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When this happened to me I had to fax Blizz a copy of my drivers license and SIN card to prove it was me, then they reset my password.

Honestly I didn't want to send them my SIN number as that is the equivalent to a social insurance number in the US, and I don't even think they are allowed to ask you for that here in Canada ... anyways, I wanted my account back so I had to do it. :(

All you should have had to do is call and read them off the primary accounts key. When I updated my Droid I was in such a rush I killed my authenticator too, but I just called and gave them my key and they removed it right then.

Took about an hour total.

Any idiot can play soccer, hop-scotch, or street fighter II, and that doesn't make the game less fun. IMO a good game should be easy to pick up and play but difficult to master and I think there's still some element of that left.

The major change is that there's relatively little difference between someone in a middle of the road guild (say 55th percentile) and someone closer to the top (80 percentile). In TBC that was the difference between karazhan loot and a reasonably complete set of Tier 5 with some early Tier 6, today it's going to come down to a ring and some boots. If you want to stand out in the WoTLK crowd you need to be top-10% and to be really exceptional you need to be top-1%, in that sense it's much closer to real life where nobody cares about the difference between a C- and B+ student, it's only the people with As that earn accolades. The challenging content is still there, it's just not as plentiful and for 99% of the player base it'll never matter because most of them would never have seen it anyway. If there's a complaint to be made about the difficulty of raids it's that to get to the fun stuff you have to slog through a metric ass load of trivial content but that was true for most of TBC too and it was even worse then.

I'm not sure you understand my complaint about this. You're right, the challenging content is still there. Unfortunately almost all of the actually challenging content is challenging because you are "mounted" and all your hard work for 80 levels is thrown out the window. Even then, how is it fun to go through a sludge of crap to get to the challenging stuff? At least in TBC the instances on the way were fun and unique.

That's a good thing. It's lame that the most challenging content is basically off limits to anybody lacking a disc priest and holy paladin. It sucked cancelling Sunwell because we only have 4 shaman or only 3 priests. Is playing a mage fun because you're the only one that can spell steal and tank on council? Is the fun part of being a shaman that you can hit bloodlust and nobody else can?

You didn't do raids because of your group layout? My guild worked around the "requirements" and beat them anyways. They were NOT requirements, they were recommended groups. If everybody's doing their job and you work as a team, you can beat TBC using the "un-required" groups. Not ONCE has my guild not done a raid because of missing classes, or even because a crucial member was missing (hell, sometimes we beat a boss we were banging our heads on without said crucial member). I want each class to FEEL like it's own class like it used to.

You do about 120 more quests levelling from 70-80 than you did from 60-70, that says nothing at all about the overlap of quests so lets just take the numbers at face value: there's 25% more quests to level. Of course if you dislike quests it's entirely reasonable to level exclusively in battlegrounds or in dungeons now and unlike previous expansions you can intersperse questing and battlegrounds/dungeons without being forced to stand around town waiting for a group that many never form.

After level 15 you never have to quest again if you don't enjoy it: use the dungeon finder or battlegrounds. If you don't like PVP, or dungeons, or questing - maybe it's time to find another game.

I LOATHE PVP, but I have leveled a character to 43 so far using strictly the dungeon finder. It's not that I hate questing per se, I just hate the repetitive grind of doing them. There's only like 5 varieties of quests to do. In Wrath they even made it so you can't really stack quests as well as you could before. You're constantly running back and forth across the map.

Inserting a new class doesn't really make much sense without a roll for it to fill. If your complaint is that classes are too similar today, how does adding yet another one help that situation? It'll need to fill one of the typical rolls (healing, tanking, melee/ranged dps) and will necessarily borrow aspects from other classes.

Not that it matters, you couldn't play the new class either because you're out of character slots.

I mentioned the need for more character slots because PEOPLE WANT THEM. There's people with 2 or 3 accounts simply because they want more character slots. I'm not one of them, but it wouldn't be so hard for them to throw us a bone and give us all 2 or 3, or even 5 more. It's not like they're not rankign in truckloads of cash every month.

As far as inserting a new class: ya, there really isn't a role to fill. There used to be, and now that all the characters are so similar, then no, there isn't a role to fill. Still, wouldn't you be interested in a new class or 2? Even just to go through the new Azeroth? I've gone through with every class so far and I don't really want to level a second of something just to go through the content.

What'd you have to do to get them to remove the authenticator from your account?

I just filled in the webform for security, had to put in my original WoW CD Key and answer my secret question. That was all.

On another note, think I'll just farm Strat for Deathcharger again and make some gold whilst waiting on the new patch to hit. I'm at 150 runs or something laugh.gif 2 orbs of deception and the sword so far, no mount.

All you should have had to do is call and read them off the primary accounts key. When I updated my Droid I was in such a rush I killed my authenticator too, but I just called and gave them my key and they removed it right then.

Took about an hour total.

Hmm, maybe they just thought I was a WOW terrorist or something lol.

Hmm, maybe they just thought I was a WOW terrorist or something lol.

If you sound like you generally don't know whats going on, or it takes you some time over the phone to find information they generally just assume the worse.

Take note, that Blizzard is pelted with hackers non-stop. Sucks when you are the number #1 popularity MMO in the world, so the measures they take are purely in your best interest.

If you sound like you generally don't know whats going on, or it takes you some time over the phone to find information they generally just assume the worse.

Take note, that Blizzard is pelted with hackers non-stop. Sucks when you are the number #1 popularity MMO in the world, so the measures they take are purely in your best interest.

Yeah I think the issue was I couldn't remember my original CD Key, as I threw it out a looong time ago thinking I would never need it. Oh well, at least I am back in my account patiently waiting for Cataclysm.

Say guys, if I cancel my subscription now and wait 'til cataclysm pre-launch event then reactivate it, do I lose the remaining game time that I have now ? (short on shinies so gotta manage this so I don't miss the cata pre-launch event). And does reactivation take a long time or is it instant ?

Thanks :)

@Solth, Is that TukUI ?

Say guys, if I cancel my subscription now and wait 'til cataclysm pre-launch event then reactivate it, do I lose the remaining game time that I have now ? (short on shinies so gotta manage this so I don't miss the cata pre-launch event). And does reactivation take a long time or is it instant ?

Thanks :)

@Solth, Is that TukUI ?

If you cancel it right this moment, you have all the play time to use until your renewal date. So you can continue to play even after cancelling as long as you have time. And re-activation is instant.

Because you could hearth there for quick access to the portals anywhere in the world. By removing them you have to fly around on your own.

^This. Everyone is in Dalaran or Orgrimmar on my realm. No one hardly uses Undercity, unless it's a bot Auction House toon.

Because you could hearth there for quick access to the portals anywhere in the world. By removing them you have to fly around on your own.

They want you to do this as they want you to see the new 'old world' for all it's worth.

I think it's a good idea, maybe it will stop Dalaran from being so overcrowded now. :p

Unfortunately almost all of the actually challenging content is challenging because you are "mounted" and all your hard work for 80 levels is thrown out the window.

Lich King hard mode is challenging and has nothing to do with being mounted. I think you could make similar arguments for No Lights Yogg, Mimiron, and three tree Freya as well as some of the meta achievements (dedicated insanity, herald of the titans, tribute to immortality).

If you're into PVP: defeating a 2700-rated team is challenging.

What mounted content are you talking about, and what parts of TBC instances did you find unique and interesting? We used to make a game of explaining the content in terms of fights from Classic. Most encounters have just been a rehash of stuff we saw years ago.

You didn't do raids because of your group layout?

Absolutely. Doing Felmyst with three priests wasn't possible: there aren't enough GCDs to get gas nova off your raid before people started to die. Doing reverse twins (the good loot version) wasn't realistic without 11±1 healers depending on how long you'd been farming Sunwell.

You weren't doing M'uru without at least one shadow priest because holy priests didn't have the hit to ensure they got every skull, nor the free GCDs to cast it anyway. Given how long and brutal Phase 1 is, I don't know of any guild that wasn't using 2 shadow priests. If you weren't dripping in sunwell gear then you weren't beating Brutallas without a good collection of shamans (and leatherworkers). Etc. Etc. Etc. You're not talking about TBC content after Patch 3.0 are you?

In my comment above I was talking specifically about the heroic Lich King encounter (10-man edition). Have you killed him without a disc priest/holy paladin? Have you done dedicated insanity without a hunter? Herald without a shaman? If so, I'd love to see a screenshot.

Personally I don't see the big deal with leaving portals open in Shatrah or Dalaran, although I do hate going into Dalaran because of the amount of lag compared to going to some other major city. Any idea if they are ever going to do anything with that closed off instance in Stormwind that has been there forever??

On Draka.. Undercity is a Ghost town, no pun intended.

Indeed, Undercity was dead the last time I was there, well compared to Orgimar. The same with Exodar compared to Stormwind or Ironforge on the Alliance side. After the expansion this will change though.

Personally I don't see the big deal with leaving portals open in Shatrah or Dalaran, although I do hate going into Dalaran because of the amount of lag compared to going to some other major city. Any idea if they are ever going to do anything with that closed off instance in Stormwind that has been there forever??

Indeed, Undercity was dead the last time I was there, well compared to Orgimar. The same with Exodar compared to Stormwind or Ironforge on the Alliance side. After the expansion this will change though.

Cant see people going to Exodar or Darnassus, I feel SW and IF are still going to be the big boys, the first 2 are always empty. Only way people will go there is if there is "Something" there or if they are "easy" to get too, they do seem to be a bit remote from IF and SW, flying mounts might make it easier, one thing I was going to ask seen as though im not on Beta, can one fly from One Continent to another?

one thing I was going to ask seen as though im not on Beta, can one fly from One Continent to another?

No you cannot, the Fatigue bar will appear eventually however, there is an Actual limit to the world and you will hit and invisible wall that will prevent you from going any further.

Cant see people going to Exodar or Darnassus, I feel SW and IF are still going to be the big boys, the first 2 are always empty. Only way people will go there is if there is "Something" there or if they are "easy" to get too, they do seem to be a bit remote from IF and SW, flying mounts might make it easier, one thing I was going to ask seen as though im not on Beta, can one fly from One Continent to another?

Darnassus is mah home town boyo.

Hang around there all the time when Im on my 80's.

..

Maybe because my main is an elf..and its an RP server.

*shrug*

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