Defcon Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I know its going to get rapid updates, but I was really expecting a new OS, not Win 8.1 with a new task switcher and start menu. Its literally the same OS underneath. There's been no news of what's changed and nothing new that I can see beyond the slight visual tweaks. If this really is the last major Windows release, things don't look good. neo1911, dvb2000, natocccp and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not sure what you expected. This is always how early versions goes. And since there will be shorter dev cycles and more often updates, this is going to be the norm. nocturnalis, link6155, Tommy A Hansen and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I know its going to get rapid updates, but I was really expecting a new OS, not Win 8.1 with a new task switcher and start menu. Its literally the same OS underneath. There's been no news of what's changed and nothing new that I can see beyond the slight visual tweaks. If this really is the last major Windows release, things don't look good. I am not sure why you were expecting a new operating system. The Technical Preview is just that, a preview. There are things yet to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not sure what you expected. This is always how early versions goes. And since there will be shorter dev cycles and more often updates, this is going to be the norm. Early previews of Vista, 7 and 8 were absolutely not like this. They were brand new OS's with tons of stuff to dosciver and play around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted October 1, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted October 1, 2014 what do you expect. it's called a "Tech Preview" for a reason. it's mostly to show off new/updated APIs to developers and to give enthusiasts a taste of what's to come Max Norris, wingliston and Dot Matrix 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Microsoft stated from the beginning this was very early alpha and a lot of the new stuff will not be included till at least January of 2015. wingliston and Sikh 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Look at it this way, its a Tech Preview of an Alpha. Joe said many many times yesterday that this was a very early unpolished build. This is essentially what it would have been like if the Alpha builds of Longhorn or Windows 7 were public. Edit, I don't think it matters how many times it was brought up yesterday in the keynote or the preview video that this was an alpha essentially, people will still forget that. I just hope people don't go spreading hate about Windows 10 based on this build, similar to the early hate on Windows 8. wingliston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think this announcement was more about Windows Insider and getting feedback. Calling it a tech preview is a little misleading as there really isn't much new, at least compared to previous preview versions of Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think this announcement was more about Windows Insider and getting feedback. Calling it a tech preview is a little misleading as there really isn't much new, at least compared to previous preview versions of Windows. "Technical Preview" aka a preview as to whats to come, I mean I guess bringing the start menu back in a much better form. multi desktops, better gestures, scalable UI based on device isn't enough for an ALPHA? This is exactly the same way they approached the Windows Phone 8.1 developer preview Dot Matrix 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I downloaded the preview, installed on hyper-v, tested it and play around. Them deleted the ISO and uninstalled the whole thing... This is just that, an unpolished, preview or alpha OS. Not ready for my taste yet. Shaun N. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I downloaded the preview, installed on hyper-v, tested it and play around. Them deleted the ISO and uninstalled the whole thing... This is just that, an unpolished, preview or alpha OS. Not ready for my taste yet. Did you expect anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I downloaded the preview, installed on hyper-v, tested it and play around. Them deleted the ISO and uninstalled the whole thing... This is just that, an unpolished, preview or alpha OS. Not ready for my taste yet. What are you looking for in the future, though - more of what was in Windows 8.1, or a complete reversion to Windows 7 Service Pack 2? Fortunately, at this point it is NOT a complete reversion. Amazingly, there are some things in the Technical Preview that warrant continued use for me, and I expected to not be much of a fan of it. Weissmeister 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Eh it's more or less what I figured sans a few features that didn't make it yet (notification center, etc).. the CP next year would be a better indicator of how it's going to look at release than this by far. It's quite unfinished at this stage of the game, long way to go and is going to change quite a lot between then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted October 1, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think this announcement was more about Windows Insider and getting feedback. Calling it a tech preview is a little misleading as there really isn't much new, at least compared to previous preview versions of Windows. once again. it's called a Tech Preview because it's mostly for Developers so they can get familiarized with the new/updated APIs there's plenty new from that stand point wingliston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Did you expect anything else? I thought I was going to have fun with new things but the new things that they implemented are boring. The only thing I like was the borderless theme. bigmehdi and Mugwump00 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderMarky Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I know its going to get rapid updates, but I was really expecting a new OS, not Win 8.1 with a new task switcher and start menu. Its literally the same OS underneath. There's been no news of what's changed and nothing new that I can see beyond the slight visual tweaks. If this really is the last major Windows release, things don't look good. At least tell us what were were you expecting... what d'you mean for "a new OS"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obry Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not only is this a very early build but it is also primarily geared towards enterprise users so there is barely any consumer stuff in this. If you were expecting Windows 10 out of this you need to wait another year. I don't think we will see anything close to the finished product until Q1/Q2 2015. Also you have to consider their rapid release cycle so when Win 10 Update 1 people will be saying that that's what 10 should've been just like Win 8 Update 1 etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acido00 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Wondering if you saw on the news it is: "Alpha" and besides that what matters is the CORE not the UI at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+devHead Subscriber² Posted October 1, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted October 1, 2014 I know its going to get rapid updates, but I was really expecting a new OS, not Win 8.1 with a new task switcher and start menu. Its literally the same OS underneath. There's been no news of what's changed and nothing new that I can see beyond the slight visual tweaks. If this really is the last major Windows release, things don't look good. Then I really hope you've never used or installed a Technical Preview before. Because this is always how Microsoft's Tech Previews are like when they are starting up a new version of their OS. Frankly, if you're not a developer, you should uninstall it, and wait for the consumer preview, which will probably come around the beginning of 2015. Actually, from what I can see, this is a whole lot more different than their early builds are of the next OS. Microsoft is doing a good thing making it available to basically everyone, but you should realize that this isn't about seeing all the cool new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 what matters is the CORE not the UI at all. to be fair...pretty much the whole keynote speech yesterday was about the UI, was it not? +Asmodai 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgevella Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Wow you guys. This is on par to the Dev Preview we had for Windows 8 - you know, that version that had a black start button. It isn't so much difficult to comprehend. deadonthefloor 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Asmodai MVC Posted October 1, 2014 MVC Share Posted October 1, 2014 what do you expect. it's called a "Tech Preview" for a reason. it's mostly to show off new/updated APIs to developers and to give enthusiasts a taste of what's to come No, it's not. They were clear this was for Enterprise customers which is suits and maybe sys admins from a management perspective. Developers will get our version at the BUILD conference in April next year. Really this is a big "We're sorry, you can have your desktop and start menu back, we'll even pretend to listen to your suggestions" for big business IT managers and such. bigmehdi, deadonthefloor and Brandon H 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Asmodai MVC Posted October 1, 2014 MVC Share Posted October 1, 2014 Wondering if you saw on the news it is: "Alpha" and besides that what matters is the CORE not the UI at all. The CORE is not changing much in Windows 10. It's a huge UI change to try to integrate the new "Metro" apps better with the Desktop and mouse/keyboard users (while not losing solid support for touch) so that people will start actually using it. There aren't going to be any major kernel or driver changes or anything CORE to the OS. Unless you have a very different definition of CORE then I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ok so a lot of people didn't get the point I was making - I know the visual changes and consumer features will come later. But things like kernel changes, file system changes, any major changes under the hood, a new concept like Libraries/Homegroups, things like this take along tiome and would've happened by now. We see none of this. Do you not remember the previews for 7/8? e.g. 8 had tons of new stuff in the early builds - unified MS account, skydrive support, a new task manager, new bootloader, new kernel. Where's all of this for Win 10? Wjere's anything new at all? It looks like this is just a UI change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ok so a lot of people didn't get the point I was making - I know the visual changes and consumer features will come later. But things like kernel changes, file system changes, any major changes under the hood, a new concept like Libraries/Homegroups, things like this take along tiome and would've happened by now. We see none of this. Do you not remember the previews for 7/8? e.g. 8 had tons of new stuff in the early builds - unified MS account, skydrive support, a new task manager, new bootloader, new kernel. Where's all of this for Win 10? Wjere's anything new at all? It looks like this is just a UI change. How do you know they aren't there? I have been digging around and a LOT of stuff has been taken out of this build. Cortanas files are still there and so is the new notification center. Why not do some digging and see if you can find a way to enable it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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