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    • Yes, I only use other browsers for the tabs
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    • Yes, I just want the enhanced security
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    • I already use IE
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    • No, I need my mouse gestures and other features
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    • No, i use linux/OSX and MS doesnt like me
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No, i use linux/OSX and MS doesnt like me shouldnt be an option. i use gentoo linux and i use internet explorer. i like ie and in linux i wont get spyware or viruses lol.

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1 of 3,or you don't know english,or you are a linux troll making propaganda,or 3 you are high :p

if ms decided to pull a move like they did with their defrag tool (it's basically diskeeper, stripped down), where they bought opera and relabeled it IE7, then sure.

obviously, it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens.

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That would be the reason to switch from IE. If they went to a ****ty browse like Opera or Firefox I would never upgrade to it. That is if you could call such a move as an upgrade!

Bah, if I'm still using IE, it's because I am a web developer... and since the majority is still using IE, I have to do it as well and THEN I test the sites within Firefox and then Opera (usually if it works in FF, it works with Opera so that's why this one's never a problem). But yes I am eagerly waiting for a version of IE7 because I do think that the features MS will include should have been there since 2 years ago... they're accumulating big delays in everything they do because they're too big.

That would be the reason to switch from IE. If they went to a ****ty browse like Opera or Firefox I would never upgrade to it. That is if you could call such a move as an upgrade!

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Wow. Not very often I see such a pov on a net forum, though neowin isn't really techie I guess.

Are there any reasons that IE could possibly be considered better than Opera or FireFox? I mean, the only one I can think of is it's forced on you in the OS, oh and that people code to it rather than to standards.

Though personally I can't really stand how fricken slow IE is, hence why I ended up switching long ago.

Bah, if I'm still using IE, it's because I am a web developer... and since the majority is still using IE, I have to do it as well and THEN I test the sites within Firefox and then Opera (usually if it works in FF, it works with Opera so that's why this one's never a problem).

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I disagree, I actually design my pages with Firefox and then check with IE.

I disagree, I actually design my pages with Firefox and then check with IE.

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I do it in a similar manner. First, I check with Safari, then with Firefox, and then with IE. IE hacks in CSS (like the Box Model Hack) are things you add on later, after you've created your valid, real code.

Well every time I develop a website and I check in Firefox, I find a way to make it look good, then I use IE, it doesn't display well, so I fix a few things and it gets screwed up a little in Firefox. That is why I test in IE first, especially with CSS.

IE's display engine sucks but I hope it will be better soon... it needs a big facelift, trust me.

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For those of you who don't like the way Internet Explorer doesn't follow web standards, join the Too Cool for IE Campaign and put a little ribbon on your site! :)

http://www.w3junkies.com/toocool/join.php

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Too Cool. Im sorry if wanting compliance to a standard is too much to ask for. But whenever developing webpages IE throws off things the worst. W3C is not that hard to live up to.

For gesutres you could always use StrokeIt, that way you can use gestures in every application, not just your browser.

And as to IE7, it'll most likely be a very nice browser.

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The question is - can it compete with what we are already using though (Opera 8)?

I haven't tried opera 8 gestures myself, but if StrokeIt presets don't satisfy your needs, it's easily configurable and extendible. I have it set up for opera for going back and forth, closing windows, and going to a certain url.

You should give it a try. It's very lightweight, both installation (104 Kb) and ram (200 K).

IF IE7 disabled activeX and became more secure and added tabbed browsing, would you switch back from firefox/opera?

Keep in mind, at this point, there appear to be no plans to add any png support or make it compatible with w3c standards(not to sway your opinion or anything... :p).

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Meh... not unless it is possible to customize IE7 to the same extent as Opera, if that (which I seriously doubt) becomes possible I might consider a switch. And of course they REALLY have to do something about security, IE6 is currently rated as Highly Critical. And to me the question is if IE7 is an entirely new browser or if it is a modified IE6, if so I will not trust it for providing the security one can expect from a browser

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