[Official] Star Trek: Discovery Thread

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6 hours ago, Riva said:

nobody asked for a reboot,

Nobody mentioned one either, until you?

5 hours ago, Riva said:

I dont think I lasted more than one season on Enterprise,

Thanks for summing it a 4 season show based upon watching literally a quarter of it.

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1 minute ago, Riva said:

I am sensing you have turned this to a personal attack.

If Enterprise wasnt a reboot then what was it?

Personal? Have I mentioned your traits or personality here? Now it is you who is mistaken.

 

Enterprise was a prequel. Clunky, non-adhering prequel.

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On 4/22/2019 at 5:40 PM, Human.Online said:

Enterprise was a prequel. Clunky, non-adhering prequel.

If I remember correctly, they didn’t prefix the show “Star Trek” because in doing so would require them to follow Roddenberry rules for the show.and allow them to take certain “liberties”.

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5 hours ago, primortal said:

If I remember correctly, they didn’t prefix the show “Star Trek” because in doing so would require them to follow Roddenberry rules for the show.and allow them to take certain “liberties”.

Yeah I heard similar. It was, however, added in certain regions because it was felt it would address the fan disconnect, which some bean counters attributed to lack of awareness.

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On 4/22/2019 at 3:11 PM, Riva said:

Thats the problem, nobody asked for a reboot, it wasnt needed for the last 30 years, they didnt had to do it because other shows did it.

It wasn't a reboot, it was a prequel, just like Discovery is.  No one asked for Discovery either. At least  Enterprise paid more respect to canon than Discovery did. Hell, they even managed to explain the smooth browed Klingons from the TOS era...

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1 hour ago, George P said:

Star Trek: Discovery Showrunner Thinking About the Enterprise's Return

Well, they need to do SOMEthing with the massively expensive sets they built for it... Disco was hugely over budget and the rumour mill has it that Kurtzman might be on his way out the door...

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3 hours ago, Human.Online said:

Rumours also said it wouldn’t be picked up for a third season or second, so...

And yet it hasn't begun production...

 

Time will tell what happens with Kurtzman, but apparently the powers that be are not happy at early screentest results for Picard.

 

Note: What I think of Kurtzman as a showrunner is irrelevant. What is NOT irrelevant, is that Netflix are not happy with Disco and have dropped it, CBS execs are not happy with that OR the poor numbers on its streaming service that Disco was supposed to boost, and they're not happy with how Picard is looking so far.  They've lost quite a lot of money on Kurtzman's shift due to this and the massive budget overruns in the first 2 seasons, and that's not a good way to impress your bosses.

 

Just my humble opinion, but it might serve them better to dump Disco and go with a series based around Pike, Spock and the Enterprise. THAT part of Disco seemed universally popular with all sides of Trek fandom.

 

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1 hour ago, FloatingFatMan said:

THAT part of Disco seemed universally popular with all sides of Trek fandom.

How quickly people forget that those die-hard trek-cannon loyalists were calling him "Emo Spock" in derision.

1 hour ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Netflix are not happy with Disco and have dropped it

Source, I find nothing doing a quick google.  The end of season 2 seems to have been received as something of a redemption and Netflix seemed pretty happy with it.

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Just now, Human.Online said:

How quickly people forget that those die-hard trek-cannon loyalists were calling him "Emo Spock" in derision.

Initially yes, and he was.  But they changed that relatively quickly.  Besides which, it's primarily Pike who was the most popular one.

 

And even Emo Spock is better than Mary Sue Burnham.

 

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17 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Initially yes, and he was.  But they changed that relatively quickly.

No, they had an arc and it played out.  The issue wasn't the character or the arc, but supposed "purists" who felt they were having their cannon trod all over and got all pissy and demanding as if (once again) they even matter.

 

"This isn't MY trek"

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Looks like; Pike Kirk (possibly), Spock and Number One will be back for Short Treks, https://trekmovie.com/2019/06/23/star-trek-short-treks-with-ethan-peck-and-rebecca-romjin-coming/

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5 hours ago, primortal said:

Looks like; Kirk (possibly), Spock and Number One will be back for Short Treks, https://trekmovie.com/2019/06/23/star-trek-short-treks-with-ethan-peck-and-rebecca-romjin-coming/

You mean Pike, right? :p

 

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14 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said:

You mean Pike, right? :p

 

Doh!  Fixed. Had Enterprise on the brain and typed Kirk instead 😛

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Was just coming in to post this, looks good. I kinda figured they'd go with the whole "Federation is gone or diminished" future and the Discovery crew helps rebuild it somehow (only Burnham can do it though!). I wonder if we'll see a Dax symbiote since they go to Trill and Burnham goes into the Trill pools there. I also wonder if they are doing a splinter timeline, where its not what the prime canon universe would actually end up as or something. Who knows at this point, especially now that CBS has access (lol get it?!) to the full on Star Trek mythos and canon (whether you believed that 25% bologna or not is up to you).

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14 hours ago, LOC said:

Was just coming in to post this, looks good. I kinda figured they'd go with the whole "Federation is gone or diminished" future and the Discovery crew helps rebuild it somehow (only Burnham can do it though!). I wonder if we'll see a Dax symbiote since they go to Trill and Burnham goes into the Trill pools there. I also wonder if they are doing a splinter timeline, where its not what the prime canon universe would actually end up as or something. Who knows at this point, especially now that CBS has access (lol get it?!) to the full on Star Trek mythos and canon (whether you believed that 25% bologna or not is up to you).

The merger deal is done isn't?  So after this point they can do whatever and bring things back inline with the canon more and more as the show goes on.  Like, yet again, through time travel tricks.

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