[Definitive] Nintendo Wii Thread

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Grand Master

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Oh crap now here's a dope idea. Ok so the controller itself communicates to the revolution wirelessly, however the controller has the needed AV output to connect it to a TV or monitor meaning that in lan games everyone could have thier own TV but share a system with only thier controllers. You could make the controllers daisy chainable so 4 players could still play on a given TV but if everyone had a TV they could just do 1 tv a piece. or if you're just home alone or whatever you could plug your controller into any TV in the house and play a game so you don't have to keep moving the system.

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Oh crap now here's a dope idea.  Ok so the controller itself communicates to the revolution wirelessly, however the controller has the needed AV output to connect it to a TV or monitor meaning that in lan games everyone could have thier own TV but share a system with only thier controllers.  You could make the controllers daisy chainable so 4 players could still play on a given TV but if everyone had a TV they could just do 1 tv a piece.  or if you're just home alone or whatever you could plug your controller into any TV in the house and play a game so you don't have to keep moving the system.

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You actually have a really good ideal, but would need some sort of video/audio controller chip in every conroller.

:shifty: /Runs to patent office.

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ya, those pesky video taking, game playing phones are doing so horribly aren't they?

And those PDA's with the game playing, music playing, movie playing features, what are they thinking?!?

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People like a device that does more than one thing. Eg) PSP

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Yes, but with all of those devices people are still buying separate iPods, PDAs, and phones. We see more devices which do the same task, yet people still purchase separate things. All of these devices can do many things but only one particularly well, which is why people still buy all of them. That was my point. This doesn't have much to do with Revolution though, so safer to just end it.

Grand Master

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You actually have a really good ideal, but would need a video card/controller in every conroller.  /Runs to patent office.

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Nah just something that translates wifi to RF/component/VGA. No need to actually DO the processing in the controller because your latency in your own house should be low enough that all the system should have to do is transmit the video stream to the controller and then the controller just outputs the stream to your TV.

Grand Master

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Nah just something that translates wifi to RF/component/VGA.  No need to actually DO the processing in the controller because your latency in your own house should be low enough that all the system should have to do is transmit the video stream to the controller and then the controller just outputs the stream to your TV.

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That is why I changed my statement after my thought. I typed the wrong piece of hardware, I meant a video/audio controller.
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topher1078

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Nah just something that translates wifi to RF/component/VGA.  No need to actually DO the processing in the controller because your latency in your own house should be low enough that all the system should have to do is transmit the video stream to the controller and then the controller just outputs the stream to your TV.

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I think it'd be hard to find WiFi which would run full video that consistently.

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I think it'd be hard to find WiFi which would run full video that consistently.

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Security cameras do. When I was in engineering school in college some group did wireless security cameras as part of their senior project. They were able to record one floor up and receive it in a basement. Its essentially the same technology that wireless routers/modems use in homes and businesses. You can have a microcontroller decode the signal into the audio/video signals and then send the signals through proper controller chips to output to the TV.
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I think it'd be hard to find WiFi which would run full video that consistently.

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I don't think so, in the PC world where a consortium has to make standards so thousands of periphiels can work on it then yes, computer wifi isn't there but this is a closed market game system, they could design whatever they want. If you can transmit a hifi digital TV 720p over the airwaves then you could make wifi do the same.

What hampers the PC industry is the need for everything from different companies to interact and the need to retain backwards compatability with the existing infrastructure. This infrastructure doesn't have to worry about any of that.

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Security cameras do.  When I was in engineering school in college some group did wireless security cameras as part of their senior project.  They were able to record one floor up and receive it in a basement.  Its essentially the same technology that wireless routers/modems use in homes and businesses.

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Yeah, but a security camera is one thing, but compared to a full blown color image constantly shifting and changing is another. Plus the fact that if the image hiccups even a little, it'd be almost completely worthless as a gaming system. I'm sure wireless video will be the standard in the future, but probably not for a while.

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Interesting theory. That would be a neat trick to play on E3 people.  :woot:

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TWO BIG THINGS:

NEWS: (Someone just beat Nintendo ON to the VR thing at E3)

http://www.myth-games.com/news111.htm

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Also My New Theory:

Why else would Nintendo make an updated GBA? I am 100% sure their PR knows it will only be a gimic....

Why do we have access to Nintendo's whole library of games?

Why did the conference talk about how everything will connect, but in a new innovative way?

Well I'm sure your already catching on to my theory.

GBA Micro will be able to connect to the Nintendo Revolution and store games you download from the Internet on the handheld. That way, if you see a game you like, all you have to do is download it, transfer it to the GBA Micro and go on your way.

(all wirelessly)

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I also believe that the Nintendo Revolution's controllers will allow players to "feel" the game - to a certain extent. I recently read on another forum that upcoming titles such as Waverunner have names that incorporate the sense of touch. GRasp and Waverunner:Feel the Wave or something are two titles that come to mind.

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Hi, me again. People are saying that he plugged it in at the conference. I've just watched it ten times, and call me crazy, but it really really looks like he's plugging a wire into the dock, not into the console. Not only this, but after he does it he shifts the entire thing a little bit to the side, making sure it is directly facing the audience. At first I thought this was just a little adjustment for perfection's sake, but now, yeah... it really looks like he's plugging in the dock.

Go to 34 minutes and 38 seconds, then watch it a few times. Thanks for making me check this out.

Does anyone have a good quality DL link? Steaming is a pain.

Edited to fix the time.

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Hi, me again. People are saying that he plugged it in at the conference. I've just watched it ten times, and call me crazy, but it really really looks like he's plugging a wire into the dock, not into the console. Not only this, but after he does it he shifts the entire thing a little bit to the side, making sure it is directly facing the audience. At first I thought this was just a little adjustment for perfection's sake, but now, yeah... it really looks like he's plugging in the dock.

Go to 34 minutes and 38 seconds, then watch it a few times. Thanks for making me check this out.

Does anyone have a good quality DL link? Steaming is a pain.

Edited to fix the time.

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A better confirmation of this is that while Iwata ends his speech, he just picks up the revolution and leaves. Which means like you said, the revolution is not plugged, but the dock itself.

Update: Actually no, you are wrong. I double checked, for a split second his hand is back of the revolution and it seems he pulls the plug.

Besides there are images released by nintendo of revolution without the dock and still having the blue illuminating light, not to mention, how would you able to set it horizontally if dock supplies the power. Iwata said you can place revolution both ways.

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Grand Master

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very interesting find, i wonder if it will be the same in the final design :huh:

edit: after reading the edit to the post above....

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edit again..... u want some more ???

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now make some asumptions :p

heres mine

wtf are those 4 ports at the top ??? GC controllers???? or for its new controllers or for something else???

Grand Master

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I also believe that the Nintendo Revolution's controllers will allow players to "feel" the game - to a certain extent. I recently read on another forum that upcoming titles such as Waverunner have names that incorporate the sense of touch. GRasp and Waverunner:Feel the Wave or something are two titles that come to mind.

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The guy Aries, the supposed ex-Nintendo employee, on the Broken Saints page said that Nintendo will incorporate some sort of pressure grips on their controllers besides the gyroscopes, which is not that far fetched at all. Going with your example about Waverunner, squeezing one grip would accelerate the jet ski, while loosening your grip will basically take your had off the acceleration.

Then again if Aries is right, Nintendo will be pulling the greatest hoax off tomorrow. :shifty:

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Well it could be two things:

Either the images are renders and the blue glow isn't real

Or the system itself has a battery like he suggested and is powereding itself

Because I don't see a plug in any of those shots

But then I guess they could be real pics with the plug edited out.....

Basically I guess we can't really speculate at all.

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A better confirmation of this is that while Iwata ends his speech, he just picks up the revolution and leaves. Which means like you said, the revolution is not plugged, but the dock itself.

Update: Actually no, you are wrong. I double checked, for a split second his hand is back of the revolution and it seems he pulls the plug.

Besides there are images released by nintendo of revolution without the dock and still having the blue illuminating light, not to mention, how would you able to set it horizontally if dock supplies the power. Iwata said you can place revolution both ways.

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the whole point of our discussion was that the dock was a CHARGER, leading to the conclusion that the revolution has a rechargeable battery in there somewhere? perhaps the blue light is actually a battery meter! haha...

the power cord obviously goes into the dock, you can see it from a couple angles throughout iwatas speech.

Grand Master

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btw that pic i posted is not the back of it... its the top of it with the top open :p

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We know, that is supposed to be to retain backwards compatability with the gamecube, hence the cube controller ports and memory card slots.

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the power cord obviously goes into the dock

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so then....what if you want to play with the console on its side and you never ever even touch the dock??

there has to be a plug on the console....i think its just a vertical stand....at least from the pictures i've seen....could i be wrong...possibly....but what sense would it make to plug in the "dock" but then also have a regular plug incase you never want it to stand up....

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the whole point of our discussion was that the dock was a CHARGER, leading to the conclusion that the revolution has a rechargeable battery in there somewhere.  i believe when he disconnects the rev, the blue light is still on isnt it? perhaps the blue light is actually a battery meter! haha...

the power cord obviously goes into the dock

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What is the point of charging the console though?

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Destian

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Obviously the blue light when not plugged in means nothing, as mentioned.

He does unplug it at the end, and to me, it still looks like the plug is coming out of the dock. It's not as good a view as when he plugs it in (the shot is kind of far away), but his hand is still at the very bottom.

Also, when he walks from one side of the stage to the other you get another decent look.

I'm sure someone could cut out these portions of the video which would make it easier to see. I could still use a nonsteaming version if anyone has a link.

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