adrynalyne Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I was listening to CBS news AM 1080, and they clearly did mention it. I really do personally agree with cbs news though, martial law could help expedite finding the suspect. I dont believe its the same martial law that was like back in the 1800s that we all picture! It could be the only option, if all else fails! Did I miss something? I didn't know there were different types of martial law. presence06 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595647974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 19, 2013 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2013 love how parents always just right to "my kid was framed".... looks like their dad called the police to call them "cowards" and called the media to say they where set up by someone Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595647980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Did I miss something? I didn't know there were different types of martial law. Martial law is martial law, however it could be declared just for the Watertown area, not the entire state! It would help get the suspect ALOT faster! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595647982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." http://en.wikipedia....es_Constitution Oh yeah? Guantanamo Bay. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595647990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 19, 2013 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2013 Oh yeah? Guantanamo Bay. so many things wrong with your analogy..... 1) enemy combatants 2) seized in a foreign land 3) not arrested in the US territory Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595647998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 so many things wrong with your analogy..... 1) enemy combatants 2) seized in a foreign land 3) not arrested in the US territory 4. Illegal 5. against international law and human rights 6. hasn't resulted in any usable information just wasted taxpayer money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted April 19, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted April 19, 2013 Oh yeah? Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, for US citizens. And why question that in a thread about the manhunt? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yeah, for US citizens. He's not a US citizen, he's Chechnian. If he's got a green card, that can easily get cancelled. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 From the webster dictionary! Martial Law ": the law administered by military forces that is invoked by a government in an emergency when the civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order and safety" This is definitely an emergency because there is a terrorist on the loose, additionally civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain order and safety, because they still have been unable to catch the suspect yet! This may be a plausible option, if they fail to still catch him! They could just declare in Watertown, MA, not the entire state. It would arguably help expedite the process of catching him! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted April 19, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted April 19, 2013 He's not a US citizen, he's Chechnian. If he's got a green card, that can easily get cancelled. Then he is subject to the protection of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. My mistake - http://www.uscis.gov...000082ca60aRCRD Why make this political? Is that what you dream of doing on Neowin? Especially hawkman and his constant anti US rants. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence06 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 All units were just told to call in, mean something's going down or...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 my scanner went very quiet... only a few trans. every few minutes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Then he is subject to the protection of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. My mistake - http://www.uscis.gov...000082ca60aRCRD Why make this political? Is that what you dream of doing on Neowin? Especially hawkman and his constant anti US rants. :rolleyes: I'm not being political, I just know how the US tends to deal with terrorists. IF he's taken alive (which I doubt), I expect him to receive similar treatment. One thing he won't get is a fair trial. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 All units were just told to call in, mean something's going down or...? which trans. are you listening too.. link? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence06 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 which trans. are you listening too.. link? http://scanner.wickedlocal.com/metro/cambridge.php seems to get behind after awhile like 5+min behind Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted April 19, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted April 19, 2013 this one works well - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 19, 2013 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2013 He's not a US citizen, he's Chechnian. If he's got a green card, that can easily get cancelled. but, they said they where citizens, naturalized just last year on sept 11th of all days Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters reported over Watertown & Cambridge. Must be the National Guard. Wonder when they'll deploy the Apaches? UH-60 matt4444 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 19, 2013 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm not being political, I just know how the US tends to deal with terrorists. IF he's taken alive (which I doubt), I expect him to receive similar treatment. One thing he won't get is a fair trial. honestly, does anyone ever get a fair trial? if you are tried in an area that covered your case in the media, more then likely there is someone either biased because of that, biased because they know you, or a number of other ways biased... you almost have to try every case in an area where you and the case is unknown to get a "fair" trial UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters reported over Watertown & Cambridge. Must be the National Guard. Wonder when they'll deploy the Apaches? UH-60 oooo... they fly those over my town a few times a year as part of a ROTC drill... those things are loud! Atomic Wanderer Chicken 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupportGeek Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm not being political, I just know how the US tends to deal with terrorists. IF he's taken alive (which I doubt), I expect him to receive similar treatment. One thing he won't get is a fair trial. While I agree he likely wont be taken alive, I think the history of terrorist treatment is generally historical to non-citizens/foreign nationals Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 19, 2013 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2013 While I agree he likely wont be taken alive, I think the history of terrorist treatment is generally historical to non-citizens/foreign nationals and generally those captured off US soil... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLahey Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Blowing up a bomb was an act of war. He is an enemy, and should be treated as such. presence06 and matt4444 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
COKid Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Dude will be joining his brother soon with all the virgins. Good riddance, loser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Dude will be joining his brother soon with all the virgins. Good riddance, loser. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5bw3BhOCI matt4444 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Blowing up a bomb was an act of war. He is an enemy, and should be treated as such. It's not more an act of war than someone taking a gun and killing 10 persons in a mass shooting. As long as they did not have a political motivation it's an act by two crazy men. SiCKX 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1147902-boston-bombing-suspects-mit-shooting-manhunt/page/20/#findComment-595648104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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