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I don't really identify with people complaining that playing a solo kinda sucks in a multiplayer game kinda sucks. This game rewards social-organization in PvE, the meta games like AH-control, PvP, even role-players have more fun when they have others to do it with.

"My pug gets stomped by others in WSG! It takes forever to get new bracers" sounds almost identical to "My pug gets stomped by Winterchill in Hyjal! It takes forever to get new bracers".

One thing I do know: queue times suck for everyone. Switch things around and imagine if solo=queue people had to wait longer to play and that would be lame. I don't get any joy from hearing that the game has become worse for some group of people (apart from those breaking the ToS like ebayers, gold sellers, botters, cheaters, etc)

bit of a nooby question but what mods/addons do i need to change the chat log and also the map. Would like to make the log smaller or move it to a diff place, and also do the same with the map, maybe make it square and move to bottom.

Currently use bartender3 or whatever for all the action button arrangements etc

thanks for the link bud

basically i want to move the chat window, dont like where it is placed at the moment, have come accross prat before but again im too inexperienced to use it properly haha. Would rather have it placed slightly lower than where it is.

I also tried a ready made Interface but it went horribly wrong, maybe it is my laptop res 1280x800 :(

Moving a chat window is really simple and doesn't require a mod. Right click the first chat tab, and click Unlock Window. Move it to where you want, then right click and and click lock window.

quality, thanks mate UI looks a lot nicer than before finally i can see more too :D

Hey there,

I'm looking for a VERY descriptive (graphs, charts, spreadsheets) reasoning/guide to Beast Mastery. I've leveled beast mastery and have tried to find all the best/worst things about the spec to fully understand the significance of it all compared to Marksmanship and Survival. I know all the basics and know that BM > MM in PvE and even World PvP, But battle grounds where your pet is more of a kamakazie than a mercenary MM > BM. I also have been taught that high end raiding calls for Survival hunters with 800+ agi (38%-42%) crit. I'm only 66 now, and can hit for over 4k on a crit multishot.

Anyway, any help/links would be good, I've checked out Elitist Jerks and they have a lot of good stuff there.

Thank you,

Hey there,

I'm looking for a VERY descriptive (graphs, charts, spreadsheets) reasoning/guide to Beast Mastery. I've leveled beast mastery and have tried to find all the best/worst things about the spec to fully understand the significance of it all compared to Marksmanship and Survival. I know all the basics and know that BM > MM in PvE and even World PvP, But battle grounds where your pet is more of a kamakazie than a mercenary MM > BM. I also have been taught that high end raiding calls for Survival hunters with 800+ agi (38%-42%) crit. I'm only 66 now, and can hit for over 4k on a crit multishot.

Anyway, any help/links would be good, I've checked out Elitist Jerks and they have a lot of good stuff there.

Thank you,

I would go MM for end game content/raids/even 5-10 mans.

Or maybe survival? Not familiar with survival.

I'd grab a pet turtle/boar to go with MM, as one of the high armor/health pets can offtank/tank potentially for long enough to save a wipe/get you out of trouble.

Especially a turtle with shell shield.

As when you go MM, your pets survival rate drops, so to compensate, you take one of the stronger pets in defence/health.

Of course you can always just go MM, and take an attacking pet and let it chew away on mobs, but IMO end game it's better to have more escape options/backup options as damage will be done by players, not pets.

Hey there,

I'm looking for a VERY descriptive (graphs, charts, spreadsheets) reasoning/guide to Beast Mastery. I've leveled beast mastery and have tried to find all the best/worst things about the spec to fully understand the significance of it all compared to Marksmanship and Survival. I know all the basics and know that BM > MM in PvE and even World PvP, But battle grounds where your pet is more of a kamakazie than a mercenary MM > BM. I also have been taught that high end raiding calls for Survival hunters with 800+ agi (38%-42%) crit. I'm only 66 now, and can hit for over 4k on a crit multishot.

Anyway, any help/links would be good, I've checked out Elitist Jerks and they have a lot of good stuff there.

Thank you,

Well, there's not much to say about beast mastery, it's fairly easy, just follow these guidelines.

Pet: Get either a ravager or a cat. Teach them Bite, Claw and Growl, with Growl being turned on only when farming/grinding. Ravagers dont have Claw, so use Gore for them. Also get Cobra Reflexes, increases your pets attack speed.

Weapon: Always try getting a weapon with a speed between 2,6 and 2,8. Your ranged attack speed should be around 2.05 or lower. (to achieve good steady shot + auto shot rotations)

Shot rotation: Use a macro for firing shots, it's far more efficient. You get to concentrate on more important things (than timing your shots perfectly, without a macro -.-), and your dps WILL increase. You have to spam it though, so it gets boring very quickly.

Unless you're going to PvP, there is no point in being any other spec. Sure, it can be viable, but you wont be able to reach the same dps and will gimp your group/raid. Survival can be good with 800+agi (tried it out myself), but you lose a lot of your personal dps, and will have tons of talents which are useless in a raid. MM is probably the worst raiding spec. It's fine in 5-mans where you can use multishot, but in raids it's useless. It has huge mana issues, and the extra attack power doesn't mean that much, rotations are more complex, and even with perfect timing you can't possibly reach the same dps as Beast mastery.

I've seen tons of hunters who were ignorant and didn't want to spec BM until they reached Black Temple. Why? Because as MM, they noticed that with Black Temple haste gear their dps improved. BM gets 20% haste for free :)

I would go MM for end game content/raids/even 5-10 mans. Or maybe survival? Not familiar with survival.

Until you have access to Tier 6 or better BM is going to be the best spec. Marksman starts closing the gap when you get nearly finished the game. For the most part survival hunters are the equivalent of a 23/38/0 holy priest or retribution paladin: you bring one for the raid buff and that's the end of that.

damage will be done by players, not pets.

A BM hunter's pet should provide about about 10-12% of their total damage on a "spread, run, move, phase-change, holy-crap" fight like Illidan, Leothas, or Mulgore*. On a tank'n'spank like Bloodboil, Tidewalker, or Magtheridon* a properly played pet can contribute nearly 1/5th of a hunter's damage.

I'd grab a pet turtle/boar to go with MM, as one of the high armor/health pets can offtank/tank potentially for long enough to save a wipe/get you out of trouble.

I'm not sure what sort of end-game you're doing but in the stuff I've run a hunter pet isn't going to off-tank anything for longer than it takes a mob's swing-timer to reset. There's even if your pet didn't get one-shot, it's still not tanking anything long enough to matter.

At end game even healers can put out ~2000 threat/second on some fights: pets aren't holding a mob that can burst 40k damage on a 15k armor target long enough to show up in Target of Target.

* Pick the example appropriate to your place in raid progression.

Ok Im sure that all people that play World Of Warcraft have seen the new, advertisement that comes up before you go into wow.. If not when I went to play wow there was an advertisement saying that wow is being brought to the console and will be called World of Warcraft Molten Core... here is a link to it have a look and tell me what you think about it. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/moltencore/

I personally think that if there seriously going to make it and it looks like those screen shots... major flop for Blizzard!!

Ok Im sure that all people that play World Of Warcraft have seen the new, advertisement that comes up before you go into wow.. If not when I went to play wow there was an advertisement saying that wow is being brought to the console and will be called World of Warcraft Molten Core... here is a link to it have a look and tell me what you think about it. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/moltencore/

I personally think that if there seriously going to make it and it looks like those screen shots... major flop for Blizzard!!

LOL @ Skinnig a bear would aggro all the bears within 40 yards. :laugh:

Lame. Once again Blizzard gives welfare epics to keep the commoners happy. Next thing you know, all these goons are going to be running around in the same gear as me and nobody will know I'm super hardcore because their gear is just as good. Casual players don't deserve good gear and they don't deserve to have fun either! Fie on the proletariat! If everyone has epics who stare at my gear when I walk around a major city?

Watch the video where they show the Domo or Shaz fight (hard to say which one): no adds! Also, the defining characteristic of molten core?hours of soul-crushing trash?has been removed. Once again Blizzard nerfs the PvE so that casuals can have their welfare epics. It completely trivializes the weeks of raiding it took me to get Benediction! My virtual accomplishments mean nothing now! Nothing!

I need some help... Problem I have just started a new character Orc warrior level 64 almost 65, when I log on and see him standing there so stock like and ugly. ( so used to playing 70s but it was time for a re-roll).

I though that I had A) been playing the warrior way to much and that I just got board of it or B) I hate to level and new character and only took me till now to figure out how Bull!@$@$ it is to level a new character..

What should I do, any pointers or anything you personally did to keep you leveling when the going got tough?

The thing about wow is that its a grind fest constantly. You first deal with the leveling grind, then once you hit 70 you start the PvP and/or PvE grind.

I know how you feel about warriors, I leveled two. It was the most mindless thing I have ever experienced in a game to date. Then once you hit 70, it pays off by getting 8k execute crits and 6k mortal strike crits.

I would suggest you just sit tight, finish leveling and go from there. Blizzard has made it very easy to get gear these days which is a plus :D.

Got some of my lost items back today.

Poor show though, poor show.

Basically Blizzard just gave me back what was in my bank, not the 60 odd items that were in my bag. I got none of my 900G back either :(

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