[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[7BMSoousv7fQWYZX]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but as you can see in the shot below Google has fixed the UI for Chrome in Windows 10. The ugly and uneven border is gone, everything looks fine in the Canary build, which is the most advanced of the 4 release channels. I honestly didn't try the beta or the dev channels (more conservative and stable) (update: just tried the beta, still no Windows 10 UI fix), but since the Canary is a parallel profile you can install it without overwriting the actual Chrome stable profile and installation folder.

 

Here you can see Stable channel vs the Canary. BTW, Canary for me seems pretty solid. No bugs or glitch for now.

 

 

I think it's time for Google to drop this Windows 7 look, and go for something more flat and modern like the tabbed UI used on Android:

 

 

[kala-kas]

I'll try that when I get home from work tonight.

 

Note that this method will ask you to select .inf driver file directly, not folder.

Let me know how it goes

 

[patseguin Global Moderator]

I don't believe technet keys are valid for the free upgrade. 

Oh really? Is that confirmed?

[MikeM97]

Oh really? Is that confirmed?

 

I think he meant as in the episode with W8->W8.1...

[SnoopZ]

How can i stop the Mail app in build 10162 being synced with my outlook account, as i have a password set for my office outlook so it pops up a password box all the time, i need to turn off syncing or delete this account from the app as i don't use it although it already says syncing is off, but i can't get anything to work?

 

Turned the settings for syncing on and then off again and saved so i hope that fixes it.

Still can't turn OFF syncing or delete the email account, even though syncing is turned off already according to the button.

[gate1975mlm]

I am a Windows Insider so if I download the Windows 10 Build 10162 ISO and do an upgrade over my "genuine" Windows 7 SP1 Pro computer will it automatically be upgraded from insider preview to RTM on July 29?

[George P Global Moderator]

I am a Windows Insider so if I download the Windows 10 Build 10162 ISO and do an upgrade over my "genuine" Windows 7 SP1 Pro computer will it automatically be upgraded from insider preview to RTM on July 29?

 

I'm pretty sure this has been covered but yes, if you have it set to reserve your copy, it'll download the files and then ask you if you want to upgrade to the RTM when the time comes.  I'm guessing your pc came with 7 Pro pre-installed right?  If that's the case your 7 key/license is in the bios/uefi, you'll get RTM without issue.

[patseguin Global Moderator]

I'm pretty sure this has been covered but yes, if you have it set to reserve your copy, it'll download the files and then ask you if you want to upgrade to the RTM when the time comes.  I'm guessing your pc came with 7 Pro pre-installed right?  If that's the case your 7 key/license is in the bios/uefi, you'll get RTM without issue.

I was told this is NOT the case. I was told you need to be running 7/8 in order to qualify for the free upgrade. The exception I think being if you want to continue being an insider.

[George P Global Moderator]

I was told this is NOT the case. I was told you need to be running 7/8 in order to qualify for the free upgrade. The exception I think being if you want to continue being an insider.

 

He's starting from 7 Pro SP1, upgrading to the preview and then upgrading to RTM, as far as I know it'll work fine.  If people are still not sure when the time comes then just wait a few days, all of these processes will be tested and retested by others for you.

[HawkMan]

Oh really? Is that confirmed?

 

Volume license keys and such won't be valid for upgrade, Technet keys count as this, sorta. depends on how well their system differentiates keys. 

[patseguin Global Moderator]

He's starting from 7 Pro SP1, upgrading to the preview and then upgrading to RTM, as far as I know it'll work fine.  If people are still not sure when the time comes then just wait a few days, all of these processes will be tested and retested by others for you.

Yeah similar to me. I'm starting from 8.1, upgrading to TP, then waiting for RTM. I was told that in order to get the free upgrade, you have to be actually running the OS you are upgrading (7/8). So, we would have to remove the TP from our computers and be running 7 or 8 in order to upgrade. If you decide to remain an insider, then you can just stay on 10 and get the RTM without having to revert to the previous OS. This is what I might just do.

Volume license keys and such won't be valid for upgrade, Technet keys count as this, sorta. depends on how well their system differentiates keys. 

Yeah that does make sense I suppose. Technically, the Technet keys are for testing/developing purposes and not for every day OS. However, I was a Technet member for many years and I think the last OS I purchased was XP. I really hope I don't have to buy an OS after all the money I put into Technet. I suppose I can just upgrade and remain an insider and just not worry about it?

 

EDIT: Saw this browsing around: "In order to qualify for the free upgrade, Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 with Update 1 must be installed and running. "

[+Warwagon MVC]

I want to put Windows 10 on my main i7 920 4 monitor workstation, I also want to clean install it but god, I don't want to have to reinstall everything. That is why that system only gets clean installed when major versions of Windows get released

 

I only clean install once every 3 years (Or when ever the next version of Windows is released)

[patseguin Global Moderator]

I prefer to clean install major versions too. I don't really care for this system of having to upgrade and then clean install later but I get why they did it that way.

[TAZMINATOR]

I want to put Windows 10 on my main i7 920 4 monitor workstation, I also want to clean install it but god, I don't want to have to reinstall everything. That is why that system only gets clean installed when major versions of Windows get released

 

I only clean install once every 3 years (Or when ever the next version of Windows is released)

 

 

I prefer to clean install major versions too. I don't really care for this system of having to upgrade and then clean install later but I get why they did it that way.

 

 

I understand that but you must upgrade to 10 from 7 or 8.x in order to have a free offer.  After that, you can do the clean install so your computer and windows data are stored in MS server ... that way, you can do clean install anytime as long as the data is matched between your device and the MS server. If not matched, the windows will ask you to enter new key in order to activate.

[Preppy Veteran]

Yeah not only is it dumb that we can't change it, but what kind of idiot do they have in charge of UI design? Making windows all white regardless of active state? For such a huge company, you'd think they would dedicate a team to making a nice UI like they did with Aero.

 

EDIT: And I love the black Edge theme. It would be nice to have that a system wide option. Still that theme needs to differentiate active and inactive windows.

 

A: Evidently that team thought that white on white was interesting.  Keep feedback coming on this via the feedback channels.

B1: "dark" theme: If you go too dark you start washing out title bar elements.  Just something to bear in mind here.

B2: differentiation: Most definitely.

 

Right now, inactive windows are noted by: 1px border changing from [accent color] to gray/white, and the title bar text and widgets changing from black to gray/white. I also believe the drop shadow lightens a bit, but I'm not sure. It's not very obvious, but noticeable. Obviously, having a title bar of a color other than white would make the inactive state more obvious. (And, of course, the taskbar buttons also change visually, too.)

 

Yep, plus inactive border is also blurred to background instead of solid color.

[xendrome]

Volume license keys and such won't be valid for upgrade, Technet keys count as this, sorta. depends on how well their system differentiates keys. 

 

Never heard of this. Technet keys are retail keys, not volume license keys. Only MAK/KMS is volume license. Technet did offer MAK keys, but it was for Enterprise editions only, so if you used Standard, Pro or Ultimate as as your 7/8.x install you are using a retail key,

 

If you used a Technet key that was a retail key and not the MAK key (WIndows 7/8.x Enterprise only) it should be fine.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

App updates ahoy!!

 

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

I want to put Windows 10 on my main i7 920 4 monitor workstation, I also want to clean install it but god, I don't want to have to reinstall everything. That is why that system only gets clean installed when major versions of Windows get released

 

I only clean install once every 3 years (Or when ever the next version of Windows is released)

 

www.ninite.com is a godsend for new installs

[+Warwagon MVC]

www.ninite.com is a godsend for new installs

 

So are keeping syspreped version of WIndows on SSD's   .. current to the last month

 

So it's the windows install and updates I don't mind. It's all of the apps I use and to configure windows just the way I like it,. Which isn't so bad because after I get it how I like it, I image it to a spare 500GB 2.5 inch drive I have for each computer.

[Ice_Blue]

So are keeping syspreped version of WIndows on SSD's   .. current to the last month

 

So it's the windows install and updates I don't mind. It's all of the apps I use and to configure windows just the way I like it,. Which isn't so bad because after I get it how I like it, I image it to a spare 500GB 2.5 inch drive I have for each computer.

Kind of off-topic, but I remember you posting a sysprep guide some time ago.

Can you post (or pm) a link? Search is pretty useless on this (and most) website.

 

Many thanks.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Kind of off-topic, but I remember you posting a sysprep guide some time ago.

Can you post (or pm) a link? Search is pretty useless on this (and most) website.

 

Many thanks.

 

Ya gotta use google for that stuff, search here is worthless.

 

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1229521-i-can%E2%80%99t-believe-i-only-just-now-learned-about-sysprep/

 

what works great for searching neowin is googling

 

name of site, topic you remember, person who posted it

 

in this case google

 

neowin.net sysprep warwagon

[Ice_Blue]

Ya gotta use google for that stuff, search here is worthless.

 

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1229521-i-can%E2%80%99t-believe-i-only-just-now-learned-about-sysprep/

 

what works great for searching neowin is googling

 

name of site, topic you remember, person who posted it

 

in this case google

 

neowin.net sysprep warwagon

Duly noted. Thanks for the tip (and the link).

[+Warwagon MVC]

Duly noted. Thanks for the tip (and the link).

 

If you search sysprep warwagon on neowin you get the x-files, a broccoli joke and pretty much everything else that has nothing to do with sysprep

[Ice_Blue]

If you search sysprep warwagon on neowin you get the x-files, a broccoli joke and pretty much everything else that has nothing to do with sysprep

Haha I know. Found out the hard way.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but as you can see in the shot below Google has fixed the UI for Chrome in Windows 10. The ugly and uneven border is gone, everything looks fine in the Canary build, which is the most advanced of the 4 release channels. I honestly didn't try the beta or the dev channels (more conservative and stable) (update: just tried the beta, still no Windows 10 UI fix), but since the Canary is a parallel profile you can install it without overwriting the actual Chrome stable profile and installation folder.

 

Here you can see Stable channel vs the Canary. BTW, Canary for me seems pretty solid. No bugs or glitch for now.

 

 

I think it's time for Google to drop this Windows 7 look, and go for something more flat and modern like the tabbed UI used on Android:

 

 

 

Good, Chrome looks ugly just now. Hope it hits dev soon.