Intel: XP users causing weak sales

[sinetheo]

Sales are weakening considerably as many businesses were forced to upgrade last year adding to sales, but and the remaining ones can't buy new pcs anymore with working drivers.

 

The solution? Stick with out of date hardware so they can keep their costs low, familiarity, and IE 6 web apps, rather than upgrade. A good 15% of business users still run on XP with most having no desire to ever change.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-pc-sales-weak-as-many-businesses-stick-with-windows-xp/

[+Warwagon MVC]

Sales are weakening considerably as many businesses were forced to upgrade last year adding to sales, but and the remaining ones can't buy new pcs anymore with working drivers.

 

The solution? Stick with out of date hardware so they can keep their costs low, familiarity, and IE 6 web apps, rather than upgrade. A good 15% of business users still run on XP with most having no desire to ever change.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-pc-sales-weak-as-many-businesses-stick-with-windows-xp/

 

 

Yep, a lot of people really have no desire to change, even after I highly suggest it. I think part of the reason is they are just terrified at the thought of getting windows 8.

 

While the new operating systems are safer than XP, the consumer is clueless when it comes to security and Zero day vulnerabilities.

 

Just the other day a customer brought in her Windows 7 laptop after she factory reset it trying to get her wifi to work. The reset put the laptop back to Windows 7 pre Service pack 1. She would have had ZERO hesitation jumping straight on the internet without doing any updates.

[Brian M. Veteran]

Sales are weakening considerably as many businesses were forced to upgrade last year adding to sales, but and the remaining ones can't buy new pcs anymore with working drivers.

 

The solution? Stick with out of date hardware so they can keep their costs low, familiarity, and IE 6 web apps, rather than upgrade. A good 15% of business users still run on XP with most having no desire to ever change.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-pc-sales-weak-as-many-businesses-stick-with-windows-xp/

We've upgraded as many of our machines as we can (to Windows 7, not 8), but the fact remains that we have lots of devices which don't have drivers which work with anything beyond XP. There's more than the cost of the license/computer to consider. There's replacement devices, accessories/consumables for those devices, setup costs, costs incurred through lack of use during switchover downtime, staff re-training costs, etc. There's a lot of costs involved - which forces us to stick with XP on some machines.

[123456789A]

Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal to run Windows XP.

[Eric Veteran]

Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal to run Windows XP.

 

 

Yeah, ok... Feel free to contribute something logical at any time.

[123456789A]

Yeah, ok... Feel free to contribute something logical at any time.

 

Well it is a threat to national security with all those botnets running on infected Windows XP machines.

[sinetheo]

Well it is a threat to national security with all those botnets running on infected Windows XP machines.

I wonder how many are in China?

[sinetheo]

I purposely bought haswell for this, reason.

However a new recession could be starting or users are holding on their pIV 512 Meg systems for life since XP Won't install on a new i5.

8 scared them or they buy used when they brake

[spaceelf]

Oh please I was ready to spend

[Mockingbird]

What Intel needs to do take control of its own destiny.

 

That means going out there and advertise Windows tablets running its processors.

 

As phablets cannibalizes tablet sales, the door is wide open for productivity tablets to take hold.

 

The Surface Pro line have already shown, there's demand for such devices.

[sinetheo]

What Intel needs to do take control of its own destiny.

 

That means going out there and advertise Windows tablets running its processors.

 

As phablets cannibalizes tablet sales, the door is wide open for productivity tablets to take hold.

 

The Surface Pro line have already shown, there's demand for such devices.

 

Intel may have to give up on these XP users as you said and focus elsewhere for those that appreciate an upgrade.

 

Problem is to the pointy haired boss at the local oil lube is that his XP box works just and word 2003 is familiar so why change and all that non sense.

 

Many who have dying old Pentium IVs see 8 and just freak and hold on tight to them. During the 7 era many but still not all did upgrade to a newer system. I think Intel needs to get used to the idea that computers are fast enough now not to ever upgrade until they break. Businesses will never upgrade until support ends. It is not 1995 anymore where your competitors could beat you if you did not stay ahead of the times. Now software with business intelligence and internet apps which use IE 6 just work and a newer version doesn't offer any productivity increases to justify the hassle and costs.

 

ARM beat intel frankly and they will learn the lesson Sun and Apple when they lost the desktop war in the 1980s. Once a standard is made people won't change. Now Intel is with the dying standard.

 

If Ms really makes the full version of Office on the ARM then there is no reason to buy an ultra expensive surface pro. An ARM one would be half the cost with more battery and could still use Office etc

[+InsaneNutter MVC]

It could also be that today older hardware is more than good enough to run Windows 7, 8 and even Windows 10.

 

Last year we upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 8, a lot of the PC's in our office are Core 2 Duo's with 4gb of ram from 2007ish. These ran Windows XP fine and are now running 64bit Windows 8.1 and Office 2013 perfectly. No issues with drivers at all, the machines boot fast and are very responsive.

[Mockingbird]

Intel may have to give up on these XP users as you said and focus elsewhere for those that appreciate an upgrade.

 

Problem is to the pointy haired boss at the local oil lube is that his XP box works just and word 2003 is familiar so why change and all that non sense.

 

Many who have dying old Pentium IVs see 8 and just freak and hold on tight to them. During the 7 era many but still not all did upgrade to a newer system. I think Intel needs to get used to the idea that computers are fast enough now not to ever upgrade until they break. Businesses will never upgrade until support ends. It is not 1995 anymore where your competitors could beat you if you did not stay ahead of the times. Now software with business intelligence and internet apps which use IE 6 just work and a newer version doesn't offer any productivity increases to justify the hassle and costs.

 

Exactly. I have seen some XP computers being use to print play tickets. Why would the company upgrade the computer when the current one works just fine?

 

ARM beat intel frankly and they will learn the lesson Sun and Apple when they lost the desktop war in the 1980s. Once a standard is made people won't change. Now Intel is with the dying standard.

 

It's not a lost cause yet. ARM may be the standard on Android and iOS, but x86 is by far the dominant standard on Windows and Intel needs to push Windows tablets as hard as it can.

 

If Windows tablets gain wide acceptance (as it is starting to), it will mean windfall for Intel. 

 

If Ms really makes the full version of Office on the ARM then there is no reason to buy an ultra expensive surface pro. An ARM one would be half the cost with more battery and could still use Office etc

 

And I do believe that Microsoft is aware of that.

[n_K]

Well it is a threat to national security with all those botnets running on infected Windows XP machines.

Windows XP is actually much better patched that consumer windows 7 will be, that is of course assuming companies are paying for the dedicated extended XP support.

Suddenly not feeling as smug?

[T3X4S]

Windows XP is actually much better patched that consumer windows 7 will be, that is of course assuming companies are paying for the dedicated extended XP support.

Suddenly not feeling as smug?

Hes not being smug - Hes being Enron

[binaryzero]

You'll find the companies that still use XP are phasing it out slowly with the purchase of new machines. 

 

I'm sure a lot of the IT support teams who manage these machines know they're open to all sorts of problems going forward, but it's getting the budget approved to spend up too $200,000 on license and hardware upgrades that is the tricky part. IT isn't the first priority in a lot of companies, so if they're still able to work, it isn't the number 1 thing on their list to fix. 

 

With all the different technologies in the Server OS, it shouldn't be that hard to blow away a machine and rebuild it relatively fast if one is infected.

[Noir Angel]

Whether that is responsible for weakening sales I have my doubt, but it is true that a lot of businesses are still clinging on to XP. Almost every smart terminal in shops I visit still runs XP, and so do the majority of ATMs, as well as a lot of the computers in the NHS and some libraries.

[The Evil Overlord]

XP might be contributing to weak sales, but it is not the 'cause'. It's a combined effect due to extended support, and tablets competing for the same cash. Average computer consumers aren't rich, and only wany something that does what they want it to do, and have a 'familiar' feeling to it.

I don't see the need to have 8 or newer os, as 7 does exactly what I and my wife need.

(will I upgrade to 10? Not sure, I'll have to look into it, once a retail version becomes available

Hardware points I think are invalid, I've installed trial versions of 8 on some old laptops and some single core xp3000 rigs, and 8 worked a lot hetter than 7 did on the same machine)

[spaceelf]

I don't think it matters anymore.  XP users will upgrade or they won't, they've been written off by most of the PC ecosystem.  I'm surprised Intel expected much of anything given the last ten years.

[Aokromes]

Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal to run Windows XP.

Yeah, because anyone can afford to buy a new computer to run Windows 7 or higher on it.

I know a lot of small non-profit companies that can't afford even the licenses of new software, even less hardware to run newer windows.

[Gerowen]

Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal to run Windows XP.

Why?  We don't make it illegal to drive classic cars even though they don't have air bags, crumple zones, etc.  If somebody wants to run Windows XP, that's on them.  Who are you, or anybody else for that matter, to tell people what OS to run on their computer?

[MikeM97]

As I previously said , old fashion users own the world .  

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

As I previously said , old fashion users own the world .  

And you're one of those old-fashioned users?

 

As an aside, please use the default forum font to post.

[MikeM97]

And you're one of those old-fashioned users?

 

As an aside, please use the default forum font to post.

 

No , I'm not ... But I do know a lot .

Why shouldn't I use Georgia font [ It's my favorite ] ... ?

[The Evil Overlord]

No , I'm not ... But I do know a lot .

Why shouldn't I use Georgia font [ It's my favorite ] ... ?

Because trolls manipulate fonts on internet forums, if this isn't you, then the default font should be more than adequate for your posting needs