uniacidz Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 people...if 80MB-250MB is mammoth to you....you need to get the **** off modems and get dsl or cable or better.... :p Get a download manager if have to download using Dialup. As for you, aint mammoth and some people simply dont need ADSL etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I do get a new key every time I purchase a subscription for a new year? I believe you do. Don't hold me to that - I'm not sure ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretforce Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I just think they didnt want to look stupid, because the developers haven?t done much work and they knew it would be cracked easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manksgloob Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Hehe. Well, "If people are using Microsoft's software, chances are they're not using a competitors'." And I also had a condoms-for-teenagers analogy, but I forgot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whYeNQue Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 maybe they want to keep an eye on the pirates "ARRR, shiver me timbers" (sorry, bad joke... i am delerious from revision for exams... excuse me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzz Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 i bet MS has a hidden agenda behind this. I agree!!!! Why would someone go out of their way even a company like Microsoft by possibly losing money but still offering updates for users with non-legit copies. I heard somthing about this earlier where ppl with 401 - 429 in their product IDs wont be able to run it and would get totally locked out of their systems. I bet thats whats going to happen.... But! lets not forget as Microsoft writes software there are non-legit developers working side by side the write cracks and hacks for their software so NOTHING will ever be totally legit. THe buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmerz28 Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 but most that end up with the copy are. I don't know of any friends with a legal copy of it, I'm surprised to know that they even obtained it. Most of the time the Pirated copy has come pre-installed. I had a pirated copy of Windows XP for the better part of two years. My friend had gotten a copy of the CD and a corporate CD Key from one of his brothers friends who worked for the company. People wonder why others would use the pirated software? Because I'm not busting out the $299 or whatever it was at the time for Windows XP Professional. However, I went to college and got both Windows XP Pro & Office XP Pro for $10 each because I was a student...so now I'm on the legit copy. Why go legit? Because it was affordable. And I had SP1 installed on the pirated copy btw ;) I agree!!!! Why would someone go out of their way even a company like Microsoft by possibly losing money but still offering updates for users with non-legit copies. I heard somthing about this earlier where ppl with 401 - 429 in their product IDs wont be able to run it and would get totally locked out of their systems. I bet thats whats going to happen.... But! lets not forget as Microsoft writes software there are non-legit developers working side by side the write cracks and hacks for their software so NOTHING will ever be totally legit.THe buzz Um...I guess you people didn't read the eariler postings. MS would make the patch available for pirated copies so that those using the pirated copies aren't carriers of a bunch of viruses that can potentially spread to legit users computers. They're thinking about the legit users here, kinda like covering the back door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryonhowley Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I think it is better to put there effort into getting as complete a Service pack as possible instead of putting more effort into locking out pirate copy's. The fact is there is allread a crack for the SP2 2120 on the usenet. I remember when Windows XP went RTM (build 2600) there was a full crack for the activation the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I didn't think there was a crack for XP's activation every one who copied it used Corp version with leaked VLK keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootis Spencer Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Reset 5 was a bypass although not a complete removal or bypass of the activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Mr Mustard Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Take a look at the first picture on the Computer Times article, that's where the real piracy is. Demanding/Accepting payment for a product that they did not create (except for the poorly copied box it comes in). :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted May 9, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 9, 2004 weird decision from ms anyway, thats their money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incubusdaemon Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Actually, this isn't altruism on Microsoft's behalf. Consider all of the bad PR Microsoft has had to suffer. Leaving more systems unpatched will just breed more bad PR, which hurts revenue. How many pirates were going to go say 'oh, I can't get SP2, i'm going to buy XP now'? /me thinks this is actually designed to increase revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiXora Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 pirate or not i see loads of unpatches machines because people dont trust ms updates people still think they are just getting hacked ( i met a silly child that thought that about 15 or so ) and some dont know what it is to update ( ex gf has no sp on their pc at all... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirus Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 when I still had windows 98 I never patched. but, then again when you have 60+ MBs to download for updates on dialup, its not an easy task. Even after I patched, windows was less stable than it was w/o patches. Now that I have a cable connection and windows XP Pro (oem, I'm no pirate :ninja:), patches are the greatest (except for the fact that they come so frequently, and there are still bugs ). But he probably didn't update for the same reason as me. Windows was just unstable afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivand Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 slipstream means to integrate the service pack into a cd version of windows, so when you install windows, sp2 is already integrated, no need to download and install it later. Oook, now i get it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCA Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 messed up even for pirated copies. I don't have that i purchased mine from a store (Staples) it's only an upgrade i have a friend that got a pirated copy of xp and put in on his pc and it messes up and deletes it's self from the HD lol. But anyways it's cool that MS is doing this but not for pirated copies of XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 messed up even for pirated copies. I don't have that i purchased mine from a store (Staples) it's only an upgrade i have a friend that got a pirated copy of xp and put in on his pc and it messes up and deletes it's self from the HD lol. But anyways it's cool that MS is doing this but not for pirated copies of XP What are you talking about?:huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer of STUFF Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I dont think its a very surprising move, (Other than SP1 no other service pack for Windows has really had much by the way of anti-piracy methods) And SP2 ever since blaster has been all about security, and the most logical decision is to make the entire system seem more secure especially with all these people getting infected with blaster and sasser who never had issues with 98 or ME. But I think we're all missing the point here.... Microsoft's reason for a decision wasn't soley based on money, but actually for the common good!!!!!!! ....maybe Bill actually saved up enough money to buy his soul back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivand Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Finaly MS i thinking on aything else but money... and Killer ofSTUFF, i doubt that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
905punk Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Pirated or not Windows is a product of Microsoft and if you've got 1 million legit updated copies of xp that arent infected....but 750,000 pirated ones that are infected it still looks bad on Microsoft cuz those pirated copies are technically still Windows users. So...if a legit user that just hasnt patched gets infected cuz a non-legit user is infected...well in the long wrong its better if EVERYONE can patch. Legit or not a computer running Windows can spread viruses. Just think if all the FCKGW (Corp) Copies of XP had the Blaster patch would it have still spread that bad?...prolly would have but still :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aten Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 microsoft is sad :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaperMan Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 microsoft is sad :laugh: :laugh: :spam: and you get spam of the day award for your outstanding input into this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lime Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 i know my brother and i both use corporate keys and neither of us have sp1 or sp1a or anything and our comps are just fine :D i think it's a smart thing for them to do, they stop virus spreading and a service pack doesn't really cost them money if pirated versions get it....unless they expect pirates to fork over money just to get the sp2..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted May 10, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2004 i know my brother and i both use corporate keys and neither of us have sp1 or sp1a or anything and our comps are just fine :D Well good for you :pirate: :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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