RAF Jets Fly On Baltic Policing Mission

[ANON86364]

2 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

By deduction, the mighty west is hysterically afraid of a miniature dog.

 

I'm quite aware of the fact that the U.S.'s military budget is more than the sum of the next 10 big spenders. So what Russian aggression and hysteria the people are talking about?

With nukes no less so what's your point.

 

Are you also aware that the US exports defense to it's allies more than anyone else?

[ctebah]

1 minute ago, Bryan R. said:

It's an example of how Russian propaganda. And it's outright wrong given the history.

The guys love their county and went to plant some flowers.  Sure, it's a form of propaganda, but to group it in the "aggression" category, together with 2 Subs off American Coast is ridiculous.  

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

6 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Ugh, them Russian biker gangs, they're worse than ISIS.....

I don't like all the bikers, especially those revving thier engines at night and triggering parked cars' alarms.

[ctebah]

Just now, Mirumir said:

I don't like all the bikers, especially those revving thier engines at night and triggering parked cars' alarms.

Here it's even worse: guys in trucks with straight pipes...

[ANON86364]

2 minutes ago, ctebah said:

The guys love their county and went to plant some flowers.  Sure, it's a form of propaganda, but to group it in the "aggression" category, together with 2 Subs off American Coast is ridiculous.  

Poland feels it's aggressive and it's their damn country that got wrecked so how about a little respect? No, that's not the Russian motivation in the least bit. Next there will be "ethnic Russians" in Poland.

[ctebah]

Just now, Bryan R. said:

Poland feels it's aggressive and it's their damn country that got wrecked so how about a little respect? No, that's not the Russian motivation in the least bit.

Oh, I forgot, Russia didn't get wrecked at all.....

 

Perhaps Putin sent them over as a first wave of invasion.  

[ANON86364]

Just now, ctebah said:

Oh, I forgot, Russia didn't get wrecked at all.....

 

Perhaps Putin sent them over as a first wave of invasion.  

Blame beloved Stalin for the loss of all your people and your economy.

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6 minutes ago, Bryan R. said:

It's an example of how Russian propaganda. And it's outright wrong given the history.

Of how Russia propaganda does what? Propagates? Your first sentence (a fragment) is missing a verb.

[ANON86364]

1 minute ago, Mirumir said:

Of how Russia propaganda does what? Propagates? Your first sentence (a fragment) is missing a verb.

FTFY...

[ctebah]

1 minute ago, Bryan R. said:

Blame beloved Stalin for the loss of all your people and your economy.

Hmm, kinda tough to, he helped liberate my country and then let us be.  One of few nations that didn't end up as a part of the bloc.  Good guy Stalin...

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1 minute ago, Bryan R. said:

FTFY...

Ok, thanks.

[The Evil Overlord]

26 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

 

 

 

Back in the days of the USSR, the Baltic countries used to make cars (my favourite minivan called RAF), the best hi-fi equipment, the best vinyl records, and the best parfumes in the country.

 

Since then, a half of their population is gone to clean toilets in the western europe and all they can export now (besides the people) is canned fish.

 

 

 

LIES!

The best Hi-Fi equipment is made in England!

Now stop saying that, I'm getting butthurt!

[The Evil Overlord]

17 minutes ago, Bryan R. said:

With nukes no less so what's your point.

 

Are you also aware that the US exports defense to it's allies more than anyone else?

At the risk of appearing one sided, that's also one of the oldest tricks in the book, divide and conquer, and if a support nation soldier gets killed (and unfortunately, that does happen) then said nation gets more involved, it's a viscious circle.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Here is that fly By

 

 

[techbeck]

31 minutes ago, Gary7 said:

Do you really think Obama would do  anything about this but draw another imaginary red line that would be crossed 100 times?

No.  And don't think he needs to.  

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15 minutes ago, Gary7 said:

Here is that fly By

And here's another perspective.

 

 

 

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

12 minutes ago, techbeck said:

No.  And don't think he needs to.  

Only responding to this:

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Some of the recent flybys were as close as 30 - 50 feet.  Really hope nothing bad comes out of this.  Last thing we need is another war.

 

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@FloatingFatMan

 

On 5/3/2016 at 10:50 AM, Mirumir said:

File under "NATO needs a boogeyman to justify its very existence".

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The U.S. Army’s War Over Russia

 

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“This is the ‘Chicken-Little, sky-is-falling’ set in the Army,” the senior Pentagon officer said. “These guys want us to believe the Russians are 10 feet tall. There’s a simpler explanation: The Army is looking for a purpose, and a bigger chunk of the budget. And the best way to get that is to paint the Russians as being able to land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. What a crock.”

 

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[restroom]

Wow... Where's the popcorn when you need it!

 

Western citizens posting western articles, putting a bad twist on Russia and Russian citizens posting Russian articles on the same matter, putting a bad twist on the west. Who would have thought that the people posting this ALL believe what they read from their own biased media!? Crazy times guys, crazy!

 

The difference here is obvious. One side knows they are being fed lies and tries to decipher what the truth is and the other side believes there is no way they would be lied to and that their own biased news articles MUST be right! You try to argue with drones, your going to lose!

[MikeChipshop Member]

On 05/05/2016 at 8:25 PM, Mirumir said:

Since then, a half of their population is gone to clean toilets in the western europe and all they can export now (besides the people) is canned fish.

 

It's not our fault they know where they're better off.

[Mando]

On 05/05/2016 at 8:51 PM, ctebah said:

Hmm, kinda tough to, he helped liberate my country and then let us be.  One of few nations that didn't end up as a part of the bloc.  Good guy Stalin...

Hmm perhaps ask all the minorities he stamped out first? Bordering on genocide.

 

Stalins forced famine 1932-1933, 7 million Ukrainians as a starter for 10, he was a maniac, like all other dictators have, are and will be.

By mid 1932, nearly 75 percent of the farms in the Ukraine had been forcibly collectivized. On Stalin's orders, mandatory quotas of foodstuffs to be shipped out to the Soviet Union were drastically increased in August, October and again in January 1933, until there was simply no food remaining to feed the people of the Ukraine.

 

Much of the hugely abundant wheat crop harvested by the Ukrainians that year was dumped on the foreign market to generate cash to aid Stalin's Five Year Plan for the modernization of the Soviet Union and also to help finance his massive military buildup. If the wheat had remained in the Ukraine, it was estimated to have been enough to feed all of the people there for up to two years.

 

or beforehand :-

 

But when Lenin died in 1924, he was succeeded by Joseph Stalin, one of the most ruthless humans ever to hold power.

To Stalin, the burgeoning national revival movement and continuing loss of Soviet influence in the Ukraine was completely unacceptable. To crush the people's free spirit, he began to employ the same methods he had successfully used within the Soviet Union. Thus, beginning in 1929, over 5,000 Ukrainian scholars, scientists, cultural and religious leaders were arrested after being falsely accused of plotting an armed revolt. Those arrested were either shot without a trial or deported to prison camps in remote areas of Russia.

 

Stalin also imposed the Soviet system of land management known as collectivization. This resulted in the seizure of all privately owned farmlands and livestock, in a country where 80 percent of the people were traditional village farmers. Among those farmers, were a class of people called Kulaks by the Communists. They were formerly wealthy farmers that had owned 24 or more acres, or had employed farm workers. Stalin believed any future insurrection would be led by the Kulaks, thus he proclaimed a policy aimed at "liquidating the Kulaks as a class."

 

Not so good guy, Stalin.

 

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

Edited May 17, 2016 by Mando

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35 minutes ago, Mando said:

Hmm perhaps ask all the minorities he stamped out first? Bordering on genocide.

 

Stalins forced famine 1932-1933, 7 million Ukrainians as a starter for 10, he was a maniac, like all other dictators have, are and will be.

By mid 1932, nearly 75 percent of the farms in the Ukraine had been forcibly collectivized. On Stalin's orders, mandatory quotas of foodstuffs to be shipped out to the Soviet Union were drastically increased in August, October and again in January 1933, until there was simply no food remaining to feed the people of the Ukraine.

 

Much of the hugely abundant wheat crop harvested by the Ukrainians that year was dumped on the foreign market to generate cash to aid Stalin's Five Year Plan for the modernization of the Soviet Union and also to help finance his massive military buildup. If the wheat had remained in the Ukraine, it was estimated to have been enough to feed all of the people there for up to two years.

 

or beforehand :-

 

But when Lenin died in 1924, he was succeeded by Joseph Stalin, one of the most ruthless humans ever to hold power.

To Stalin, the burgeoning national revival movement and continuing loss of Soviet influence in the Ukraine was completely unacceptable. To crush the people's free spirit, he began to employ the same methods he had successfully used within the Soviet Union. Thus, beginning in 1929, over 5,000 Ukrainian scholars, scientists, cultural and religious leaders were arrested after being falsely accused of plotting an armed revolt. Those arrested were either shot without a trial or deported to prison camps in remote areas of Russia.

 

Stalin also imposed the Soviet system of land management known as collectivization. This resulted in the seizure of all privately owned farmlands and livestock, in a country where 80 percent of the people were traditional village farmers. Among those farmers, were a class of people called Kulaks by the Communists. They were formerly wealthy farmers that had owned 24 or more acres, or had employed farm workers. Stalin believed any future insurrection would be led by the Kulaks, thus he proclaimed a policy aimed at "liquidating the Kulaks as a class."

 

Not so good guy, Stalin.

 

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

Who in the west supported Lenin & Co. aka Bolsheviks?

[Mando]

1 hour ago, Mirumir said:

Who in the west supported Lenin & Co. aka Bolsheviks?

sorry, but im struggling to see the relevance on your question, What baring it has on on Stalins genocidal tendencies? I'm also struggling to find the link from Lenin and his external supporters to Stalin and his genocidal tendencies to his own people after the death of Lenin.

 

You stated Stalin was a good man, when clearly he wasnt, he was a dictator, never a word used in a nice term for any leader, North, East, South or West sections of planet earth.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2016 by Mando

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20 minutes ago, Mando said:

sorry, but im struggling to see the relevance on your question, What baring it has on on Stalins genocidal tendencies? I'm also struggling to find the link from Lenin and his external supporters to Stalin and his genocidal tendencies to his own people after the death of Lenin.

By the same token, what does Stalin have to do with Putin or the modern day Russia?

 

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You stated Stalin was a good man

Source please.

[restroom]

53 minutes ago, Mando said:

sorry, but im struggling to see the relevance on your question, What baring it has on on Stalins genocidal tendencies? I'm also struggling to find the link from Lenin and his external supporters to Stalin and his genocidal tendencies to his own people after the death of Lenin.

 

You stated Stalin was a good man, when clearly he wasnt, he was a dictator, never a word used in a nice term for any leader, North, East, South or West sections of planet earth.

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

By the same token, what does Stalin have to do with Putin or the modern day Russia?

 

Source please.

Think he confused you with ctebah, who said Stalin liberated his country.