2016 Election Poll


2016 Election Poll  

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  1. 1. Who are you voting for

    • Donald Trump
      25
    • Hillary Clinton
      19
    • Gary Johnson
      2
    • Evan McMullin
      0
    • I'm not sure yet
      3
    • I'm not voting
      2
    • I live in the US but am not allowed to vote.
      2
    • I don't live in the us
      31
  2. 2. I'm not in the US, but IF I could vote in the US election I would vote for ..

    • Donald Trump
      9
    • Hillary Clinton
      22
    • Gary Johnson
      1
    • Evan McMullin
      0
    • I'm Not sure yet
      1
    • I would not vote
      10
    • I live in the US
      38


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Clinton. I don't personally care for her and would've rather had Sanders, but for me I only really care about one issue: the Medicaid expansion. Trump has made it clear he would get rid of the PPACA/ObamaCare -- and that includes rolling back the Medicaid expansion. Clinton has made it clear she would block attempts to repeal ObamaCare. Therefore, I will be voting for her. 

 

So if Trump becomes president, I go back to being uninsured on inauguration day as he repeals ObamaCare -- it's the very first thing Republicans want to do if Trump becomes president.  It's really that simple for me. 

humm vote for the Republican in disguise, or the loud mouth reality star....... tough choice

15 minutes ago, DeusProto said:

Clinton. I don't personally care for her and would've rather had Sanders, but for me I only really care about one issue: the Medicaid expansion. Trump has made it clear he would get rid of the PPACA/ObamaCare -- and that includes rolling back the Medicaid expansion. Clinton has made it clear she would block attempts to repeal ObamaCare. Therefore, I will be voting for her. 

 

So if Trump becomes president, I go back to being uninsured on inauguration day as he repeals ObamaCare -- it's the very first thing Republicans want to do if Trump becomes president.  It's really that simple for me. 

it's not that simple that he takes office and it's repealed..... it would take more then an executive order to repeal it at this point, also dont think clinton wont make it change because she said that on a stump speech.... shes been for "Hilary care" for a while and it is drastically different in opinion then the ACA as it stands now, expect her to make some major changes to it which wont be for the better of the people that make use of the ACA

26 minutes ago, Dutchie64 said:

non-US people seem to have quite a different view on all this ;-)

That's because us Americans know nothing about the outside world or our own country.

On 10/20/2016 at 6:30 AM, shockz said:

I'm picking the lesser of two evils.

Oh I'd just love to read the logic on how you came up with that.

17 minutes ago, DeusProto said:

So if Trump becomes president, I go back to being uninsured on inauguration day as he repeals ObamaCare -- it's the very first thing Republicans want to do if Trump becomes president.  It's really that simple for me. 

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you couldn't afford healthcare before, then you probably shouldn't have put a bunch of money in your PC and who knows what other material luxuries.  Surely you must be a bit worried about the steep cost increases that are coming your way under Obamacare.

 

Not directing this anybody, but I see too many people that complain about not having money, but yet they have a new iPhone, a new car, designer clothes, etc etc.  Too many people have no financial responsibility, but yet they expect the government to feed them the lifestyle they believe they are entitled too...

2 minutes ago, Astra.Xtreme said:

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you couldn't afford healthcare before, then you probably shouldn't have put a bunch of money in your PC and who knows what other material luxuries.  Surely you must be a bit worried about the steep cost increases that are coming your way under Obamacare.

 

Not directing this anybody, but I see too many people that complain about not having money, but yet they have a new iPhone, a new car, designer clothes, etc etc.  Too many people have no financial responsibility, but yet they expect the government to feed them the lifestyle they believe they are entitled too...

 

As someone who watches a lot of Dave Ramsey youtube videos (practically everyone he releases) I think more people need a budget. :)

1 minute ago, warwagon said:

As someone who watches a lot of Dave Ramsey youtube videos (practically everyone he releases) I think more people need a budget. :)

I think more people need to have a savings account, but no one ever seems to listen to that advice either..........

1 minute ago, neufuse said:

I think more people need to have a savings account, but no one ever seems to listen to that advice either..........

 

Correct, and a budget puts you on the right path to save money and not spend it all.

8 minutes ago, neufuse said:

yeah me too, my logic boiled down to I cant vote for either..... president will be getting a null vote from me......

I respect that.  Almost agree with you but there's no way I'm just going to stand by and do nothing and watch another Clinton get into White House.  MAGA 2016.

I can't understand people that won't vote because they don't like either candidate (even voting for 3rd party ones). Like it or not one of these two idiots will become president. When things don't go your way in the near future, remember you didn't vote, therefore you shouldn't complain then.  


I'm voting for Hilary for only one reason. Personality. I was taught to be kind and respect people. That to me alone is more important than anything else. Trump may have some good ideas but they are buried behind all the hate and temper tantrums. He hasn't shown in any way that he is capable to have a reasonable conversation without getting frustrated. I wouldn't want him anywhere near the presidency but that's my opinion anyway. 

 

 

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Let me make this easy,


There is at least 1 supreme court nomination up for grabs with this election and probably more.

 

Do you want conservative supreme court justices (to repeal Abortion and Gay Marriage initially  etc)? Then vote for trump.

Otherwise vote Clinton.

 

Its the future of the supreme court that's at stake and the consequences will be felt for decades.

 

That is by any definition the most important thing about the election.

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No matter how much you may not like Hillary how can you vote for Trump?  Hillary's transgressions lie in the past while Trump by his own statements the past 16 months show that his are still with him.  Trump and his surrogates lie blatantly.  Fact check it.  Even the increase in Obamacare premiums is not what they seem.  Congress when they passed the bill knew that premiums would increase.  Let's not forget most folks will get government subsidies which can reduce premiums to 100 bucks a month.  Trump and his henchmen conveniently fail to mention this.  Just like his boasting of all the Federal organizations that endorse him.  First of all it is illegal for any Federal entity to endorse any candidate.  An example is that all the border patrol officers endorse trump. WRONG!  It's just one union that endorsed him which represents only 25% of Border Patrol people.

 

Trump is a slime ball.  He stiffed the father of a friend of mine who supplied flooring materials and tile for one of his many bankrupt hotels in Atlantic City to the tune of 3.5 million dollars.  Trumps' answer when my friends father tried to collect was 'Sue me'.  Needless to say he couldn't sue due to the expense involved.  So he wound up getting pennies on the dollar and had to declare bankruptcy and get a second mortgage on his house.  Thankfully he managed to weather the storm and the business is now thriving.

 

I'm surprised that Trump hired Kellyanne Conway as his campaign manager.  I would rate her a 3 on the best of days. /s   What a sycophant like all Trump's surrogates.

 

 

19 minutes ago, 0sit0 said:

I'm voting for Hilary for only one reason. Personality. 

 

Hmm.. 

 

While watching Hillary give a speech, I will agree she had a better personality than trump. But I sure as hell won't vote for her JUST because of that.  I can't disagree wither and then turn around and vote for her because she has a good personality. 

 

On the other hand, there are some things about Trump's personality that I actually like. I like the fact about how honest he is and how he doesn't have much of a filter.

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I'm going with Gary Johnson because the two major party candidates are HORRIBLE. (Really America, this is the best you have to offer)

I don't agree with everything Gary Johnson stands for, but I've never agreed with everything any candidate I've voted for has stood for.

Go ahead Clinton fans tell me how I may as well be voting for Trump and Trump fans go ahead and tell me I might as well be voting for Clinton.

 

Here's the thing... if I voted for Clinton and she won and she does things that I HATE then I'll feel responsible because I voted for her.

If I vote for Trump and he wins and he does things I HATE then I'll feel responsible because I voted for him.

I have no doubt in my mind that whoever wins... they're going to do stupid stuff I hate.

 

If I vote for Gary Johnson he's not going to win and so he won't get a chance to do things that I hate.  The same thing would work if I just didn't vote at all but I want my vote counted and I want both major parties to see that number of 3rd party votes people like me cast and know that even though we knew we weren't going to win the choices the major parties gave us were so HORRIBLE we'd rather just "throw away our vote" then pick them.  Plus it's those of us who don't vote and who vote 3rd party that the parties try to attract... they don't have to try to attract people who are going to always vote (D) or (R) because they see those as the only two options and the other option is worse in their mind than the one they always vote for no matter how bad that one might be.

 

I regret voting for George W. Bush the first time.  I don't regret voting for Badnarik the second time.  This will be my second Libertarian Presidential vote since I started voting in 1992.  I really wish Jim Webb had run... I thought he was a great Senator and would have made a much better President then either of the major party candidates we have now... oh well.

 

2 minutes ago, warwagon said:

Hmm.. 

 

While watching Hillary give a speech, I will agree she had a better personality than trump. But I sure as hell won't vote for her JUST because of that.  I can't disagree wither and then turn around and vote for her because she has a good personality. 

 

On the other hand, there are some things about Trump's personality that I actually like. I like the fact about how honest he is and how he doesn't have much of a filter.

Exactly.

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The app is evolving all the time and has made leaps and bounds since I first started reviewing TerraMaster devices almost three years ago. It is not quite there yet if you are comparing the likes of Synology, which, sadly, a lot of users online do all the time. OpenClaw setup One of the main selling points of the new F4-425 Pro is the inclusion of OpenClaw, with TerraMaster claiming that it is "powered by the world's first AI-native TOS 7 OS, supporting local-first smart workflows and independent data control." However, I immediately ran into problems trying to enable OpenClaw. After waiting 20 minutes at the "Enabling" message of the OpenClaw app following installation, I decided to do some searching online and discovered that it couldn't complete the installation process due to SPC being enabled, which is something TOS 7 immediately recommends to be enabled on first boot. SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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