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people want more ie.....no thanks. Opera8 works fine for me and no spyware/addware getting in via sh@tty acctiveX

as to sp3  blah  i stoped using xp after sp1 didnt fix the problems i had. I tech support systems most of the time when somebodys got a probem now its sp2 driver/hardware issue. Some are so bad the system restarts. THANKS MS.

"waits for x64 drivers so he can move from 2003 to x64"

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First off, if you're using windows 2003 as a workstation then you like to waste money, or you're a pirate. Second, the updates to IE in SP2 stops the use of ActiveX by default... which, might I add, was available in earlier versions, but not by default.

Also, the majority of the users on the internet still use IE... and more than most want an update to the current version of IE. IE has fallen behind in features compared to the other browsers, and needs a new version... quick.

First off, if you're using windows 2003 as a workstation then you like to waste money, or you're a pirate.  Second, the updates to IE in SP2 stops the use of ActiveX by default... which, might I add, was available in earlier versions, but not by default.

Also, the majority of the users on the internet still use IE... and more than most want an update to the current version of IE.  IE has fallen behind in features compared to the other browsers, and needs a new version... quick.

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or he is using the trial verison you can download from microsoft :rolleyes:

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and microsoft need to include the better system recovery.

which we can recovery when we cannot go inside windows

now we cannot recovery when we cannot go to windows

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I would agree there needs to be improved bootup recovery options in case of crashed and corrupted ntoskrnl etc, because there are more and more people dual booting OS's on much larger hard drives. The process needs to be simplified because crashes are becoming more common place. Maybe the dual boot options could be made available on setup.

Lots of speculation otherwise on the crossover with SP3 and Longhorn, release of IE7. It appears MS has struggled with spreading out their products more consistently because of delays with LH and the lawsuits delaying integration of hardware such as Chimney. Obviously MS is trying to keep the public interest intact by throwing out SP2/SP3. If XP hadn't come out when it did we'd still be on 98 SP 25. As two cents on 5048 is its no more then a dressed up version of XP with a lousy set of speakers to boot. (none) but they had to present something at winHEC. yea, yea, I know Pre-Beta!

As far as the remarks about Opera 8. I've been using Opera for a couple years with no complaints. IE is so far behind Firefox and Opera I don't think they could catch up even with IE7.

lets hope sp3 does the following:

1:be more compatible with apps like sp1 was,sp2 caused many apps not to work right.

2:include ie7,.net framework,wmp 10.

3:include alot more basic but updated device drivers

things the sp should not be:

1:act like longhorn or feel like it

2:does not cost so friggin much.

i will not be going to longhorn when it comes out as xp is the last windows os i will goto unless longhorn feels like xp and such.

lets hope sp3 does the following:

1:be more compatible with apps like sp1 was,sp2 caused many apps not to work right.

2:include ie7,.net framework,wmp 10.

3:include alot more basic but updated device drivers

things the sp should not be:

1:act like longhorn or feel like it

2:does not cost so friggin much.

i will not be going to longhorn when it comes out as xp is the last windows os i will goto unless longhorn feels like xp and such.

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SP-2 was free. SP-3 will probably include those things.

Longhorn will be completly different. That's the point.

SP3 won't be more compatible with apps than SP2.

Why? Because it was neccesary to break compatibility with certain apps for security reasons. Some software was using methods it shouldn't, and that SP2 no longer allowed. It is the vendors fault for not having a fix out in time and using such methods in the first place, no Microsofts.

lets hope sp3 does the following:

1:be more compatible with apps like sp1 was,sp2 caused many apps not to work right.

2:include ie7,.net framework,wmp 10.

3:include alot more basic but updated device drivers

things the sp should not be:

1:act like longhorn or feel like it

2:does not cost so friggin much.

:no:

SP2 was bloated, please spare me a bloated sp3 :cry:

didnt winfs get pulled out of longhorn to be ported to xp..... and avalon will be in xp soon becuase the avalon developer kit for xp was available aaaages ago for xp... also, i wouldnt be suprised if ie7 gets its foot in the door eather. if ie7 seals security holes then it means less bad PR for microsoft, which means more sales.

i think SP3 will be:

Media Player 10, as this wasnt in SP2

Avalon, to bring some fancy animation to XP, like in the latest longhorn build, maybe a new glass effect theme?

WinFS, again, to increace security and speed (maybe)

all the updates since SP2

IE7, a definate in my eyes if ie7 appears before SP3

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