DerkPY Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 What are the long term effects of smoking cannabis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted May 21, 2002 Administrators Share Posted May 21, 2002 You die from lung cancer (or a cancer related disease) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastGodSupreme Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 the most obvious would be lung damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 21, 2002 Author Share Posted May 21, 2002 What else, I know about lung damage, but what about other stuff. I read some were that it olters your brain chemistary, and that doesn't sound to good, for a drug which isn't meant to be that bad, after all, they were thinking about legalising it here in the UK and it is all ready legal in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 21, 2002 Author Share Posted May 21, 2002 Title: Marijuana: Health Effects Author: Sara Macintosh Publisher: Do It Now Foundation Publication Date: 10/01 Catalog Number: 126 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fact Attack One problem in sorting out fact from fiction about marijuana is that the "facts" keep changing into fictions. Need some examples? Try these: In the 1930's, a "fact" everyone knew (or thought they did) was that pot was the dreaded "assassin of youth," a one-way ticket to a life of crime, madness, and despair. By the '60s, that "fact" morphed into a brand-new, mirror-image "fact." Now pot was seen only as a "harmless giggle," maybe not actually good for you, but at least it didn't do any real harm ? like such legal drugs as alcohol and tobacco. In the early '80s, things started changing again. Conservatism was cool again (supposedly), and a whole new set of "facts" was produced to justify a nationwide campaign against a born-again "assassin of youth." Today, the facts about marijuana are changing again. It's not that there aren't still a lot of opinions out there, masquerading as facts. It's just that a growing body of scientific research is out there, too, and it's gradually starting to squeeze out all the fake little "facts" that have confused the issue for so long. It's a good thing, too. Because a lot of the new facts really are facts, this time around. And they're worth thinking about if you're thinking about ? or on ? pot. What's new about marijuana today? A lot. But quite a bit has stayed the same. Because even though people have been using the marijuana (or hemp) plant, Cannabis sativa, in medicine and manufacturing for at least 5,000 years, it's better known for its recreational drug uses. Nothing new about that. Not much new in another fact, either: Pot is still the most-used illegal drug in America. More than 71 million Americans have tried it, according to national surveys, and about 11 million smoke it regularly. What they keep coming back to is a swirl of sensation and fog of intoxication that the drug sets in motion. When it's smoked or eaten, marijuana triggers a mild euphoria and increased sensitivity to bodily sensations, along with a range of other perceptual distortions that are usually experienced as pleasant ? but not always, and not by all users. Effects usually peak within an hour or two and fade altogether in 3-4 hours. Aftereffects can include a slight hangover and impaired concentration. How does pot work in the body? Good question ? but it's not an easy one to answer. Because the simple fact is that pot is a complicated drug. For one thing, marijuana isn't a single drug molecule, like alcohol or cocaine, but a mix of more than 420 different chemical components. They're so different, in fact, that 61 of them (called cannabinoids) are unique to marijuana. Since we're talking numbers, we'll point out that the main mind-altering cannabinoid is a little number called delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, for short. It's the chemical that trigger marijuana's main drug actions and effects in the body and brain. THC is like a feel-good chemical bomb that explodes on contact, then breaks up into at least 80 different byproducts (or metabolites) before it's eliminated from the body. And that can take a while. The process starts as soon as THC enters the bloodstream, and begins zeroing in on cannabinoid receptors (called anandamides) in the brain and central nervous system. Once it checks into the brain, THC takes its own sweet time in checking out. Unlike many other drugs, which are excreted from the body within hours, THC metabolites stick around ? stored in fatty tissue, mostly ? for 3-5 days, even weeks, in heavy users. What THC metabolites do, if anything, during this time is still mostly unknown. But it's this buildup of metabolites, and the duration of their hangtime in the body, that raises the most concern about possible long-term risks. What risks are linked to pot? We'll start with the heart, because pot can get things pumping faster there than a tricked-up drum machine at a techno music festival. In fact, rapid heartbeat ? which, for some users, can speed up by as much as 50 percent ? is one of the few universal physical effects of marijuana. (Another is increased appetite ? AKA "the munchies.") Even though increased heart rate only lasts minutes and isn't a threat to most people, it could add strain for users with heart disorders or high blood pressure. A bigger threat to more users is irritation to the lungs and respiratory airways, since users tend to inhale pot deeply and hold it in the lungs for as long as possible. Even though a direct link with lung cancer is unproven, pot smoke does contain cancer-causing chemicals (known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons), so it's not that farfetched, either. Are other body systems affected? They sure seem to be. Take the endocrine system, for example. It produces body hormones, the internal chemicals that control how and when we develop. Here's what pot does there: Triggers a short-term drop in the hormones that direct growth and development. Lowers sperm production in males, resulting in fewer normal sperm cells. Tinkers with the balance of hormones that control the menstrual cycles of girls and women. In adults, these changes are temporary. But researchers suspect that young people risk possible long-range developmental problems. As a precaution, they warn kids to avoid pot to reduce the risk. How does pot affect the brain? That's the trickiest question of all-because nobody knows all the intricacies of how the brain works in the first place. And we know even less about how it works with a bongload of marijuana inside it. Still, we're closer to real answers than ever before. What we know for sure is that pot changes more than just the way people feel. It also triggers a number of changes in brain function and behavior. Let's consider just a couple of the main ones: Pot tilts the balance of chemicals in the brain that regulate mood, energy, appetite, and attention. It affects learning and memory processes, and can cause forgetfulness and reduced concentration. Pot also reduces logical thinking and calculation skills, and can impair a user's ability to perform complex tasks, including driving a car. Uncovering the actual machinery of most of pot's effects in the brain is still probably years away. But this much is known right now: Heavy smokers in general and longtime users in particular are more likely to experience ongoing problems than occasional smokers and nonsmokers. And that's something else to think about if you're thinking about pot: Smoke enough of it and it could end up smoking you ? or, at least, part of the future you. Can marijuana cause birth defects? It doesn't cause full-blown birth defects, but that doesn't mean it's okay to smoke if you're pregnant. Because the fact is that pregnancy and unnecessary drug use just don't go together at all. Not only that, but with pot, there's some evidence that use during pregnancy could lead to unnecessary problems for a developing fetus, even raising levels of miscarriage and stillbirth. That's because THC metabolites (remember them?) freely cross the placenta, where they interact with developing body systems. Possible effects include lowered birth weight, nervous system changes, and delayed learning. And if you're pregnant (or you're planning to be), risks like those are too real to disregard-and too important to ignore. Final Facts We still have a long way to go if we're ever going to round up all the facts about marijuana. For that matter, we'll probably never have every answer to every possible question about its effects on the body and brain. Still, you don't need to be a brain surgeon to know that pot poses far more serious risks for some people (particularly teens, pregnant women, and heavy users) than for others. And each is a risk that can be easily avoided. And while pot's potential for causing problems in occasional users has been exaggerated in the past, a final, indisputable fact about marijuana is simply this: The only foolproof way to safeguard yourself against possible problems is to pass on it altogether. Because of all the facts in a shifting mountain of facts (and pseudo-facts and fictions) about pot that has accumulated over the years, one that hasn't changed is that marijuana is a drug ? and a pretty complex one, at that. And like every other drug that's ever been used and abused, it can cause real problems for real people. And that's a fact that's likely to always be true. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sidebar: Final Facts For most people, getting off pot isn't that big a deal. All they need to do is stop ? and stay stopped. Quitting may not be fun, but it doesn't take much more than a little time and a lot of willpower. For others, it can get more complicated ? usually, because they let THC & Company become a regular thing, like coffee in the morning or brushing their teeth at night. For them, quitting is just the first step in a longer process of rebalancing their lives ? and finding alternatives to fill the spaces that leaving pot can leave behind. Places to start: Get Moving! Any serious physical activity can boost your spirits and clear your head. Running, cycling, or just shooting hoops can turn on the same feel-good brain chemicals that pot does, without the risks ? or the expense. Undo the Dew! A junk-food-free diet can turn down any blues that can come from giving up pot. Taking a break from caffeine and sugar can't hurt, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 21, 2002 Author Share Posted May 21, 2002 If anyone has the time to read all of the above could you please shortern it down and post a reply. Thanx:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted May 21, 2002 Administrators Share Posted May 21, 2002 Its not legal in Holland at all. The authorities have simply turned a blind eye to it. Trafficking is still against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I did start to read that big reply about the effects.. but attention span isn't that great anymore. Neither is my memory. Or my attention span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whipper25 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 munchies :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Neobond You die from lung cancer (or a cancer related disease) Wrong. You die from cancer by smoking tobacco. You get brain damage from smoking pot. No one has died directly from the result of smoking pot. Whereas millions have died from the effects of alcohol and tobacco. Yes, pot has its dangers, but no where near as deadly as these two so-called legal drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted May 21, 2002 Administrators Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by NOS482 Wrong. You die from cancer by smoking tobacco. erm.. that was my point :cheeky: LOL EDIT: Pork and cheese I read that long post and now I respectfully request that you post the long term effects of eating butter. Yes BUTTER no margarine, you'll find it might be as damaging. My advice is. Too much of anything is bad for you. thats all ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Toaster I did start to read that big reply about the effects.. but attention span isn't that great anymore. Neither is my memory. Or my attention span. must be smoking too much pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Otto Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by whipper25 munchies :) correct-a-mundo sir.....i got the ****in munchies right now..... 'hey jack, get that ***** of yours to make me some blueberry pancakes' :D hmmmmmm weeeeeeed :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaff Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 pork and cheese! nice post :) and its pork and apple that is bad for the munchies damn u ! :o and to kill yourself from weed wouldn't you have to smoke 40,000 joints in less that an hour? haha something ridiculous like that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleydog Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 ...I can't remember :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciD420TyMe Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 the effects of cannsbis. they r all not 2 bad from what ive experienced 1. munchies 2. happiness 3 relaxation 4. time to go smoke now cuz i cant think of any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 23, 2002 Author Share Posted May 23, 2002 Is the long term damage reversible. Does it faide away after a while or does it cause a perminant brain damage thing. Can the brain repair its self after it becomes slightly brain damaged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tai Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 hmmm... doesn't it shrink the nads ? :ponder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 23, 2002 Author Share Posted May 23, 2002 is that what happened to you? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaff Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 haha theres so much media bull**** about the effects of it :o originally posted by PigeonHead Is the long term damage reversible. Does it faide away after a while or does it cause a perminant brain damage thing. Can the brain repair its self after it becomes slightly brain damaged? erm drinking alcohol is the same sorta thing, drinking 8 pints of average strength larger/beer is about the same as 20 joints i heard or getting hit hard on the head it kills brain cells and no, brain cells dont repair, but you have the ability to lose many many millions before you get even remotly brain damaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerkPY Posted May 23, 2002 Author Share Posted May 23, 2002 I feel brain damaged. maybe I didn't have may brain cells to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMePlease Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Smoking da weed Rob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMePlease Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Have anyone smoked weed while being in a test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmak Administrators Posted May 23, 2002 Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2002 It seems real bad for ya. Luckily I only drink :ditsy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bant Veteran Posted May 23, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 23, 2002 it affects everybody differently..... most people i know that used to be pretty heavy smokers have stopped claiming it made them pretty damn stupid, even after they had come down. i never really experienced any longterm affects...but then again, im nota heavy smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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