[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[George P Global Moderator]

I understand that, just don't care for it.  I didn't really care for the addition of the title bar or the other stuff to full screen Modern since it's (was) supposed to be largely chrome-less.  Is there anywhere that Tablet mode really needs chrome.  It keep the duality that Modern is an overlay  of sorts and does not appear cohesive.

 

Then again, I think the tiles may make more sense on the desktop too than being trapped in Start world.

 

Maybe it'll change in time with a few more builds etc, but for now the UI's are handled different.  We'll see where it goes.

[BajiRav]

So what's the word on updating to 9860 when running natively on a VHD? Am I better off by creating a new VHD instead?

[Dashel]

You'll either need to repair it so it can boot in HyperV to patch, but probably faster to create a new one to update, then configure bcd.  Was an explanation ever provided to Win8 admins stuck with the same problem?

[Steven P. Administrators]

Anyone else with a weird Skype (modern) bug that makes it start on its own at random times?! I just reported this and it seems that other people have the same problem. :wacko:

Yes, I was surprised to see a notification pop up shortly after booting into Windows 10, but I hadn't opened the Skype app :s Maybe it has something to do with true background services for apps (like on Windows Phone) we'll have to wait and see.

[BajiRav]

You'll either need to repair it so it can boot in HyperV to patch, but probably faster to create a new one to update, then configure bcd. Was an explanation ever provided to Win8 admins stuck with the same problem?

Thanks :) VHD boot is awesome, I don't really mind creating a new VHD but was curious if update worked with it.

[CG-88]

Im not spending to much time playing with this tech preview. I have it installed as a VM via Hyper V and Im only running it when a new build comes out so I can see what the new features are like.

 

I already know I will definitely switch to it and use the start menu so will be interesting to see what other new features are released for it.

 

Has anyone tried installing graphics drivers or playing games? Any points of concern with compatibility etc?

[4ny0n3]

I don't know if you guys noticed but with this new build, some apps have their "app commands" menu enabled since the app is opened and won't disappear. Try CNN app or Twitter app and you will see.

 

The black bars in the CNN app screenshot I've attached won't disappear. They're only supposed to show up when right clicking.

[George P Global Moderator]

I don't know if you guys noticed but with this new build, some apps have their "app commands" menu enabled since the app is opened and won't disappear. Try CNN app or Twitter app and you will see.

 

The black bars in the CNN app screenshot I've attached won't disappear. They're only supposed to show up when right clicking.

 

That's interesting, but I haven't messed around with many apps to see if that's how they all act now, it could be an odd bug though?  Otherwise they'd all be that way, I'm thinking MS might have a new API or setting that developers could choose to support that would allow the UI menus like those to always be on when "windowed". 

 

I'd also like to see them support real mouse right click menus in the apps, it should be possible I think.  So basically not show the app bar, the one at the bottom that holds app commands, and allow them to show in a right click menu for mouse users.

[BajiRav]

Is there absolutely no way to check the download progress? I see a 2.58 GB tmp file in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\<some hash> but its datestamp hasn't been updated after creation.

My problem is that the PC settings app keeps on closing/suspending after a while and if I switch back, I have to re-do check for preview build and "download now".

[Steven P. Administrators]

There currently isn't a way to see the progress. only thing I can suggest is that you tweak power management to not suspend, turn off harddisk etc while its plugged in, I'm guessing it's a laptop?

[BajiRav]

There currently isn't a way to see the progress. only thing I can suggest is that you tweak power management to not suspend, turn off harddisk etc while its plugged in, I'm guessing it's a laptop?

It is a VM. I finally managed to download it by keeping the PC settings app full screen, which prevented the app from suspending.

[George P Global Moderator]

They really should go in and tweak the way the modern apps work on the desktop now, they shouldn't suspend if the device isn't on battery IMO, like legacy desktop apps, just let them keep running. 

[Studio384]

I just noticed that the File Explorer on the This PC page no longer has a "Open Control Panel" button, instead, there is now an "Open Settings" button that opens PC Settings. Guess Microsoft really wants to kill the Control Panel in Windows 10.

[Dot Matrix]

I just noticed that the File Explorer on the This PC page no longer has a "Open Control Panel" button, instead, there is now an "Open Settings" button that opens PC Settings. Guess Microsoft really wants to kill the Control Panel in Windows 10.

Good.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

I just noticed that the File Explorer on the This PC page no longer has a "Open Control Panel" button, instead, there is now an "Open Settings" button that opens PC Settings. Guess Microsoft really wants to kill the Control Panel in Windows 10.

 

Another thing which if will killed, will make people mad and then they demand it back and another debacle... I think MS should innovate in much better way with common ground with PC Settings and Control Panel.

[Dot Matrix]

Another thing which if will killed, will make people mad and then they demand it back and another debacle... I think MS should innovate in much better way with common ground with PC Settings and Control Panel.

Maybe. But Windows is taking a bad rap for not innovating enough. If Microsoft hopes to compete with the likes of newer operating systems, a lot of legacy needs to be shed. Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 to be a completely scalable OS, and to do that, certain things will need to be changed.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Maybe. But Windows is taking a bad rap for not innovating enough. If Microsoft hopes to compete with the likes of newer operating systems, a lot of legacy needs to be shed. Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 to be a completely scalable OS, and to do that, certain things will need to be changed.

 

I am not against change myself, but I am talking about few of my friend, who will surely whine about this change.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Another thing which if will killed, will make people mad and then they demand it back and another debacle... I think MS should innovate in much better way with common ground with PC Settings and Control Panel.

Look at zPC Settings. It's not difficult to predict that MS are going to improve and expand it to the point where it can completely replace the classic control panel.

[George P Global Moderator]

At TechEd JoeB showed off a new build with built in trackpade gestures, build 9865.

 

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-new-trackpad-gestures?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter

 

I don't expect this to be something we get, but it does show that they're adding in a good bit of new features all the time, and not talking about them until they've added them actually.   This is the first time they've said anything about native built in trackpad gestures.  

[DConnell Member]

They really should go in and tweak the way the modern apps work on the desktop now, they shouldn't suspend if the device isn't on battery IMO, like legacy desktop apps, just let them keep running. 

 

They shouldn't suspend when on AC in either environment IMO. If you're plugged in, you've no need to worry about saving the battery.

[George P Global Moderator]

They shouldn't suspend when on AC in either environment IMO. If you're plugged in, you've no need to worry about saving the battery.

 

Yeah, modern to, if you're just on the start screen and on AC I can see that working the same.

[PGHammer]

They shouldn't suspend when on AC in either environment IMO. If you're plugged in, you've no need to worry about saving the battery.

You just need to worry when leaving your PC (or getting called away from your PC for longer periods) about the electricity bill - which is why I love the energy-saving features across ALL of Windows (going back to XP, in fact).  Those same features are adjustable (again, this has been true since XP) - however, how many do, especially on desktops?  (I have my High-Performance power plan - my default when connected to the wall - set to kill my display, but NOT spin down my platter drives; that way I can do updates in the background.)

[Dot Matrix]

Anyone know if there is a way to restore/reinstall the Feedback app without doing a complete reinstall? For reasons unknown the thing stopped working on me (won't even open), and doing a restore didn't work.

[Chris123NT]

Anyone know if there is a way to restore/reinstall the Feedback app without doing a complete reinstall? For reasons unknown the thing stopped working on me (won't even open), and doing a restore didn't work.

I don't think so, other metro apps work though?

[George P Global Moderator]

I'm reading for a new build, heh.   Hope they push out another update this month with a few more new things to mess with.