Mindovermaster Moderator Posted June 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2020 Quote SHocking video from Buffalo, New York was posted online on Thursday after a large group of police confronted a lone protester — and then violently shoved him. “Shortly after Buffalo’s curfew started, city police and State Police swept through the area of Niagara Square directly in front of City Hall to clear the area where a protest was finishing. An unidentified, older man was hit shoved by two officers in the line. The man lost his balance and fell to the pavement, audibly hitting his head with blood running out from under his head,” WBFO-TV reports. Multiple camera angles were captured by local reporters. WKBW-TV’s Jeff Russo reports the Buffalo Police Department spokesperson claimed the man “was injured when he tripped and fell.” Russo disputed the claim. “We had a crew on the scene and after seeing video he clearly was pushed and stumbled backwards,” Russo reported. Source: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/watch-protester-bled-from-his-ear-after-being-shoved-by-police-cops-say-he-tripped/?fbclid=IwAR3U7YbZLQolHa4L8ByI-y2gdT-hhFc9IobBAFzvzT-2PP_DY82bzhrefc8 Police at it again, and not towards a black. SecretAgentMan and +hedleigh 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Account no longer active) Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I don't understand why they still haven't rolled out this technology for crown control (much cheaper and safer); then such scenarios could have been avoided: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 For the rioters ADS would work. So would LRAD (long range acoustic device), which was deployed during the Pittsburgh G20 "protests." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 8, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted June 8, 2020 or, I don't know ... how about law enforcement not shoving a 75-year old man down? wakjak, nerim, Jazmac and 9 others 10 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I'm not justifying what happened nobody deserves this treatment. I am just going to share what I know, this guy is at every protest for every cause imaginable in Buffalo either side of an argument. To my understanding he has engaged the officers before for random reasons over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DoctorD said: I'm not justifying what happened nobody deserves this treatment. I am just going to share what I know, this guy is at every protest for every cause imaginable in Buffalo either side of an argument. To my understanding he has engaged the officers before for random reasons over the years. Whether he's at every protest there is, is still is no excuse for the cops to just walk past him when you can easily see blood after he falls! Doesn't matter whether he tripped, stumbled, or fell on purpose either. Jazmac, nerim and Jumping Jacinta 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, cork1958 said: Whether he's at every protest there is, is still is no excuse for the cops to just walk past him when you can easily see blood after he falls! Doesn't matter whether he tripped, stumbled, or fell on purpose either. I do not disagree I am just relaying what I know. cork1958 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, DoctorD said: I do not disagree I am just relaying what I know. Not to be that guy - but seeing as there's as much fake news as there is real: source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Human.Online said: Not to be that guy - but seeing as there's as much fake news as there is real: source? If the original link from OP doesn't float your boat, how about this one: https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/04/buffalo-cops-shove-elderly-man-hits-head-starts-bleeding/ or this one: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elderly-man-appears-unconscious-bleeding-from-ear-after-shoved-to-ground-by-buffalo-ny-police/ar-BB153ERu Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, cork1958 said: Whether he's at every protest there is, is still is no excuse for the cops to just walk past him when you can easily see blood after he falls! Doesn't matter whether he tripped, stumbled, or fell on purpose either. Some of the videos show tan uniformed officers, prob national guard, kneel down and look at the guy after the officers pushed him. So he was looked at. Looks like the officers who pushed him was going to stop others from coming forward. And be careful at the videos posted online as well. Other cases, I noticed the videos starting right when the incident happened (not showing what led up to the incident) or the videos ending prematurely. (not showing what happened after) Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, cork1958 said: If the original link from OP doesn't float your boat, how about this one: https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/04/buffalo-cops-shove-elderly-man-hits-head-starts-bleeding/ or this one: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elderly-man-appears-unconscious-bleeding-from-ear-after-shoved-to-ground-by-buffalo-ny-police/ar-BB153ERu I think you misread who o was asking for a source. I know this happened and I’m asking for a source on the assertion that “he is always at every protest” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 hours ago, cork1958 said: Whether he's at every protest there is, is still is no excuse for the cops to just walk past him when you can easily see blood after he falls! Doesn't matter whether he tripped, stumbled, or fell on purpose either. If you listen to the audio, within a few seconds of him falling down and bleeding you hear them call out for a medic. Then shortly after two men dressed in military uniform stop. I don't really understand why people think that they just push the guy over and left him there because in the video they clearly did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, Emn1ty said: If you listen to the audio, within a few seconds of him falling down and bleeding you hear them call out for a medic. Then shortly after two men dressed in military uniform stop. I don't really understand why people think that they just push the guy over and left him there because in the video they clearly did not. You can see 2 tan officers stop right after the 2 who pushed the guy walk by. The kept walking (notice one officer stopped the other from checking o the guy) to stop protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 hours ago, DoctorD said: I'm not justifying what happened nobody deserves this treatment. I am just going to share what I know, this guy is at every protest for every cause imaginable in Buffalo either side of an argument. To my understanding he has engaged the officers before for random reasons over the years. 4 hours ago, DoctorD said: I do not disagree I am just relaying what I know. He's been a peaceful protestor for what appears to be decades. Dick Montage, DoctorD, Jumping Jacinta and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted June 8, 2020 Subscriber² Share Posted June 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Emn1ty said: If you listen to the audio, within a few seconds of him falling down and bleeding you hear them call out for a medic. Then shortly after two men dressed in military uniform stop. I don't really understand why people think that they just push the guy over and left him there because in the video they clearly did not. Technically they (the cops) did leave him on the ground did they not? Actually, one cop stopped the other from assisting and instead letting the military to triage the man. If that happened to your father or grandfather would you be outraged that the cop just walked away after shoving him to the ground for no reason? SecretAgentMan, Dick Montage, nerim and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 America's largest gang has been on display over the last few weeks. I am glad more and more are starting to realize we have some of the worst people in positions of power and they are abusing it. timster, +hedleigh, wakjak and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Circaflex said: America's largest gang has been on display over the last few weeks. I am glad more and more are starting to realize we have some of the worst people in positions of power and they are abusing it. Wait until people find out how flat out messed up the court system is across the USA, some judges should wear robes and patches that match their sponsorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Human.Online said: I think you misread who o was asking for a source. I know this happened and I’m asking for a source on the assertion that “he is always at every protest” Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted June 8, 2020 MVC Share Posted June 8, 2020 Why did the 75 year old guy approach the police? It did not look like a "Killer" shove. It did look like a "Back up" shove. Judging by the video it Looked more like he approached the police, the police didn't approach him. Dick Montage, shockz, SecretAgentMan and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 8, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, warwagon said: Why did the 75 year old guy approach the police? It did not look like a "Killer" shove. It did look like a "Back up" shove. Judging by the video it Looked more like he approached the police, the police didn't approach him. Why didn't the cops just take him to the rear like they did a younger protester 15 seconds later? Also, what is a "killer" shove? Any shove can become "killer" if the person loses their balance and whacks their head on a hard substance...such as concrete. They shouldn't have shoved him ... period. +hedleigh, Dick Montage, SecretAgentMan and 5 others 6 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, warwagon said: Why did the 75 year old guy approach the police? What an asinine question. Did he pose a threat to the well armed, well built police officers by approaching them as is his right? +Raze, SecretAgentMan, timster and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, warwagon said: Why did the 75 year old guy approach the police? It did not look like a "Killer" shove. It did look like a "Back up" shove. Judging by the video it Looked more like he approached the police, the police didn't approach him. What does a "killer" shove look like? Are you suggesting only certain shove types of dangerous? exotoxic, SecretAgentMan, adrynalyne and 6 others 9 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, primortal said: Technically they (the cops) did leave him on the ground did they not? Actually, one cop stopped the other from assisting and instead letting the military to triage the man. They immediately call for a medic to help him. Do you want all the officers to stop doing their jobs and help the guy or have the people who's job it is help the guy do the helping? 2 hours ago, primortal said: If that happened to your father or grandfather would you be outraged that the cop just walked away after shoving him to the ground for no reason? I would ask the same questions I am now. Making it personal doesn't help anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYcHoKiLLa Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I cannot believe people on here are actually trying to legitimise police officers in full riot gear shoving a man, probably in his 80's to the ground then showing no concern whatsoever for his health AS HE BLEEDS FROM HIS EAR, they were less than half his age and just strolled off leaving him lying in a pool of his own blood!!! A MAN IN HIS 80'S!!!! What in the hell is wrong with you? What the hell has happened to your country?! Where is the decency? timster, mudslag, +hedleigh and 4 others 5 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said: I cannot believe people on here are actually trying to legitimise police officers in full riot gear shoving a man, probably in his 80's to the ground then showing no concern whatsoever for his health AS HE BLEEDS FROM HIS EAR, they were less than half his age and just strolled off leaving him lying in a pool of his own blood!!! A MAN IN HIS 80'S!!!! What in the hell is wrong with you? What the hell has happened to your country?! Where is the decency? Nothing has happened to our country. D*cks come in all nationalities. nerim and Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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