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I would download and install IE7 but Firefox will remain my primary browser of choice.

And to all the people that get tired of having to download a full installer for an upgrade

Firefox 1.1 will have binary patching .. so only what needs to be updated will be updated

my stance on IE and MS can be read on my spreadfirefox blog here

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going by your stance I doubt you will even consider downloading IE7 :D.

I switched back to IE a long, long time ago.

At the time I tried it out, to many things were buggy in FF, and I found myself opening up IE 50% of the time to resolve those bugs. That was about 6 months ago, I finally stopped using FF, and I never looked back.

Also keep in mind 85% of my surfing is done on my Mac, so I use Safari most of the time such as right now replying in this post.

However, that other 15% I am surfing on my Windows Comp, yes, it is all IE. If you are smart about your habits, and you do not go to sites that you know are naturally infested (*cough* porn sites *cough*), and finally you check for that random spyware and adaware frequently enough, there is really nothing to worry about at all.

If I use IE my pc gets full of ****e and spyware, I use firefox and my pc is totally free of this crap. Until IE is fixed I will not use it. PERIOD

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Its because of your custom security settings or you click yes all the time when you get a promt to download activex content. Its not IE's mistake.

Its because of your custom security settings or you click yes all the time when you get a promt to download activex content. Its not IE's mistake.

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It is, IE is insecure out of the box and there are tons of exploids, bugs, and flaws out of the box, long live m$

Still use IE6, with no plans for using FF got no need really to change, I've tried it and liked it a lot, but just didn't change :blink:

We use IE at work without any issues, don't really care that its not up to standard, but o well.

I do hope that IE7 has tabs and some of the other features of FF, as some are really good :p

What the heck... So many options, but not one for an obvious one to me:

"Yes, but only if it's better than competing browsers for my needs."

There ARE more than tabs and such things for me in Opera and Firefox, and my general impression has to decide whether I'll end up using it. I'm certainly not using browsers because of a company being more of a "favorite" than another though, but it really depends on if MS will be able to deliver.

99.9% likely to NOT switch. I have heard of very little progress being made with the rendering engine, and that is enough for me to stay away from it and continue to promote alternatives. It's security really needs to be overhauled; it is secure by default in Windows XP SP2 and that was a good start, but the whole "Internet Options" dialog needs to be overhauled to make it simpler to understand for normal users. The browser's interface is decent, but it also needs quite an overhaul to even come close to the alternatives. Quite frankly, I highly doubt I will switch to Internet Explorer for the next 4 years...

I think it would take Microsoft a lot longer then 4 years to get to the point that I would switch back to IE again, a lot longer

it took 3 years for Microsoft to get IE secure enough to the point that you don't have to worry about every little link ya click on potentially sending a virus or a worm your way.(XP SP2)

While XP on the whole is a solid OS and very stable .. it's gonna take separating IE from the OS to make IE as stable and secure as it should/needs to be. Microsoft made a big big mistake making IE part of the XP core .. it's stupid from an end user perspective and from a IT perspective

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