Malaysia Airlines 'loses contact with plane' (and search effort updates)

[Clirion]

^ The phones would have to be within range of a tower,

 

I would carry a device that would scream bloody murder to a satellite, from anywhere.

 

Actually they would not have to be in range of a cell phone tower with GPS Chipsets in them.  That is how some of the mapping models work.  GPS Chips work to the GPS satellite.  Tower only needed for phone/data.

[The Evil Overlord]

^ The phones would have to be within range of a tower,

 

I would carry a device that would scream bloody murder to a satellite, from anywhere.

Breitling Survival watch, just don't pull the pin if it's not life or death, :p

[Richteralan]

Actually they would not have to be in range of a cell phone tower with GPS Chipsets in them.  That is how some of the mapping models work.  GPS Chips work to the GPS satellite.  Tower only needed for phone/data.

Yes. I also tend to suspect the first round of search efforts were intentionally misled by Malaysia because the batteries would be drained in a few days. 

 

That being said, in order to actually LOCATE the smartphone, you WILL need towers. GPS on smartphone is only a RECEIVER. They do not BROADCAST their location.

[Chemaz]

Breitling Survival watch, just don't pull the pin if it's not life or death, :p

 

That thing is friggin awesome!! Youd think that if they could put something like that in a watch, they could put it in a plane....and i know they have similar systems (which appear to be easily switched off) but i mean something that pings when it senses an impact, or something very unusual, a system that cant be switched off. The idea of the black box is good, but really it should be re-designed to have the ability to send signals to a satellite.

 

Did anyone watch the BBC Horizon program the other day about it? was very interesting how they narrowed the search area

[Dane]

That thing is friggin awesome!! Youd think that if they could put something like that in a watch, they could put it in a plane....and i know they have similar systems (which appear to be easily switched off) but i mean something that pings when it senses an impact, or something very unusual, a system that cant be switched off. The idea of the black box is good, but really it should be re-designed to have the ability to send signals to a satellite.

 

Did anyone watch the BBC Horizon program the other day about it? was very interesting how they narrowed the search area

That's a cool watch. 

[Charisma Veteran]

I still read the news on this topic every day, hoping something will have surfaced (literally or figuratively)...

[Hum]

 Australian authorities say they're not certain when a new search area for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 will be announced, clarifying earlier statements suggesting it would be made public Wednesday.

Martin Dolan, the commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, or ATSB, said Tuesday that the analysis of the relevant data will be completed this week, but that "before we release, we have to talk with the Malaysians who are responsible for the overall investigation."

The ATSB, the agency leading the underwater search for the plane, had said Sunday that the new search area would be announced Wednesday.

"We are waiting for the Malaysians to get back to us on that," Dolan said Tuesday. "I suspect we will know when within the next 24 hours."
 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/asia/malaysia-mh-370-search/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

[jasondefaoite]

Actually they would not have to be in range of a cell phone tower with GPS Chipsets in them.  That is how some of the mapping models work.  GPS Chips work to the GPS satellite.  Tower only needed for phone/data.

 

Actually they would, if you wanted someone else to know your location.

 

What you are taking about is finding your location by tracking the location of various satellites. You track the satellites, they don't track you. If you actually wanted your location to be picked up by someone remotely, you would need some way to transmit that location information out. Either via cell towers (with/without data) or by transmitting something strong enough to be picked up via satellite.

[DocM]

OZ: plane most likely on autopilot

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/26/world/asia/australia-missing-malaysian-plane/index.html

[bonalste]

OZ: plane most likely on autopilot

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/26/world/asia/australia-missing-malaysian-plane/index.html

Obviously it was. Why wouldn't it be?

[DocM]

After the claims it was flown around land masses to avoid radars I guess they wanted to clarify. (Not that such a path couldn't have been programmed in.)

[bonalste]

After the claims it was flown around land masses to avoid radars I guess they wanted to clarify. (Not that such a path couldn't have been programmed in.)

It wouldn't need to be programmed in, it would be just as easy to use the FCU, or the Boeing equivalent, to manually adjust the autopilot. Commercial aircraft are never flown manually at high altitudes. Too unstable.

[earlcaulley]

It might end up being nothing, but I thought I would post this:

 

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/963831-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-update/

[The Evil Overlord]

I Noticed a couple of things,

 

1, this thread hasn't been updated in a while

 

and

 

2. I recall something on BBC news (but didn't get a change to stop and watch the article) Today, there was some sort of story regarding the flight.

Has it been located?

 

edit nevermind

found an article on the website

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31777060

[Krome]

I heard that the alien is attempting to suppress the plane's memory unsuccessfully.  That's why we didn't get the plane back yet.

[philcruicks]

While we're on about updates, a report has been published, apparently one of the black box's batteries were dead due to an error in maintenance records.

 

But apparently the cockpit voice recorder's battery was fine and would have been picked up if they were in the right search area.

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/8/8170437/mh370-report-reveals-black-box-battery-expired-a-year-before-flight

[neufuse Veteran]

While we're on about updates, a report has been published, apparently one of the black box's batteries were dead due to an error in maintenance records.

 

But apparently the cockpit voice recorder's battery was fine and would have been picked up if they were in the right search area.

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/8/8170437/mh370-report-reveals-black-box-battery-expired-a-year-before-flight

may have been dead... it was past its expiration,  but that doesn't mean it was dead..

[Praetor]

wow a full year has passed.. and we still know as much as day 1.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Some wreckage has been found which "matches" MH370.  Developing story.

A French aviation expert believes he may have found the wreckage of MH370 – the Malaysia Airlines flight which disappeared off the coast of Malaysia in March 2014.

Xavier Tytelman, a former military pilot who now specialises in aviation security, was contacted on Wednesday morning by a man living on the island of Reunion, in the Indian Ocean. The man sent Mr Tytelman a series of photos showing wreckage of a plane, which the Frenchman said could possibly be the missing jet.

"I've been studying hundreds of photos and speaking to colleagues," Mr Tytelman told The Telegraph. "And we all think it is likely that the wing is that of a Boeing 777 – the same plane as MH370.

"Police in Reunion examining the wreckage say that it looks like it's been in the water for around a year, which again would fit with MH370. We can't say for certainty, but we do think there is a chance that this is it."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/11771229/MH370-wreckage-found-on-Reunion-matches-Malaysia-Airlines-flight.html 

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/national/apparent-airplane-debris-found-island-could-be-mis/nm8Ym/

 

[mudslag]

wow that's big if it's true, hope so

[DocM]

http://news.yahoo.com/us-official-debris-photo-belongs-boeing-777-214432419--politics.html.

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Air safety investigators have a "high degree of confidence" that a photo of aircraft debris found in the Indian Ocean is of a wing component unique to the Boeing 777, the same model as the Malaysia Airlines plane that disappeared last year, according to a U.S. official said Wednesday.

Air safety investigators — one of them a Boeing investigator — have identified the component as a "flaperon" from the trailing edge of a 777 wing, the U.S. official said.

A French official close to an investigation of the debris confirmed Wednesday that French law enforcement is on site to examine a piece of airplane wing found on the French island of Reunion, in the western Indian Ocean. A French television network was airing video from its Reunion affiliate of the debris.

The U.S. and French officials spoke on condition that they not be named because they aren't authorized to speak publicly.

At the United Nations, Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai told reporters that he has sent a team to verify the identity of the plane wreckage.

"Whatever wreckage found needs to be further verified before we can ever confirm that it is belonged to MH370," he said.

If the debris turns out to be from Malaysia Airlines flight 370, it will be the first major break in the effort to discover what happened to the plane after it vanished on March 8, 2014, with 239 people on board while traveling from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia to Beijing. A massive multinational search effort of the South Indian Ocean, the China Sea and the Gulf of Thailand came up dry.

[earlcaulley]

They are now confirming the debris is from MH370.

[Mlee1]

Réunion Debris Is Almost Surely From Flight 370, Officials Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/asia/mh370-wing-reunion.html

[Noir Angel]

They don't appear to have matched the serial number yet, but it's definitely a 777 flaperon, and as no other 777s were lost in the area it's almost certain it came from MH370

It's a sort of closure, at least they know the plane crashed at sea now, though I hope they do find it and work out what really happened.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

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Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight

 

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.

 

The document presents the findings of the Malaysian police’s investigation into Zaharie. It reveals that after the plane disappeared in March of 2014, Malaysia turned over to the FBI hard drives that Zaharie used to record sessions on an elaborate home-built flight simulator. The FBI was able to recover six deleted data points that had been stored by the Microsoft Flight Simulator X program in the weeks before MH370 disappeared, according to the document. Each point records the airplane’s altitude, speed, direction of flight, and other key parameters at a given moment. The document reads, in part:

 

Based on the Forensics Analysis conducted on the 5 HDDs obtained from the Flight Simulator from MH370 Pilot’s house, we found a flight path, that lead to the Southern Indian Ocean, among the numerous other flight paths charted on the Flight Simulator, that could be of interest, as contained in Table 2.

 

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