[Definitive] Nintendo Wii Thread

[Gamenews]

here is more that are not on the first post.

smart to have ports just in case the controllers batteries run out.

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Those ports are not for revolution controllers, those are ports for gamecube controller and 2 memory card slots.

[mAcOdIn Veteran]

What'll be really interesting is multiprocessing, hard drive and internet storage, and wireless technology, combined with vr helmets.

Imagine a multicore processor game system as a giant server and you have all your games on it, you sit in your room on your bed playing the new Resident Evil 5 with your wireless headset and controller, while little brother is in his room plugging away on Pokemon, all the while dad and his friends are playing the newest iteration of madden on the big screen TV all from the same system at the same time.

I can't wait for that time, but the helmets need to get smaller and lighter, and we need a bit more processing power.

Just think they could sell different model systems based on the amount of users that could be supported at any given time. You could have the standard system that supports 1 game at a time for the single game playing adult, maybe the children edition which would have support for two game simultaneousely, and like a family or party edition with the power to run 4 different games at once. Man wireless will open up all kinds of things.

[topher1078]

There are so many conspiracy theories floating about here - it's just silly. This is the console, stop trying to shape what you see to fit grand schemes of Nintendo with tons of secrets and whatnot. It's just not the case.

[Laughing-Man]

Oh, and I didn't think of this before, but what is that slot beneath the disc drive? Is it about the size of current GB cartridges?

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They could be one of those mini-harddrives that pop-up now and then on the net. The ones that are the size of a quater and are usually still in the extermiental stages. ;)

[Erich]

The message seems to be that they are opening up the gaming world for people who don't consider themselves gamers. A VR helmet would be a move completely in the other direction.

Time for my veryveryvery long shot in the dark prediction... Perhaps this is both a home console and a portable. The next gen for both gamecube and gameboy.

First of all, it is very small. Even smaller than the prototype. It's too large to fit in one's pocket, but carrying some type of bag/briefcase around is a small price to pay for this kind of portable power. Most people cary something around anyway.

Next, they are stressing the wifi angle, and seem to be implying that it one-ups the compition in this aspect. Anywhere there is wireless internet you can connect to their service. Also, the "controllers" are wireless. So the system itself can remain wherever you're storing it (backpack, messenger bag, briefcase, purse, etc.) That's all the processing hardware tucked nicely away. The only thing a person needs to hold onto to play is the portable version of the "controller," which will contain nothing but a screen and controls. I think that would be pretty awesome. Imagine the PSP without any disc loading or processing hardware... just a thin (possibly oled) and buttons.

So, if you're at home, or at your friend's house... or wherever... you just use a standard wireless controller. If you want to have a portable console, you just buy the portable controller. How much would this cost? A lot less than a portable containing all the other hardware... all you're buying is a screen and some buttons.

Benefits of this? Obviously the stuff I mentioned: actually holding nothing but the screen and buttons, not a large price to go portable. Also, most importantly, no more designing for two markets. Developers create one game and it goes everywhere, and it blows anything found on a portable system entirely out of the water.

Here's a quote I found interesting:

Is any of this likely? Probably not, but it's fun to think about, and hell, it would kick a ton of ass.

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Wow that's probably one of the best, most believable predictions I've heard yet, but I'm still hoping for a helmet ;) :p

[x-byte]

There are so many conspiracy theories floating about here - it's just silly.  This is the console, stop trying to shape what you see to fit grand schemes of Nintendo with tons of secrets and whatnot.  It's just not the case.

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Nintendo is trying to revolutionize the way we see gaming and play. Although it's just a console, it also is a new era of gaming (if Nintendo do what they seem to be doing).

[Destian]

There are so many conspiracy theories floating about here - it's just silly.  This is the console, stop trying to shape what you see to fit grand schemes of Nintendo with tons of secrets and whatnot.  It's just not the case.

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Nothing is known. If you don't want to read people's ideas then go away.

One more thing maybe adding to my silly theory: Have we seen only three sides of the console? The front obviously, the top where that door opens for the gc ports and the one side. The stand could be what plugs into the television/power outlet, then the console itself could just connect to the stand when it's placed on it (think wireless mice) allowing and easy switch from home console to portable.

[Laughing-Man]

Nothing is known. If you don't want to read people's ideas then go away.

One more thing maybe adding to my silly theory: Have we seen  only three sides of the console? The front obviously, the top where that door opens for the gc ports and the one side. The stand could be what plugs into the television/power outlet, then the console itself could just connect to the stand when it's placed on it (think wireless mice) allowing and easy switch from home console to portable.

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I thought it was really weird that they never showed the ports in the back, but then again showing the ports probably would reveal more then they want to show.

[topher1078]

All these crazy theories though inevitably lead to dissapointment. It's one thing to guess and speculate, but another to blatenly make things up. Nintendo had a "revolution" with GBA/GCN connectivity which went absolutely no where. If they had these grand ideas now would be the time to say them, especially with the plans of the other consoles locked down.

Heck I like many of the ideas people have discussed here - just don't get swept up in speculation when it doesn't mesh with reality.

[Destian]

All these crazy theories though inevitably lead to dissapointment.  It's one thing to guess and speculate, but another to blatenly make things up.  Nintendo had a "revolution" with GBA/GCN connectivity which went absolutely no where.  If they had these grand ideas now would be the time to say them, especially with the plans of the other consoles locked down.

Heck I like many of the ideas people have discussed here - just don't get swept up in speculation when it doesn't mesh with reality.

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Who has made anything up? It's all speculation. I'm not going to be disappointed no matter what. I'm buying this system.

...and the more I think about it the more I think it does mesh with reality. Another point, gameboy is the best selling gaming system ever, correct? Why not use this to take back the home console market?

What part of my theory do you find unrealistic?

Edit: ...and why so much emphesis on making it so small?

[Gamenews]

Who has made anything up? It's all speculation. I'm not going to be disappointed no matter what. I'm buying this system.

...and the more I think about it the more I think it does mesh with reality. Another point, gameboy is the best selling gaming system ever, correct? Why not use this to take back the home console market?

What part of my theory do you find unrealistic?

Edit: ...and why so much emphesis on making it so small?

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Japanese have small hands that's why!!! :angry:

On serious note, I dunno... I guess nintendo thinks small is cool taking from the success of apple.

[topher1078]

Who has made anything up? It's all speculation. I'm not going to be disappointed no matter what. I'm buying this system.

...and the more I think about it the more I think it does mesh with reality. Another point, gameboy is the best selling gaming system ever, correct? Why not use this to take back the home console market?

What part of my theory do you find unrealistic?

Edit: ...and why so much emphesis on making it so small?

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I think combining two devices into one will not work for the upcoming console market. It would be a cool idea but not feasable nor would the gaming population go for it. iPods/cellphones/PDAs have emphasized that many people want devices which perform one specific function, and do it well. It's one thing for a device to have many features (PS2 playing movies, for example) but generally devices should have one purpose.

The last generation, and even the N64/PSX battle, was won with better technology and a better feeling of, just plain coolness. Portable systems aren't going to win back the market now dominated by big technological games, ones which are marketable, and which attract the largest audience no matter what their gameplay might be like.

Like I said before, I want Nintendo to succeed. I want them to listen to these ideas and return to dominance. But over the GCNs lifespan, and the early news of Revolution, haven't really wowed me, which makes me miss the Nintendo of old.

[machorro]

Wow that's probably one of the best, most believable predictions I've heard yet, but I'm still hoping for a helmet ;) :p

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lol that again, you will be saying that until nintendo deny it don't you? :laugh:

well seems like a good dream to hold on to :p

[kernatch]

WOW OMG! the DVD FLOATS IN!

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no, it's just suffering from the same problem as the PSP

[Destian]

I think combining two devices into one will not work for the upcoming console market.  It would be a cool idea but not feasable nor would the gaming population go for it.  iPods/cellphones/PDAs have emphasized that many people want devices which perform one specific function, and do it well.  It's one thing for a device to have many features (PS2 playing movies, for example) but generally devices should have one purpose.

The last generation, and even the N64/PSX battle, was won with better technology and a better feeling of, just plain coolness.  Portable systems aren't going to win back the market now dominated by big technological games, ones which are marketable, and which attract the largest audience no matter what their gameplay might be like.

Like I said before, I want Nintendo to succeed.  I want them to listen to these ideas and return to dominance.  But over the GCNs lifespan, and the early news of Revolution, haven't really wowed me, which makes me miss the Nintendo of old.

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All the information I have seen has shown exactly the opposite. People don't want a ton of different devices. cell phones, PDAs, and mp3 players are slowly merging into a single device.

You say it's not feasable. A single reason as to why would be nice.

As far as the games go, that's just entirely irrelivant. I'm not saying they should make a piece of crap that does the things I've written. The power/games are a completely different subject. Unless you want to say they sacrificed power to reduce the size... in which case, that would just add to backing of my theory.

[Bant Veteran]

to add to destians speculation, i just wanted to suggest that the dock could be a charger and that nintendo already boasted the console is going to be low power.

in addition, some kind of wifi tv attachment for video/audio ins would be pretty cool.

[TheLegendOfMart]

to add to destians speculation, i just wanted to suggest that the dock could be a charger and that nintendo already boasted the console is going to be low power.

in addition, some kind of wifi tv attachment for video/audio ins would be pretty cool.

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I dont think so, i think its just a stand. In the Nintendo conference when they brought it onto stage they put it in the stand and then plugged something into the back of the console, then unplugged it from the console when they took it back off stage.

[Destian]

It would definately need to be a charger, yeah. Much like a laptop, when it's plugged in you can use it and it continues to charge until it's full.

WiFi A/V would be cool too, but I have no idea how much bandwidth that would require.

Something else that would be nice: Buying additional docks for different rooms. Playing in the living room and feel like moving into the bedroom? Just grab the console out of one dock and throw it in the other.

I don't recall reading anything about it being low power. Do you have a source?

Man, I'm having a hard time finding a down-side to any of this. If I'm wrong (which I most likely am), I really think they should have done this.

[Amnesia]

do any of the consoles charge their controllers?

[TheLegendOfMart]

do any of the consoles charge their controllers?

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I think both Sony and Microsoft will charge via USB.

[Destian]

I dont think so, i think its just a stand. In the Nintendo conference when they brought it onto stage they put it in the stand and then plugged something into the back of the console, then unplugged it from the console when they took it back off stage.

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I would assume there would be standard jacks on the back in addition to the small port to plug into the dock. The standard jacks would be used in case you brought the console to someone's house who didn't own one. Since people would be carrying the system around with them it's likely that they will end up somewhere else with a television.

Edit: The standard jacks would need to be... standard, since people without the system are not going to have nintendo connectors lying around.

[mAcOdIn Veteran]

It would definately need to be a charger, yeah. Much like a laptop, when it's plugged in you can use it and it continues to charge until it's full.

WiFi A/V would be cool too, but I have no idea how much bandwidth that would require.

Something else that would be nice: Buying additional docks for different rooms. Playing in the living room and feel like moving into the bedroom? Just grab the console out of one dock and throw it in the other.

I don't recall reading anything about it being low power. Do you have a source?

Man, I'm having a hard time finding a down-side to any of this. If I'm wrong (which I most likely am), I really think they should have done this.

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Why use a dock? All it should need is a wifi reciever that plugs into the TV and it should work form anywhere in the house. Hell, your own personal wifi should be more than adequate to transmit a HDTV signal to all the rooms in the house, you should be able to put the console anywhere and play it in any room. See my idea on the prev page where I think they're going.

I don't think this will be portable in the sense you're thinking because I think that'd split the market way too much. PSP, DS, GBA SP Mini, GBA 2, your idea, that's just way too many formats. Plus I think the cost is too high, I don't think people should carry a 200-300 dollar disc based console in thier backpack and a 100 dollar controller.

[TheLegendOfMart]

I would assume there would be standard jacks on the back in addition to the small port to plug into the dock. The standard jacks would be used in case you brought the console to someone's house who didn't own one. Since people would be carrying the system around with them it's likely that they will end up somewhere else with a television.

Edit: The standard jacks would need to be... standard, since people without the system are not going to have nintendo connectors lying around.

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Then why didnt they use it at the show, its not as if they were taking it elsewhere that doesnt have the dock.

[Bant Veteran]

nintendo already said that the current version of the console on display was just a prototype, perhaps the dock wasnt fully functional, or perhaps they didnt want to give anything away.

i can make up any number of reasons, its just speculation after all :p

in regards to low power consumption, i thought i heard it from iwata himself, during the conference. but i can't seem to find a quote anywhere.

edit: heres the quote... it was originally on nintendo.com... but now i cant find it

There's much more to Revolution that will be revealed over the coming months, but the combination of its compact size, wireless Internet, backward compatibility, quick start-up time and quiet, low-power operation add up to the start of a great game system. Get ready for the Nintendo Revolution in 2006!

[protoss_chaos]

iPods/cellphones/PDAs have emphasized that many people want devices which perform one specific function, and do it well. 

ya, those pesky video taking, game playing phones are doing so horribly aren't they?

And those PDA's with the game playing, music playing, movie playing features, what are they thinking?!

[/sarcasm]

People like a device that does more than one thing. Eg) PSP