This fit 21-year-old ignored the flu. Then it killed him, mom says

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+Mirumir    5,527
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This fit 21-year-old ignored the flu. Then it killed him, mom says

 

The 21-year-old aspiring personal trainer had gone home for the holidays with “a snotty nose,” his mother recalled. He got worse — was coughing and running a fever. He died soon after.

 

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+warwagon    10,431

I should go to the doctor more often lol, last time I was there was 1997

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sidroc    1,172

Nurse chiming in here. This was more than likely a bacterial pneumonia leading to sepsis, although it is possible for the influenza viruses to lead to sepsis as well. In any case, best advice. 1, Get the flu shot. 2, If your heart rate is >90 at rest, your breaths in 1 minute >20 at rest, and you have a fever, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND SEEK TREATMENT DO NOT DELAY, don't ignore possible signs of sepsis.

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Dot Matrix    7,289
54 minutes ago, warwagon said:

I should go to the doctor more often lol, last time I was there was 1997

What?! No yearly checkups or anything?

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SnoopZ    140

Same here, not been to the Docs in donkeys years, only go if i think i need to the last time was Tonsillitis.

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Jim K    9,557

It is important to get annuals ... even if you believe and feel you are in exceptional health.  Annuals can help find and ultimately prevent problems before they occur (which may not only save you a lot of money down the road ... but also your life).

 

Better safe than sorry ... 

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SnoopZ    140

Depends what is the norm in the country i guess, annuals isn't the norm here, it maybe for pensioners though.

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oldtimefighter    3,066
1 hour ago, sidroc said:

Nurse chiming in here. This was more than likely a bacterial pneumonia leading to sepsis, although it is possible for the influenza viruses to lead to sepsis as well. In any case, best advice. 1, Get the flu shot. 2, If your heart rate is >90 at rest, your breaths in 1 minute >20 at rest, and you have a fever, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND SEEK TREATMENT DO NOT DELAY, don't ignore possible signs of sepsis.

Flu shot? No one wants to hear from medical professionals. We all have the Internet and know immunizations are scams by big medicine.

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+warwagon    10,431
1 hour ago, Dot Matrix said:

What?! No yearly checkups or anything?

Well, I had a small one before my vasectomy in 2015.

 

 

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The Evil Overlord    18,416
2 minutes ago, warwagon said:

Well, I had a small one before my vasectomy in 2015.

That sounds like a personal problem, but don't worry, most women will lie to you, so your ego won't be too badly bruised :p

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+devHead    1,778
1 hour ago, oldtimefighter said:

Flu shot? No one wants to hear from medical professionals. We all have the Internet and know immunizations are scams by big medicine.

Yeah, the Internet - that's the best place to find accurate information.  If you don't get a flu shot and then get the flu, you have yourself to blame.  How exactly are they scams, anyhow?  And please don't use the word 'mercury' in any of your responses.

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Jim K    9,557
1 minute ago, devHead said:

Yeah, the Internet - that's the best place to find accurate information.  If you don't get a flu shot and then get the flu, you have yourself to blame.  How exactly are they scams, anyhow?  And please don't use the word 'mercury' in any of your responses.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.  :) 

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Riva    813

There's a deadly flu epidemic in europe dubbed "Australian flu" i guess it originated from there. Ignoring any cold symptoms is a bad idea these days

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Rohdekill    737

My last doctor visit was my health exam upon getting out of the military, which was in 1998.

Not one health issue since.

I have over a year's worth of sick days saved up at work.  

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oldtimefighter    3,066
1 hour ago, devHead said:

Yeah, the Internet - that's the best place to find accurate information.  If you don't get a flu shot and then get the flu, you have yourself to blame.  How exactly are they scams, anyhow?  And please don't use the word 'mercury' in any of your responses.

Sad that I really needed a /s after that comment.

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+devHead    1,778
3 hours ago, oldtimefighter said:

Sad that I really needed a /s after that comment.

Sorry.  I should have known better.

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branfont    72
8 hours ago, sidroc said:

don't ignore possible signs of sepsis.

And yet, you don't even say what those possible signs are!

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DocM    13,431
9 hours ago, sidroc said:

Nurse chiming in here. This was more than likely a bacterial pneumonia leading to sepsis, although it is possible for the influenza viruses to lead to sepsis as well. In any case, best advice. 1, Get the flu shot. 2, If your heart rate is >90 at rest, your breaths in 1 minute >20 at rest, and you have a fever, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND SEEK TREATMENT DO NOT DELAY, don't ignore possible signs of sepsis.

 

1,000 times this.  If you show the signs of sepsis there's NO room for delay, get to the nearest ER ASAP. 

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+JHBrown    11,462

My nickname used to be, Wilt The Stilt Chamberlain. Other than having a few skin sores, yeast infections, diarrhea, vomiting, and trouble swallowing, I've felt great. Doubt I need a stinking flu shot.

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sidroc    1,172
17 hours ago, branfont said:

And yet, you don't even say what those possible signs are!

Uh, I directly stated them? What do you think those vitals are?

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techbeck    5,562

Not surprising really.  Healthy people drop dead all the time.

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HawkMan    5,225
21 hours ago, oldtimefighter said:

Sad that I really needed a /s after that comment.

well recent research shows that most people(not the risk groups) are actually better getting enough vitamin C than getting the flu shot. then again, if you're not in the risk groups. the flu isn't more than the flu anyway, 

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oldtimefighter    3,066
1 hour ago, HawkMan said:

well recent research shows that most people(not the risk groups) are actually better getting enough vitamin C than getting the flu shot. then again, if you're not in the risk groups. the flu isn't more than the flu anyway, 

What? That is wrong! Are you a medical professional? No? Don't tell people a flu shot is not really necessary. The flu shot is to prevent getting the flu which is enough. Thanks but when I have a crime issue I will ask you for advice.

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oldtimefighter    3,066
2 hours ago, techbeck said:

Not surprising really.  Healthy people drop dead all the time.

This a real comment?

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HawkMan    5,225
2 hours ago, oldtimefighter said:

What? That is wrong! Are you a medical professional? No? Don't tell people a flu shot is not really necessary. The flu shot is to prevent getting the flu which is enough. Thanks but when I have a crime issue I will ask you for advice.

Well, firstly there's the thing that healthy normal (non risk group) people don't die from the flu, they get sick for a few days, and get better. drink fluids.

 

outside of that. before you go attacking people, maybe look up facts about recent research. you don't have to "fight" everyone that informs you about something you didn't know. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38988982

 

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The analysis, published in the British Medical Journal, argues food should be fortified with the vitamin.

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That is more effective than flu vaccination, which needs to treat 40 to prevent one case, although flu is far more serious than the common cold.

 

 

I'm assuming you also know how the flu shot works. that there s no "one" flu. there's a very very wild variety of them, the flu shot protects from a small handful of them. which ones are picked each year is mostly guesswork, at which ones might be big this year, it's almost as good as rolling the dice. if you get the flu shot and then get the flu, you have to be lucky enough to get one of the small percentage of strains it actually protects against. 

 

over here everyone gets the flu shot if they want, it's only really recommended for the risk groups. incidentally, as an asthmatic, I'm in those groups, but for me, the flu shot is useless as my body as it is, is perfectly capable of handling a small case of the flu. 

 

immunization is grreat and necessary, but in the case of the flu, it's over used and generally ineffective. 

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