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I wouldn't call it extremely aggressive. It was forceful sure, a sober person would have easily remained upright. And its not irrelevant whether he intended to harm her or not. It was an accident, he overestimated her ability to stand in her state.

He committed battery, which is defined by:

  1. an unlawful application of force
  2. to the person of another
  3. resulting in either bodily injury or an offensive touching

That's a criminal offence. It doesn't matter whether she was a drunk driver or a murderer, she wasn't resisting and therefore the application of force was unlawful.

 

I don't see how anybody could watch that video and defend the actions of the officer. :no:

Actually things like this are not as common as you make them out to sound, but that is your agenda, so you have to make it sound like this is some epidemic. The issue with the internet is people only post stories like this and they gain international attention. Never posting the millions of positive encounters people have with law enforcement daily. The typically outcome of a situation like this is, 1: The officer will be fired, 2: The department will be sued and pay out a large sum of money. 3: The officer will be civilly sued and receive a judgement against him. All of that will happen, on top of if he is actually charged with anything criminal. His career is ruined, his life may be ruined also, and he deserves it. There are a ton of other men and women that need jobs and are willing to do put their lives on the line for $13-$18 an hour who would not act like this guy, and the department/city/agency doesn't want the law suit, so it's not like this is out of control and people are just doing whatever they want, as your post and the source act like. I've seen this source before and their stories repeat over and over like a broken record.

 

Just like mass murder.  They're far more common in the USA than most other countries.  But, in saying that, you've probably also got one of the, if not the, biggest combined police forces in the world, so it's kind of expected.

1.  The officer won't be fired.  He'll be stood down on full pay, and once the heat is off, he'll slide back into a job.

2.  A cop could fart in the wrong direction and get sued over there.  The USA is sue crazy, of course she'll sue.

3.  Doubtful that the police will let one of their own get that deep.  They'll pay handsomely for it all to go away

 

You Googled for police brutality in the UK and you got a site for it.

 

Your point being?

That he is doing the same thing to show that somehow police brutality is some huge, growing epidemic and out of control in the US.

 

You know, had you actually read what you quoted, you would have seen that my point was how you search on the Internet will skew your results the way you want them to be.

 

Please read the thread in its entirety to understand "points".

That he is doing the same thing to show that somehow police brutality is some huge, growing epidemic and out of control in the US.

 

You know, had you actually read the thread, you would have seen that my point was how you search on the Internet will skew your results the way you want them to be.

 

Please read the thread in its entirety to understand "points".

 

I don't think anyone in here was under the impression police brutality was a US only problem. 

 

I didn't see the merit in searching for police brutality in the UK and then posting that it exists. 

 

 

I didn't see the merit in searching for police brutality in the UK and then posting that it exists. 

Good grief, it was proving a point.  I could have chosen ANY country.  You are just being pedantic.

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

I don't think anyone in here was under the impression police brutality was a US only problem. 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it was theyarecomingforyou's impression and why I posted.  You can see it in the first post, as well as his other postings on police brutality.

And she wouldn't have been shoved at all had she not been driving drunk.  Fault = entirely hers.

No.  :angry:

 

By that logic if the police officer had whipped out a bazooka and blown her brains out across the cell then it would have still been her fault for committing the initial crime. This culture of blaming the victim is vile and reprehensible.

 

The officer committed a crime and should be prosecuted for it. Simple as.

No.  :angry:

 

By that logic if the police officer had whipped out a bazooka and blown her brains out across the cell then it would have still been her fault for committing the initial crime. This culture of blaming the victim is vile and reprehensible.

 

The officer committed a crime and should be prosecuted for it. Simple as.

 

So the victim should assume no responsibility at all? It doesn't work like that. Just because you're a victim doesn't mean you are absolved of all responsibility for your actions. 

So the victim should assume no responsibility at all? It doesn't work like that. Just because you're a victim doesn't mean you are absolved of all responsibility for your actions. 

She should be responsible to pay for her actions according to the law, but should not be endangered or injured by a peace officer just because she was drunk.

I don't think it was intentional. Looked like an accident to me. 

 

Dude, I've seen NFL Playoff linebackers shove ballhandlers softer than that... He launched her and the only reason they helped her afterwards was because "oh ######, this is ######ing filmed!"

She should be responsible to pay for her actions according to the law, but should not be endangered or injured by a peace officer just because she was drunk.

 

I wasn't referring to this scenario specifically, but the concept of victim blaming in general. I'm assuming Theyarecomingforyou's blood boils everyone he pulls into a car park and sees signs warning him to remove valuables from his car. Froths at the mouth with rage when he has to secure his belongings in a locker at the local swimming pool etc. 

 

Dude, I've seen NFL Playoff linebackers shove ballhandlers softer than that... He launched her and the only reason they helped her afterwards was because "oh ****, this is ****ing filmed!"

 

I'm not saying he accidentally shoved her. I'm saying it looks like he didn't want to cause her harm. Just get her in the cell. He was probably angry, I know how police despise drink drivers. 

So the victim should assume no responsibility at all? It doesn't work like that. Just because you're a victim doesn't mean you are absolved of all responsibility for your actions. 

She bears responsibility for drinking and driving - that is not in dispute and she accepted responsibility for that. However, she bears no responsibility for the police officer attacking her.

And she wouldn't have been shoved at all had she not been driving drunk.  Fault = entirely hers.

 

 

You know, I am usually on the side of the police officers, because people usually are the ones who are IDIOTS and have earned their punishment, however, this one is totally a screw up and huge issue to me.  First, this woman was arrested while she fell a sleep while her car was park on the side of the road, and was not pulled over.   From looking at the video the woman was not fighting the officer, was not doing anything, and the officer used way too much force.  He could have move her the cell and simply placed on the sit/bench, rather than throw her.

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You know, I am usually on the side of the police officers, because people usually are the ones who are IDIOTS and have earned their punishment, however, this one is totally a screw up and huge issue to me.  First, this woman was arrested while she fell a sleep while her car was park on the side of the road, and was not pulled over.   From looking at the video the woman was not fighting the officer, was not doing anything, and the officer used way too much force.  He could have move her the cell and simply placed on the sit/bench, rather than throw her.

Exactly. Police officers are trusted members of the community and are expected to look after those in their custody, especially those in an impaired condition. She should have been escorted back to her cell and helped onto the bed, not shoved across the room as hard as he physically could. What's even worse is that the officer tried to claim she was resisting arrest, a charge that was later dropped.

Warning: Video contains disturbing imagery

 

 

 

Source: The Young Turks

 

Police brutality in the United States has become all too common, with most of the officers responsible never facing any criminal charges or disciplinary action. If this is what they're willing to do whilst they know they're being filmed then you have to wonder what goes on the rest of the time. Something needs to be done.  :no:

 

This is just horrible. I could see if she had killed or hurt someone but this is insane. Cops need to be put in check at some point. They have too much power. They need to stop going after the petty crime and actually fight some real criminals.

This is just horrible. I could see if she had killed or hurt someone but this is insane. Cops need to be put in check at some point. They have too much power.

I agree, though I would consider it just as wrong had she committed a much more serious crime. 

So the victim should assume no responsibility at all? It doesn't work like that. Just because you're a victim doesn't mean you are absolved of all responsibility for your actions. 

The point is that the officer had no right to treat her that way.

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The point is that the officer had no right to treat her that way.

 

I never said he was right to treat her like that. Just offering an alternate view point from the usual lynch mob who're trying to make out cops are brutish thugs who get off on making other people suffer, and only offered her first aid to cover his own back. 

 

People need to realize that Police are people too, and can make mistakes. 

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