RAF Jets Fly On Baltic Policing Mission

[techbeck]

From posts and how people dismiss everything the west says and accepts everything everyone else says.  And vise versa

[FloatingFatMan]

8 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Those are undeniable facts.

If those are undeniable facts, then surely you must have evidence of that?

[ctebah]

9 minutes ago, techbeck said:

From posts and how people dismiss everything the west says and accepts everything everyone else says.  And vise versa

Which posts?  And where do people dismiss everything the west says and accept everything everyone else says?

[techbeck]

6 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Which posts?  And where do people dismiss everything the west says and accept everything everyone else says?

You must be blind.  Someone posts something here from a western media source and it is called lies all the time here.  And then a lot of the same people believe everything non western sites say even sites sponsored by a certain government.  Again, this happens all the time.

 

 Those who are not extremely biased towards a certain side can see it plain as day.  And those who are not extremely biased knows that the issue is not one countries fault and there is blame on all sides.

[ctebah]

4 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said:

If those are undeniable facts, then surely you must have evidence of that?

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MIA Rossiya Segodnya, the parent company of Sputnik News, operates on a budget of $75 million, including both domestic and foreign media.

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RT has an annual budget of slightly more than $300 million.

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Last year, the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), the US federal agency responsible for Voice of America and Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe, among others, requested a substantial budget increase. Seeking a boost of $30 million, the BBG’s budget soared to $751.5 million.

 

And this doesn't include Pentagon.  Funny, for sure I thought this was all common sense.  

[ctebah]

1 minute ago, techbeck said:

You must be blind.  Someone posts something here from a western media source and it is called lies all the time here.  And then a lot of the same people believe everything non western sites say even sites sponsored by a certain government.  Again, this happens all the time.

 

And that is all I have to say about the subject.  Those who are not extremely biased towards a certain side can see it plain as day.  And those who are not extremely biased knows that the issue is not one countries fault and there is blame on all sides.

Please, provide us with these posts, where people dismiss everything the west says and accept everything everyone else says? (I highlighted the important parts for you)

 

You're very good at backing yourself into a corner...

[FloatingFatMan]

Just now, ctebah said:

 

And this doesn't include Pentagon.  Funny, for sure I thought this was all common sense.  

And what does their budget have to do with the veracity of their news content?

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[ctebah]

Just now, FloatingFatMan said:

And what does their budget have to do with the veracity of their news content?

What?

 

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He merely pointed out the reach of Western Propaganda and how Russian Propaganda, including it's budget, is a drop in the bucket compared to West/US Propaganda.

 

That was my statement, for which you asked proof, and I provided.  Who's talking about veracity?

[techbeck]

5 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Please, provide us with these posts, where people dismiss everything the west says and accept everything everyone else says? (I highlighted the important parts for you)

 

You're very good at backing yourself into a corner...

Plain as day that some people here believe nothing the west says.   And plain as day as some here believe nothing non western media says.  This is obvious to those who have their eyes open.  There is a lot of biased and anti west posts going on here and has been for a while now.  Nothing new, period.  Lots of people see this and those who are extremely biased, obviously do not.

[ctebah]

2 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Plain as day that some people here believe nothing the west says.   And plain as day as some here believe nothing non western media says.  This is obvious to those who have their eyes open.  There is a lot of biased and anti west posts going on here and has been for a while now.  Nothing new, period.

Then please back your statement up with some clear examples...

[techbeck]

10 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said:

And what does their budget have to do with the veracity of their news content?

Talking to brick walls.  West bad, everyone else good.  Been the tone of these forums for a while now.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

8 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Talking to brick walls.  West bad, everyone else good.  Been the tone of these forums for a while now.

Now, you are just exaggerating.

 

There's actually only one entity in the the west which I'm having problems with and it's not even the U.S. State Dept. or Pentagon, or a handful of Wall Street's mouthpieces. It's just the FED. All the money lead to it.

[ctebah]

2 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

Now, you are just exaggerating.

 

There's actually only one entity in the the west which I'm having problems with and it's not even the U.S. State Dept. or Pentagon, or a handful of Wall Street's mouthpieces. It's just the FED. All the money lead to it.

He simply backed himself into a corner, again, and can't provide proof for his statement.  

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On April 15, Witold Waszczykowski, the foreign minister of Poland’s right-wing government, told reporters that Russia is “more dangerous than the Islamic State,” because Moscow is an “existential threat to Europe.” The minister made his comments at a NATO conference discussing the deployment of a U.S. armored brigade on Poland’s eastern border.

I wouldn't have a problem with the western propaganda if the politicians could know better and were better informed.

 

Talk about shifting the attention from the real problems to something imaginary and finding a boogeyman (or a scapegoat).

[ctebah]

5 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

I wouldn't have a problem with the western propaganda if the politicians could know better and were better informed.

 

Talk about shifting the attention from the real problems to something imaginary and finding a boogeyman (or a scapegoat).

That's the problem, NATO absolutely needs Russia as the "bad guy", otherwise it's reason to exist is gone.  

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

 

 

 

Back in the days of the USSR, the Baltic countries used to make cars (my favourite minivan called RAF), the best hi-fi equipment, the best vinyl records, and the best parfumes in the country.

 

Since then, a half of their population is gone to clean toilets in the western europe and all they can export now (besides the people) is canned fish.

 

 

 

[ANON86364]

Typical Russian aggression as per usual:

Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
Britain forced to ask Nato to track 'Russian submarine' in Scottish waters

Russian planes to patrol in Caribbean, Gulf of Mexico

Russian Night Wolves Biker Gang Is Blocked on Cross-Europe Ride

 

It's times like these where I wish I would keep notepads of links to everything that may be relevant when debating to thick headed people. Alas, these are just the ones I remembered. Just keep patting yourselves on the back for "outwitting" us westerners.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

6 minutes ago, Bryan R. said:

Typical Russian aggression as per usual:

Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
Britain forced to ask Nato to track 'Russian submarine' in Scottish waters

Russian planes to patrol in Caribbean, Gulf of Mexico

Russian Night Wolves Biker Gang Is Blocked on Cross-Europe Ride

 

It's times like these where I wish I would keep notepads of links to everything that may be relevant when debating to thick headed people. Alas, these are just the ones I remembered. Just keep patting yourselves on the back for "outwitting" us westerners.

For each one of those incidents, there are a dozen of examples of US/NATO ships making the same kind of provactions at the Russian border (which your media didn't tell you about it). So, what's your point? Other than spreading hate and russophobia?

[ANON86364]

12 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

 

 

 

How interesting. I can see the similarity to this article:

The Myth of Russian Aggression

It's funny how many times the article plays on Russian fear of Nazis.

 

It's very interesting how this map interprets any country around them joining NATO as a threat. You're little picture is ironic. You're not bears, you're little Chihuahuas barking over your fence passive aggressively taking part of Ukraine out of a temper tantrum.

 

 

 

[ctebah]

Ugh, them Russian biker gangs, they're worse than ISIS.....

[ANON86364]

1 minute ago, Mirumir said:

For each one of those incidents, there are a dozen of examples of US/NATO ships making the same kind of provactions at the Russian border (which your media didn't tell you about it). So, what's your point? Other than spreading hate and russophobia?

Just stating the facts, you could do the same you know.

[ANON86364]

12 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Ugh, them Russian biker gangs, they're worse than ISIS.....

It's an example of Russian propaganda. And it's outright wrong given the history.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

4 minutes ago, Bryan R. said:

You're not bears, you're little Chihuahuas 

By deduction, the mighty west is hysterically afraid of a miniature dog.

 

I'm quite aware of the fact that the U.S.'s military budget is more than the sum of the next 10 big spenders. So what Russian aggression and hysteria the people are talking about?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

On 5/4/2016 at 2:54 PM, techbeck said:

Some of the recent flybys were as close as 30 - 50 feet.  Really hope nothing bad comes out of this.  Last thing we need is another war.

Do you really think Obama would do  anything about this but draw another imaginary red line that would be crossed 100 times?