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[Shaun N.]

I've seen big high end guild split up into "more raiding orientated" guilds

[Spookie]

Ya S2 becomes "welfare"!

Anyone else server's expereincing guild breakups. IE, 2nd and 3rd top progress guild on my server have broken up. Leaving a Horde guild on Twins (who've been around for so long, I don't see them ever breaking up) and an Alliance guild in 2nd currently wiping on Felmyst.

Happens during the summer people get burn out. Expect them to reform for the expansion or move on to WAR in a couple of months. A couple of guilds on my server are ticking over, waiting on WAR/WotLK while making name for them selfs in AoC.

[the evn show]

Brutallus is the new Vael. Even if you kill him, a couple of bad wipes at the start of the week

really drags down morale. After that you have the joy of getting face-pounded by Felmyst

(and I assume Sisters, M'uru, and Kil'Jaeden though I've never done those fights).

Of the top 5 on our server - 2 went down and 2 look shaky?all of which had kills in Sunwell.

It's really weird to do /who sunwell and see "0 players". The middle-teir guilds are doing

very well: they have a fairly regular supply of experienced and well geared raiders from the top

teir guilds coming to help them in BT/Hyjal. As far as I know we haven't had a new Illidan kill

in a few months but there are now quiet a few that have made 5/5 and 5/9.

Right now, life kinda sucks for the top end guilds but it's pretty good for the middle teir.

[Prosidius]

The 2 most progresed horde guilds on my server disbanded recently. I think our server holds the record for guild disbands since it seems they disband every week now.

[Slane]

Woot woot! Malacrass down. 3rd night of serious attempts, and we finally got him. Feral druid got the staff, and I got Heartless. Felt good to down him. Hopefully we can go back into ZA tommorow with a fresh timer and down all animal bosses and Malacrass to have all of Saturday for attempts on him. :)

[SMELTN]

thats awesome Slane. Good job.

Speaking of ZA, have you seen the guilds selling the bear mount? 4k gold + on our server..

My guild has a primary bear run on Tuesdays, we have 12 bears now, and we have a alt run or second run on Friday nights for the bear. I have been taking my rogue on that one, lots of fun to have to rush to do 4 bosses in less than 45 mins.

[the evn show]

I agreed to help some friends run ZA for the bear. There are usually 2 of us with Tier 6 gear, 2 or 3 in full vengeful + random ZA drops for PVE stats, and then the a few 10-man+welfare geared people to fill out the spots. Apart from the people in Tier 6 they haven't really seen a raid past Magtheridon. The gear check isn't nearly as bad as I first suspected: it's super easy mode with a full group of tier 6 but I think a large part of that is the T6 people have a heck of a lot of raid experience and knowledge that your typical Kara/SSC/TK group just hasn't picked up yet.

So far we're 3 bears out of 5 runs. Having a mage DC inside mid-way through last nights run during the dragonhawk trash set us back a fair but we still pulled the final boss with 4 minutes on the clock (not enough, but really close).

I think we're pretty close to being able to sell - just need a few more weeks to perfect our strategies for short-handed runs and collect a few more bears for the people in the group.

We've had offers for as much as 10k so I think it's a very viable option. I'm interested in trying to farm sunmotes. I think 10-15 could probably handle the trash to kalecgos and if you could land 2-3 sunmotes you'd make about the same amount of cash + a chance at trash epics/patterns.

[Slane]

You should get 9 people, and try the 45 minute run then. See how it turns out, so regardless of what class/gear you bring you can clear it. And I heard of people in groups of 10-15 farming trash in Sunwell for patterns/drops. I'm sure you could get some, might take a bit to learn, though.

Apprantly another guild on my server disbanaded, and were absorbing some of those people. This should put us back into 25 mans, and hopefully all teh people that have gone MIA lately will appear back on. So ZA might get pushed off, for some attempts Gruul/Mag, which I'd rather do than ZA.

[SMELTN]

I'm interested in trying to farm sunmotes. I think 10-15 could probably handle the trash to kalecgos and if you could land 2-3 sunmotes you'd make about the same amount of cash + a chance at trash epics/patterns.

We farm sunmotes with about 15 people. Farm trash all the way up to Kalec usually on an off night, when we get done with ZA or Kara on alts.

[Argi]

So we had a really painful 11% wipe on M'uru last week (poor quality, didn't bother too much with the video). Everything's going perfect then entire raid dies in around 3 seconds towards the end. Working on him again so probably looking at a kill this week. :D

[Slane]

Wow, I thought Evn, or the Rage guy was furthest in progression on Neowin. Hope you can get him down Chaos. Make a good video though, he's defiently my favorite fight, wish I could see him.

Guild finally stepped into Gruul tonight. 23 manned 1-shot Mauglar. Getting me my new shoulders. Putting me less than 200 health away from 16k unbuffed, and I don't have a deck trinket yet. 2-shotted Gruul, with main tank going down at 8%, me lasting till 1% at growth 18. He dropped the shield, MT had higher priority than me and the fact I got token early, so meh. Hopefully next week we down, him and I can get that or ZA run gives me the shield from there. Went to go work on Mag. Intresting fight, Saturday it looks like him, so hopefully we can down him, I get my title, and we can jumped into T5 content.

[Argi]

4% wipe....

Edit: DEAD :D US 41st

Edited June 13, 2008 by chAos972

[Argi]

New Wrath of the Lich King Build Out

CHANGELOG

Highlights

Hit Rating, Critical Strike Rating, and Haste Rating now modify both melee attacks and spells.

Spellpower: All items and effects which grant bonuses to spell damage and spell healing are being consolidated into a single stat, Spellpower. This stat will appear with the same values found on items which grant “increased spell damage and healing” such as on typical Mage and Warlock itemization. For classes which do not heal, they should see no change in the character sheet other than new tooltip wording. Healing characters will see their bonus healing numbers on the character sheet decrease, however, all healing spells have been modified to receive more benefit from spellpower than they received from bonus healing, with a net effect of no change to the amount healed by their spells. Some talents have had to be rebalanced to accommodate this change, but the amount healed will remain roughly the same. In addition, some talents will provide only healing spell power.

ROGUE STUFF

Rogues get Omnislash from Dota, wow... lol. Cheat death nerfed to scale with resiliance. Shadow dance WTF hax.

Sub Tree

Combat Tree

Assisnation Tree

SHAMAN STUFF

Thunder:

Instant - 45 second cooldown

You call down a bolt of lighting, energizing you and damaging nearby enemies within 10 yards. Restores 5% mana to you and deals 595 to 679 nature damage to all nearby enemies, knocking them back 20 yards.

Improved Shamanistic Rage - 2 points - When under the effects of Shamanistic Rage, you have a 50%/100% chance to be cause you to be immune to all stun, snare, and movement impairing effects.

Weapon Specialization -

Axe - Increases the critical strike damage bonus by 5%/10%/15%/20%/25%.

Mace - Has a 1%/2%/3%/4%/5% chance to increase your melee haste by 10% for 15 seconds.

First - Attacks from your fist weapons have a 1%/2%/3%/4%/5% chance to reduce the armor of your target by 20% for 6 seconds.

Edited June 13, 2008 by chAos972

[Nerve]

Anyone else heard that warriors will be able to dual-wield 2handers as Arms last talent in WoTLK?

They are already overpowered...

[Dotdot]

Anyone else heard that warriors will be able to dual-wield 2handers as Arms last talent in WoTLK?

They are already overpowered...

I smell BS!

[Nerve]

I smell BS!

I hope I smell BS, there have been alot of rumors anyway.

[SMELTN]

I hope I smell BS, there have been alot of rumors anyway.

Its not BS, its true. You can put your Off hand in your main hand, but it reduces the speed by a %

[Argi]

It's not a rumor. It's the 2nd top tier fury talent.

http://wotlkwiki.info/warrior

[HostileGamer]

I have a question, and it might have been asked already but I dont want to go through 200 some odd pages to look. I was wondering if there was a gadget for windows sidebar to see if I have in game mail? I dont like to just log on to see if my stuff sold, I would just like to see a mail icon pop up in windows. I know it would require me to put in my account user.pass but I didnt know if it was possible or if Blizz had to do something on their end. Anyways if not could some of you post some cool gadgets for wow to put on my sidebar? I saw the one with realm status, but thats gay. My realm is up 99% of the time. Crushridge FTW!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...dge&n=Revif

[Argi]

I have a question, and it might have been asked already but I dont want to go through 200 some odd pages to look. I was wondering if there was a gadget for windows sidebar to see if I have in game mail? I dont like to just log on to see if my stuff sold, I would just like to see a mail icon pop up in windows. I know it would require me to put in my account user.pass but I didnt know if it was possible or if Blizz had to do something on their end. Anyways if not could some of you post some cool gadgets for wow to put on my sidebar? I saw the one with realm status, but thats gay. My realm is up 99% of the time. Crushridge FTW!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...dge&n=Revif

Nah, there isn't. Blizzard hasn't provided any API to access in-game functions outside of the game. Realm status is possible because that's taken from the status page on the Blizzard website.

[HostileGamer]

Boo!

[SMELTN]

yeah it would be awesome if Blizz actually took advantage of out of game stuff, but at the same time, do you know how many idiots would download some random thing and put in their username and pass.. get their account jacked, then blame blizzard for it, and want all of their items restored..

So not going to happen

[Slane]

It's not a rumor. It's the 2nd top tier fury talent.

http://wotlkwiki.info/warrior

Wow, those warrior talents look all ****ed up.

Fury warr's dual wielding 2 2handers? High burst dmg much?

Shockwave sounds intresting but top talent in Protection? How many raid bosses can actually be stunned? Zero, maybe 1? Would it still cause high threat even without the stun effect? WTH? I'm not liking the looks of those trees.

[Sethos]

Funny, the exact same thing was floating around before the BC release, Warriors dual wielding 2handers :rolleyes:

[obiwong]

Wow, those warrior talents look all ****ed up.

Fury warr's dual wielding 2 2handers? High burst dmg much?

Shockwave sounds intresting but top talent in Protection? How many raid bosses can actually be stunned? Zero, maybe 1? Would it still cause high threat even without the stun effect? WTH? I'm not liking the looks of those trees.

lol ya that's messed up

i hope rogues get to tie daggers to our helmets so we can quad wield weapons