning. The usual forum rules for piracy apply here.
       
      Server Address:
      mc.neowin.net (204.44.126.159)
      Currently Running Vanilla 1.16.3
       
      Server Rules
      Be nice, polite, and respectful No Griefing, this is your only warning Do not build on others door steps without permissions, explore and find your own land Do not be annoying Do not build at spawn without permission of an admin Do not modify any other players builds without permission Have fun, if you don't have fun you will get slapped Label all builds in creative  
       
      If you wish to join our server please post here with your Minecraft username; you must be an active member of the Neowin community.
       
      Our server is powered by donations. Payments are made quarterly. Please help donate to the server to keep it running.

    • By Timan
      Neowin's Minecraft Server
      Server hosting is provided by TBD


      Discussion of connecting with pirated copied (including requests for offline mode for this reason) will result in you receiving a warning. The usual forum rules for piracy apply here.

      Server Address:
      mc.neowin.net (104.208.240.71)
      Currently Running Vanilla 1.16.1

      Server Rules
      Be nice, polite, and respectful No Griefing, this is your only warning Do not build on others door steps without permissions, explore and find your own land Do not be annoying Do not build at spawn without permission of an admin Do not modify any other players builds without permission Have fun, if you don't have fun you will get slapped Label all builds in creative  
       
      ATTENTION: We are currently working on setting up a new server on a paid host. If you would like to contribute towards this cause please review the Poll page and/or donate to the new server PayPal account at https://paypal.me/NeowinMC
       
      Thank You  
    • By Ather Fawaz
      AWS and Formula 1 announce six new racing performance stats
      by Ather Fawaz

      Image via Formula 1 With less than two weeks to go for the resumption of the 2020 season, Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Formula 1 have announced six new performance statistics that will help fans analyze the flood of real-time data during races. This will help them gauge the performance of the cars on track and predict race outcomes. These statistics will use a variety of AWS offerings, including Amazon Kinesis, AWS Lambda, and Amazon SageMaker.

      To start off, on July 3-5, at the RedBull Ring in Austria, the debutant 'Car Performance Scores' will display an individual car’s performance using four metrics: Low-Speed Cornering, High-Speed Cornering, Straight Line, and Car Handling⁠. These are vital indicators of a car's race performance and will allow fans to compare different F1 cars on the track.

      The Car Performance Score stats are in addition to the five other metrics that will debut this season. Complete details on those are as follows:

      Vis-à-vis the initiative, Rob Smedley, the Chief Engineer of Formula 1, stated that “We’re excited to be expanding this successful relationship to bring even more insights to life, allowing fans to go deeper into the many ways that drivers and racing teams work together to affect success.” While Mike Clayville, Vice President of Worldwide Commercial Sales at AWS remarked that “This year, we’re thrilled to extend the power of F1 data in the cloud and unlock new insights that help fans understand more of F1’s rich complexity.”

    • By zikalify
      HTC blunder confirms specifications and pricing of its U12 Plus before event
      by Paul Hill



      HTC is set to unveil its HTC U12 at an event tomorrow, there’s a good chance it will officially unveil the HTC U12 Plus too. Unfortunately for HTC, its engineers appear to have left a test webpage for the HTC U12 Plus open for the public to see. The mistake, which was quickly rectified, now means that specifications and pricing of the upcoming premium handset were leaked ahead of the official reveal.

      The premium device will be available in China with a price tag of 5,888 yuan, roughly $920. At least one of the options for the device will include 6GB of RAM and 128GB of storage. HTC has decided to opt out of using an OLED screen and has instead gone with a 6-inch WQHD+ (1440 x 2880) Super LCD6. The U12 Plus appears to come in a variety of colours including maroon, black, and navy blue.

      The device will be powered by a Snapdragon 845 processor and has a slot to add a microSD card up to 2TB. The U12 Plus is equipped with Boomsound speakers and is classified as IP68-rated water and dust resistance giving it some innate protection against the elements. Lastly, it is powered by a 3,500mAh battery which should see it last for about a day but we won’t know for certain until it gets into people’s hands.

      Let us know, are you excited for HTC’s upcoming devices?

      Source: Roland Quandt (Twitter) via The Verge

    • By DreyerSmit
      HTC officially unveils the squeezable semi-translucent U11+
      by Dreyer Smit

      Without making too much of a fuss, HTC has officially taken the veil off of the not-so-secret U11+, a larger sibling to the flagship the company launched earlier this year. The device brings along with it the same elegant design, incorporates an edge-to-edge display, and a squeezable frame that one can find on devices like the Google Pixel 2.



      Specification-wise, the device isn't a far cry from what has been leaked earlier, with it sporting the usual flagship specifications. The U11+ is powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, with it coming with two flavors in relation to its storage and RAM configurations; namely a 4GB RAM with 64GB storage option, and a 6GB RAM with 128GB storage onboard. The display follows the trend set by devices like the Samsung Galaxy S8, with it being a 6-inch QHD+ DCI-P3 compliant panel that supports HDR10.

      Size wise it's a little taller than the U11, by 4.5mm to be exact, which makes way for the 3930 mAh battery, that should help power the display through the average workday. Beyond that, the device does not feature a 3.5mm headphone jack as is the "norm" with flagship devices these days, however, it does come with HTC USonic noise-canceling USB-C headphones in the box. As for the front-facing speakers, these are powered by BoomSound and are reportedly 30% louder than their counterparts on the slightly smaller U11.

      As for the camera, the device sports a 12M sensor with a f/1.7 aperture with phase detect autofocus, optical image stabilization, and a dual-LED flash. On the flip side, the front-facing camera is powered by an 8M shooter with a f/2.0 aperture, which should make for some good looking selfies.

      Full specifications for the device are:

      As for the strange coil visible through the translucent glass, the device, unfortunately, does not support wireless charging as it would suggest. HTC has not yet updated its official site or noted in its mailed PR statement in which markets the U11+ will be available; however, according to The Verge who had some hands-on time with it, the U11+ will be available to buy unlocked, with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of storage, for £699 from November 20th in the UK, and in Europe, where the device will cost €799. We will keep you updated once more information is made available.

      For more images of the device, check out the gallery below.