[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[George P Global Moderator]

What? App bar on existing apps and taskbar in Windows 10 have completely different functions. How do I get the commands (that are hidden in appbar by default) on my apps that haven't gone with stupid hamburger menu yet? On mouse and keyboard with right click or context-menu button, in other words in one simple action. With touch though now I have to swipe from the top, tap that little hamburger menu in the corner, tap App bar. This is such a PITA, they could do a simple tap-and-hold (equivalent of right click, and I did feedback on it) to replace swipe from bottom gesture, but no they didn't bother.

 

The app bar in 8.x apps can come up either with a swipe up from the bottom or a swipe down from the top of the screen, in either case the taskbar doesn't effect things.  The app bar was a nice idea but it doesn't work, everyone complained about how much space it takes up and how it's silly with those big buttons and so on.  It's also limited as a UI feature, it was hardly used or used well, there's also no need to actually hide something like that now, none of the newer universal apps use or hide any controls they have down at the bottom.

[Pikey]

No for task view I was talking about how swiping in from the left shrinks all the windows into the center of the screen. Which, when holding a tablet,  is cumbersome.

Yet I find this action quite natural and intuitive so far .. different strokes I suppose!

 

This seems to be the best build so far on my old Acer Iconia Tab , fresh install of 10074 64 bit ... still the odd buggy behavior but that's what running a betas all about eh??

[vcfan]

Put the taskbar to the top and it be just like ios\andriod\etc. lmao

no, it'll be like the originator, windows mobile  

[x.iso]

The app bar in 8.x apps can come up either with a swipe up from the bottom or a swipe down from the top of the screen, in either case the taskbar doesn't effect things.  The app bar was a nice idea but it doesn't work, everyone complained about how much space it takes up and how it's silly with those big buttons and so on.  It's also limited as a UI feature, it was hardly used or used well, there's also no need to actually hide something like that now, none of the newer universal apps use or hide any controls they have down at the bottom.

Except swipe from top and bottom both killed and replaced with "show title bar" and "show/hide taskbar" (even if it's not at the bottom), leaving with no quick way to activate appbar. And there are apps that hide it completely for a good reason (like e-readers, manga readers for instance). And appbar was used all the time because without it you can't access all the functions of the app and even some basic stuff. I would agree that it might waste too much space in horizontal landscape placement and would work better on the side of the screen, but that might conflict with swipe from edge gestures. and that might be the reason for hamburger menu, which still need to be at least made more accessible by including it in pivot.

[Knife Party]

 

From @stroughtonsmith

this looks really nice. Subtle, clean and very foward thinking. MS do this please! or atleast incorporate some elements.

[patseguin Global Moderator]

Windows 10 is definitely feeling a lot more polished. The UI is actually starting to grow on me a little. I think if they decide to use aero glass system wide it will make me a lot more excited to use it upon release.

[MikeM97]

Nice, new official build coming out later today 

 

Yup , 10072 ...

[Dot Matrix]

Another build again today?

[Eric Veteran]

[Thread cleaned]

...again. Do not make off-topic posts calling out other people.

[KeR]

The OS is starting to feel more polished and coherent. I kind of like the extreme minimalism of the UI. Heck even the icons are starting to grow on me.

[Ian S.]

The taskbar is compensating for the charms. If you use auto hide, it will work exactly like Windows Phone.

 

You have waited a looong time for quoting that post, haven't you?

except the taskbar is clumsy and houses half the functions the charms settings did?

[tompkin]

If they are wanting people to buy Windows 10, why are they using a Mac to show Channel 9 at Build? (not worth separate thread).

Edit: I had a screenshot but somehow it didn't get uploaded. Can't delete post.

[nyolc8]

Obviously it's not a big deal, but it's an extra movement, why do I have to move my mouse at all? If I click on the button and scroll up/down it should raise/lower the volume as expected. 

I just found out this thanks for you I never even knew I can just scroll after clicked on sound icon...

[nosense]

Drag and drop between win32 app\windows app\file explorer. 

 

[neufuse Veteran]

Drag and drop between win32 app\windows app\file explorer. 

 

Drag an drop should off been there from day one... D&D is one of the keystones of multitasking UI's

[ANON86364]

Has anyone else noticed you can record gameplay with the GameDVR in the Xbox app? I started getting tooltips when opening games with 10074. I did not know this was making it's way to the desktop. You can even have it record in the background so you can "record" events that just happened.

 

Open the in-game menu with Win+G.

[nosense]

Drag an drop should off been there from day one... D&D is one of the keystones of multitasking UI's

Agreed, it should've been in win 8/8.1. As a desktop user of win8. This was one of my main reason, I didn't use metro apps. Differently will be switching over to metro\windows app now that this is in windows 10. 

[MikeM97]

IE works better than Spartan in build 10074 [ VM ] .

[notuptome2004]

Anyone else has issue installing from windows 8.1    the new build wont install on my system or well it gets  neare the end but then  long black screen  and  it nothing so i dod a reset of my machine and  it reverts back to windows 8.1

[Ian W]

Listening to anything Sinofsky has to say is just insulting to Windows users everywhere.

Speak for yourself.

He single-handedly ruined what could of been a great OS with Windows 8. 

And yet, Sinofsky helped to create the much loved Windows 7.

[Grinch]

Spartan seems to be losing my cookies for login on certain websites. Bummer. Other than that the rest of the OS has been rather stable for me thus far.

[MikeM97]

Windows 10 is pretty good now ... No more crashes [ same as Windows 8/8.1 , which is certainly ok ] ... Start & Search response well ,  Cortana is cute , wow , just wow .

[neufuse Veteran]

Agreed, it should've been in win 8/8.1. As a desktop user of win8. This was one of my main reason, I didn't use metro apps. Differently will be switching over to metro\windows app now that this is in windows 10. 

I brought that up in windows 8 and some people, wont say names, told me I can't adapt to change and how Drag and drop was no longer a good workflow process

[George P Global Moderator]

I brought that up in windows 8 and some people, wont say names, told me I can't adapt to change and how Drag and drop was no longer a good workflow process

 

D&D not being there in 8/8.1 for store apps was probably just a limitation of the winrt API and security model that they had to code for.  Sure it sounds simple to us now but I'm sure it's not exactly simple to drag and drop files between two apps that are a sandboxed and isolated as store apps are.

[Sszecret Veteran]

I did an upgrade from the previous official build to 10074, and although some things appear to have been fixed, I can't for the life of me get Store Beta to work. It shows the splash screen, then crashes. Went to the event log and got: 

 

"Faulting application name: WinStore.Mobile.exe, version: 2015.4.1.2, time stamp: 0x551c8d52

Faulting module name: combase.dll, version: 10.0.10074.0, time stamp: 0x553ac73c

Exception code: 0xc000027b

Fault offset: 0x00149fd1

Faulting process id: 0x1e2c

Faulting application start time: 0x01d0831c361b5209

Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.4.1.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\WinStore.Mobile.exe

Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\combase.dll

Report Id: 0808c248-f8c1-4abf-bc27-f2363ed6da46

Faulting package full name: Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.4.1.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe

Faulting package-relative application ID: AppFaulting application name: WinStore.Mobile.exe, version: 2015.4.1.2, time stamp: 0x551c8d52

Faulting module name: combase.dll, version: 10.0.10074.0, time stamp: 0x553ac73c

Exception code: 0xc000027b

Fault offset: 0x00149fd1

Faulting process id: 0x1e2c

Faulting application start time: 0x01d0831c361b5209

Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.4.1.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\WinStore.Mobile.exe

Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\combase.dll

Report Id: 0808c248-f8c1-4abf-bc27-f2363ed6da46

Faulting package full name: Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.4.1.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe

Faulting package-relative application ID: App" 

 

Is there any way to fix this without a clean install of the build?