Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps

[firey]

Got it last night, and damn they paid attention to detail.  The fact they made the light bar flicker like fire was awesome.  It's very subtle but does light up the room a bit.

[GotBored]

Got it last night, and damn they paid attention to detail.  The fact they made the light bar flicker like fire was awesome.  It's very subtle but does light up the room a bit.

 

lol, they actually found a decent use for it. Good news.

[firey]

lol, they actually found a decent use for it. Good news.

 

At first I thought my controller was just glitching out.. until I realized what it was doing.

[JonnyLH]

Microsoft said they intend on investing $1 billion in new Xbox One games, they haven't already invested it. It will be over the life of the console. (But Microsoft will have invested over $1 billion in media features by the end of this year).

Come on man, we all know that this isn't true. 

 

Some people really just love being on the MS hate train don't they? MS rake in 13-14x more than Sony. Do a quick check on Wolfgram.

[firey]

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What? Not sure how MS has them beat in the gaming department.. I haven't seen a single game for the xbone I want.. and according to statistics 90% of games run at a higher resolution on the ps4 and 63% run at higher FPS. As for all in one.. yea.. not needed when I have a smart TV that does everything but game and a ps4 that does gaming better than any other console (based on statistics).

 

 

So to me.. it's 500$ that I don't need, when I already have what I need to do what it does and more.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

A figure of money is just that, unless you invest in new IP who gives a **** what figure you are throwing around? It's easy to chuck money at just making Halo x, Gears of War x, Forza x....

 

Everyone needs to bring the new IP to stop this further continuation into "and then everything was COD/FIFA".

 

There's more evidence to suggest Sony, and even Nintendo being riskier with their money from last gen, so MS better be taking some of that money and investing in homegrowing, not just buying out 3rd party devs and creating some new Halo.

[JonnyLH]

What? Not sure how MS has them beat in the gaming department.. I haven't seen a single game for the xbone I want.. and according to statistics 90% of games run at a higher resolution on the ps4 and 63% run at higher FPS. As for all in one.. yea.. not needed when I have a smart TV that does everything but game and a ps4 that does gaming better than any other console (based on statistics).

 

 

So to me.. it's 500$ that I don't need, when I already have what I need to do what it does and more.

If you're going to present an argument to why you feel like Sony has better games which counters the capital investment. Actually provide some evidence rather than a rant.

 

The new AAA IP's which have been announced and teased for the X1 so far are phenomenal. You've got:

Project Spark

Sunset Overdrive

Quantum Break

Titanfall

 

That's among the existing AAA IP's like the Forza brand, Halo and now Gears which has been re-acquired. I don't give a toss about the resolution and FPS of the game if its the only platform with the game. It's honestly like that argument is just justifying your own purchase.

 

A figure of money is just that, unless you invest in new IP who gives a **** what figure you are throwing around? It's easy to chuck money at just making Halo x, Gears of War x, Forza x....

 

Everyone needs to bring the new IP to stop this further continuation into "and then everything was COD/FIFA".

 

There's more evidence to suggest Sony, and even Nintendo being riskier with their money from last gen, so MS better be taking some of that money and investing in homegrowing, not just buying out 3rd party devs and creating some new Halo.

 

Please name me a new AAA IP that Sony have announced this gen, rather than just throwing at money at the same old Uncharted, Infamous etc. Works in the very same way.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

 

If you're going to present an argument to why you feel like Sony has better games which counters the capital investment actually provide some evidence rather than a rant.

 

The new AAA IP's which have been announced and teased for the X1 so far are phenomenal. You've got:

Project Spark

Sunset Overdrive

Quantum Break

Titanfall

 

That's among the existing AAA IP's like the Forza brand, Halo and now Gears which has been re-acquired. I don't give a toss about the resolution and FPS of the game if its the only platform with the game. It's honestly like that argument is just justifying your own purchase.

 

 

Please name me a new AAA IP that Sony have announced this gen.

 

 

Knack, Driveclub and The Order are new IP, and they're made by Sony not an exclusive publishing deal. Shadow of the Beast isn't really new IP, but heck the last title bearing that brand came out in 1992, well before some gamers times.

[firey]

If you're going to present an argument to why you feel like Sony has better games which counters the capital investment actually provide some evidence rather than a rant.

 

The new AAA IP's which have been announced and teased for the X1 so far are phenomenal. You've got:

Project Spark

Sunset Overdrive

Quantum Break

Titanfall

 

That's among the existing AAA IP's like the Forza brand, Halo and now Gears which has been re-acquired. I don't give a toss about the resolution and FPS of the game if its the only platform with the game. It's honestly like that argument is just justifying your own purchase.

That's the thing though.. I never like Halo, Forza, Gears.  Mech FPS games don't appeal to me.  Project spark you can get on Windows.  Haven't looked into the other two.

I wasn't ranting, I was stating my opinion.  Whereas I really like Knack, and want Drive Club, Infamous, The Order, Uncharted 4.  There are other games I want that are cross platform.

[JonnyLH]

Knack, Driveclub and The Order are new IP, and they're made by Sony not an exclusive publishing deal. Shadow of the Beast isn't really new IP, but heck the last title bearing that brand came out in 1992, well before some gamers times.

Knack AAA? I don't think it ever had that intention with the amount invested into it. DriveClub is a good example, can't wait for it's release to pick up my own PS4. Also, the Order looks interesting. 

That's the thing though.. I never like Halo, Forza, Gears.  Mech FPS games don't appeal to me.  Project spark you can get on Windows.  Haven't looked into the other two.

I wasn't ranting, I was stating my opinion.  Whereas I really like Knack, and want Drive Club, Infamous, The Order, Uncharted 4.  There are other games I want that are cross platform.

How can you have a discussion about new IPs for Sony and MS if you've never even researched into the IPs of one? Rants do take the form of opinion, it doesn't mean that the way you're voicing your opinion isn't ranting.

 

Regarding Spark, you still can't get it on your PS4.

 

What I'm trying to say is, everyone uses the argument around MS pumping money into only existing IPs where it clearly isn't the case. Hell, I love that they've picked GoW up. I honestly can't wait for the next.

[BajiRav]

A figure of money is just that, unless you invest in new IP who gives a **** what figure you are throwing around? It's easy to chuck money at just making Halo x, Gears of War x, Forza x....

Everyone needs to bring the new IP to stop this further continuation into "and then everything was COD/FIFA".

There's more evidence to suggest Sony, and even Nintendo being riskier with their money from last gen, so MS better be taking some of that money and investing in homegrowing, not just buying out 3rd party devs and creating some new Halo.

GotBored brought up the money argument. You need to take that with him how more money = better games.

About unique IPs

- Forza Horizon is a brand spanking new IP that came out last year (well 2012)

- Halo Wars and Spartan Assault are new IPs

You can create new IPs in existing universe. I like how you guys like to discount Halo when the universe goes much deeper than any contemporary game.

You also have likes of Max and State of Decay that come to mind.

 

That's the thing though.. I never like Halo, Forza, Gears. Mech FPS games don't appeal to me. Project spark you can get on Windows. Haven't looked into the other two.

I wasn't ranting, I was stating my opinion. Whereas I really like Knack, and want Drive Club, Infamous, The Order, Uncharted 4. There are other games I want that are cross platform.

The Order is not 1080p, you probably won't enjoy it.

You can't qualify a platform with subjective opinions based on your taste. (edit: I mean pass a judgement in this particular thread of discussion).

For every Drive Club that Sony is unable to ship, there is a Forza Horizon 2.

For every Uncharted, there is/will be a Gears and so on.

[firey]

How can you have a discussion about new IPs for Sony and MS if you've never even researched into the IPs of one? Rants do take the form of opinion, it doesn't mean that the way you're voicing your opinion isn't ranting.

 

Regarding Spark, you still can't get it on your PS4.

I can say that MS doesn't have Sony beat.. out of the IP's you listed I knew about, none of them made me want an xbone,  Whereas I listed 5 that did pull me to the PS4.  

Sunset overdrive looks kinda meh, open world killing.. isn't that pretty much dead rising.. but monsters instead of zombies? Quantum Break looks kinda cool, but definitely not a console purchaser for me.  I wouldn't buy a console for 1 game.

The Order is not 1080p, you probably won't enjoy it.

You can't qualify a platform with subjective opinions based on your taste. (edit: I mean pass a judgement in this particular thread of discussion).

For every Drive Club that Sony is unable to ship, there is a Forza Horizon 2.

For every Uncharted, there is/will be a Gears and so on.

 

You mean like saying that the Microsoft has sony beat in the gaming department?  The point I was trying to make was that it can't just said Microsoft has Sony beat.. when so far there is nothing to backup that claim.  

[JonnyLH]

Sunset overdrive looks kinda meh, open world killing.. isn't that pretty much dead rising.. but monsters instead of zombies? Quantum Break looks kinda cool, but definitely not a console purchaser for me.  I wouldn't buy a console for 1 game.

Honestly, to me, it looks like your finding any excuse to dislike a game on the platform considering that all they've shown is a CGI trailer and we don't even know the genre of the game yet.

 

For example, your remarks on Titanfall. It has been critically acclaimed everywhere, even by the public after the Alpha test, to be the most refreshing FPS since CoD 4. I had my own doubts around how I'd personally find it, but honestly playing it for the first time it was that something special. The fact that you won't consider it and instantly throw it into the trash in your own mind tells me everything I need to know.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Honestly, to me, it looks like your finding any excuse to dislike a game on the platform considering that all they've shown is a CGI trailer and we don't even know the genre of the game yet.

 

For example, your remarks on Titanfall. It has been critically acclaimed everywhere, even by the public after the Alpha test, to be the most refreshing FPS since CoD 4. I had my own doubts around how I'd personally find it, but honestly playing it for the first time it was that something special. The fact that you won't consider it and instantly throw it into the trash in your own mind tells me everything I need to know.

 

His comments on Sunset Overdrive are unfair, but in regards to Titanfall it does look very similar to COD gameplay as in it has the COD crowded user interface and twitch based gameplay. I don't really see people who hate COD suddenly feeling like Titanfall is completely different, mechs add an element of difference to the combat, but the core gameplay is still fast, crowded and in your face. I don't doubt it will be better than COD, especially for the older fans of the series, but it's not exactly diverting miles away from the groundwork IW laid down with COD.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Topic Closed.

 

Sorry guys, this topic has run it's course. If someone wants to make a dedicated sub/1080p topic to discuss these news stories, then feel free.