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Source: Guardian Unlimited

Talking 'bout a revolution

Nintendo's next generation console aims to stay ahead of the game by attracting casual gamers. Rhianna Pratchett reports

Thursday July 7, 2005

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Nintendo has always been driven by a strong gaming franchise, stoically asserting that great games sell hardware, not the other way round. With long-running titles such as Mario, Zelda and Metroid under its belt, and two billion units sold in 20 years, the company has certainly put its money where its mouth is.

"We remain all about the game; actions speak louder than words," said Nintendo's president, Saturo Iwata, at this year's E3, where Nintendo unveiled the first details of its next generation console, the Revolution.

While Microsoft and Sony have been all teraflops and anti-aliasing in the promotion of the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation3, Nintendo has taken a more laid-back approach. Even weeks after E3, little has been revealed about the Revolution's capabilities. All the world knows is that it will have 512MB of internal Flash memory, two USB ports, built-in Wi-Fi access and will also allow users to download the company's back-catalogue of N64, SNES and NES games.

However, much of the speculation surrounding the system has been about what form the controller will take. Although Iwata has been careful not to reveal too much about the Revolution - Nintendo is planning to release more details at the end of the year - he has expressed reservations about the controllers gamers currently use.

"There are too many buttons and sticks on controllers for novice players, which is likely to discourage them from ever playing games at all," he says. "We want the Revolution's controller to be relevant to everybody and we really want people to feel like they want to touch and play with it."

Capturing the casual gaming market - something Microsoft also wants to achieve - should be an easy ride for Nintendo, which remains family-friendly in terms of content. Nowhere is this more evident than in Japan, where gaming is intrinsically rooted in the entertainment culture.

"Nintendo is very good at creating games that can appeal to the whole family," says Iwata. "There have been a lot of games created around excessive violence in the past few years and it seems to be escalating. From the business point of view, it doesn't make sense for us to follow suit.

"We cherish our hardcore gamers, but we always try to attract as many people as possible and expand the existing gaming population."

Nintendo recently unveiled its free-to-use worldwide DS Wi-Fi gaming service. The company has been sceptical about the potential of online console gaming, and Iwata still does not feel that Xbox Live is indicative of success because the number of Xbox owners playing on Xbox Live is still low.

As far as Nintendo is concerned, the future of multiplayer gaming is in Wi-Fi, not the internet. "If Nintendo sells 5m DSs with Wi-Fi capabilities, then we want 5m people to play with Wi-Fi," he says.

Nintendo is very proud of its portable wing and, as Reggie Fils-Aime, chief marketing officer of Nintendo, says: "For 16 years, Nintendo has owned the portable game space. We created it, and we're not moving out." This has lead to speculation that the Revolution is designed to be portable, as its size and storage cradle suggest. Nintendo's secrecy has also sparked theories that the controller is somehow contained within the Revolution - that the machine itself is the controller.

Whatever transpires, Nintendo could use its heritage and innovation to provide gamers with an interesting alternative when the next-generation war finally arrives.

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Nintendo Making a Revolution Router

For those still stuck on landlines, tied down by pesky wires, Nintendo has the solution. Nintendo will soon be producing a router that will allow access the Nintendo Wi-Fi Network on both the DS and the Revolution. The router plugs into a USB 2.0 port and transfers your computers internet connection wirelessly into your next-gen Nintendo devices. Nintendo feels this is a easier and better solution than providing an accessory to allow a hardline connection, and I tend to agree.

Details, pricing, and release date have not been announced.

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I think that is fake. From my understanding the Revolution can use any router that has wireless capabilities without plugging an add-on to a USB port. Unless if they are talking about people who don't have routers with wireless or who do not have routers at all.

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Osoko Tanaka has caused quite a stir in the Nintendo community; he claims to be a former Nintendo, Co. Ltd. employee who has had access to classified Nintendo Revolution information. His weblog, Only Nintendo Revolution, has hundreds of followers. Webmaster Ramsey Kobeissi conducts an exclusive interview with this extraordinary proponent of the Revolution hype machine.

RevoGaming: You claim to have worked at Nintendo in the past. What position did you hold, and what was the reason for your departure from the company so many wish to work at?

Osoko Tanaka: I worked on the backwards-compatibility aspect of the Revolution with a great team, all good friends. I also worked on the Nintendo Revolution interface which allows great interaction with the player and other applications.

My involvement with the Revolution's development meant that I was allowed access to confidential information such as the Revolution's controller.

I can't comment on why I don't work at Nintendo now. It is a clause of the work contract.

RevoGaming: To what extent were you involved in the development of the Nintendo Revolution?

Osoko Tanaka: I know all that was needed to work on the system; you can't work on the development of a console without knowing anything about it. We discussed ideas with important developers, and their suggestions were noted. Miyamoto was also involved; he has many awesome ideas. I look up to him.

RevoGaming: Have you actually played a Nintendo Revolution [prototype]? Please explain the new experience Nintendo claims it can offer.

Osoko Tanaka: I have been present in all discussions, and therefore have heard all ideas regarding the Revolution at Nintendo. I have been witness to Revolution demonstrations. It is hard to describe the experience the Revolution will offer; it has to be seen or felt rather than described. It is another gaming experience. I know that when you see a demonstration of the system, you will be impressed.

RevoGaming: Rumours are thick across forums that Nintendo's current Revolution information is a 'trojan horse' of sorts; that a proper unveiling will be held later this year that will reveal a completely different console. Is there any substance to this rumour?

Osoko Tanaka: Nintendo has always impressed, and will not fail to do so with the Revolution. Nintendo have no problems with changing the hardware. However, I do not know if the Revolution will be changed for sure as that work belonged with an another department. What I can tell you is that Nintendo is working very hard at increasing the Revolution's power. A similar process was executed in the development of the GameCube. Nintendo are also considering implementing more ideas into the Revolution. Miyamoto has been a prime source of ideas, having many of them on all aspects of the console.

RevoGaming: How is the controller revolutionary? What ideas were discussed before alighting on a final concept?

Osoko Tanaka: Nintendo want to change the concept of the standard console controller; to transmit different experiences. With Nintendo 64, a great step was seen in the development of controllers. Consider the Nintendo Revolution as a radical step for the better.

You'll feel inside the game. When these feelings are transmitted through the controller, you'll feel you right there, in the game. You'll be impressed.

RevoGaming: RevoGaming recently showed a controller in the news section. Is this the controller, or is the real controller similar in any way?

Osoko Tanaka: A fake; but a beautiful one at that.

RevoGaming: People have linked the Revolution's controller to the Novint Falcon. Novint claims that they will be launching a console-compatible version of their Falcon in 2006, the year that the Revolution will supposedly be released in. Is there any substance to this rumour?

Osoko Tanaka: It certainly is an interesting concept. However, it is not for the Revolution. There is no likening.

RevoGaming: We'll discuss the Revolution specifications now. Are there any conrete specs so far?

Osoko Tanaka: The Nintendo Revolution will have next-generation graphics. A system that can appeak to all gamers in specs and visuals. Many casual gamers want to see great graphics in a console. Nintendo has taken this into account.

RevoGaming: How is third-party support for the Revolution? Are there games coming from small developers, exclusive contracts and major developers? Any good second- or third-party exclusives lined up?

Osoko Tanaka: On the Revolution, we'll see exclusives from all manner of developers: first-, second- and third-party. A major factor is that the experience offered by the Revolution is unlike anything that can be offered on the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. This means that developers can transmit their ideas in innovative and new ways on the Revolution. And they will do so.

Konami, Sega, Capcom and Square-Enix are amongst those developing for the Revolution. There are many more. Smaller developers can receive developing and financial help from Nintendo [Yamauchi's Q Fund]. The Revolution allows for all games to be developed at low costs yet with amazing results.

RevoGaming: The Nintendo Revolution has two USB ports, a first for a Nintendo console. Are there any as-yet-unannounced add-ons that will utilise this? A hard drive, perhaps, for MMORPGs and the like?

Osoko Tanaka: It is important to have a hard drive, and this will become evident in the next generation. Nintendo plans to release a hard drive for the Revolution, as well as many other peripherals. The Revolution's interface is ready and optimised for integration of these peripherals.

RevoGaming: A recent Ubisoft press release noted the release of the Revolution to be Q4 2006, at least for European territories (no other dates were given). Many fans are worried about this prospect. Is there any substance to the date, or is it just a safe guess by Ubisoft?

Osoko Tanaka: I do not know exact dates for the Revolution's release. However, I do know that all gamers will see the Revolution in 2006. 2006 is the year of the Revolution, although perhaps for the Japanese at first. Nintendo will not fall behind in the next-generation race.

RevoGaming: What is the estimated date for the release of more Revolution information? This ranges from the unveiling of 'Hollywood' and 'Broadway' to the controller and the release of development kits.

Osoko Tanaka: Details will be revealed when they are finalised. Hollywood and Broadway, as with the rest of the Revolution, are still in development (albeit mostly complete). Nintendo also wants to make sure that its competitors will not copy its ideas.

RevoGaming: Can you spill the beans on or at at least name some titles in development for Revolution that have not already been announced?

Osoko Tanaka: Capcom is working on an exclusive game for the Revolution. It is not part of the Resident Evil series. Nintendo wants to expand its range of games and create new games. For the exclusive game, Capcom is following Nintendo's development philosophy.

RevoGaming: Finally, what is planned for the release of the system? Any specific games etc.?

Osoko Tanaka: We'll see many Nintendo games at launch; some new franchises, some established.

The information provided by Osoko Tanaka is extremely interesting and should certainly be wood on the fire for Revolution speculation. RevoGaming must remind readers that the above information is unconfirmed; there are many fans, though, who believe Osoko and his statements. Osoko stands by his statements as truth.

Osoko Tanaka posts regularly at his Nintendo Revolution-related weblog, Only Nintendo Revolution.

Ramsey Kobeissi assumes the role of webmaster and Editor-in-Chief at RevoGaming.

RevoGaming will keep you updated.

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Look's very starcraftish well developped space that's turned really gritty and made for survival instead of comfort. To fight and resist the invading zerg. Sorta like how War of the worlds shoulda been. Mass invasion wave after wave until they win.

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Those screenshots..(if they are real) foreshadow the Revolution's graphical power and it will be interesting to see other key franchises such as Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Donkey Kong to get that type of a facelift. I believe the Revolution will truly revolutionize the game and really make the player feel "in the game".

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Those screenshots..(if they are real) foreshadow the Revolution's graphical power and it will be interesting to see other key franchises such as Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Donkey Kong to get that type of a facelift. I believe the Revolution will truly revolutionize the game and really make the player feel "in the game".

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Hahaha, a walking talking commercial :p :happy: :D :huh: :happy:

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Just on a side note, considering that the Revolution will support games from all of Nintendo's previous consoles, is there any chance that they might agree a deal with Sega, and let games from Sega's past consoles to be available to be played on the Revolution...., or would trying to recompile Sega game to work with Revolution, be too difficult?

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Just on a side note, considering that the Revolution will support games from all of Nintendo's previous consoles, is there any chance that they might agree a deal with Sega, and let games from Sega's past consoles to be available to be played on the Revolution...., or would trying to recompile Sega game to work with Revolution, be too difficult?

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I don't think Sega even owns their games anymore. I think the arcade game maker Sammy does.
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I don't think Sega even owns their games anymore.  I think the arcade game maker Sammy does.

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it would be a nice little earner for both Nintendo andSega/Sammy.. let us hope they can come to an arrangment.. it would be nice to play Sonic 2 again and others

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Is there any possibility that if Nintendo doesn't succeed with the Revolution that they could go the way of SEGA?

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omg, i hate posts like these. Nintendo makes money on every gamecube sold, every gameboy sold, every game sold. They make more money just as a game company than all of sony makes as an electronics company. Nintendo will be around for a long time.

EDIT: Infact, for last year alone, Nintendo made half as much as software giant microsoft made. Any company that profits 50% as much as Microsoft does, is running a good business, i'm sorry.

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omg, i hate posts like these. Nintendo makes money on every gamecube sold, every gameboy sold, every game sold. They make more money just as a game company than all of sony makes as an electronics company. Nintendo will be around for a long time.

EDIT: Infact, for last year alone, Nintendo made half as much as software giant microsoft made. Any company that profits 50% as much as Microsoft does, is running a good business, i'm sorry.

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Your right..I should have never doubted them. Afterall, I am a Nintendo Fanboy! :jump:

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EDIT: Infact, for last year alone, Nintendo made half as much as software giant microsoft made. Any company that profits 50% as much as Microsoft does, is running a good business, i'm sorry.

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No, Nintendo made more profit then MS's and Sony's gaming divisions with only 10% of the market share. Most of this is due to the fact that they are the second largest game publisher in the world.

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i don't think i would hold much interest for nintendoon.co.uk anymore, considering, that the creator of the ON video,Pablo Belmonte, has said himself that he has nothing to do with the site and that when he asked the site owners not to profit from his clip, they responded by challenging him to prove that it was his clip, even though he has the originals and could easily reproduce the whole video again ( source http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com )

but believe what you want to believe... they could all be in it with Ninty playing with us....

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i don't think i would hold much interest for nintendoon.co.uk anymore, considering, that the creator of the ON video,Pablo Belmonte, has said himself that he has nothing to do with the site and that when he asked the site owners not to profit from his clip, they responded by challenging him to prove that it was his clip, even though he has the originals and could easily reproduce the whole video again  ( source http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com )

but believe what you want to believe... they could all be in it with Ninty playing with us....

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Don't EFFINg trust blogsites, for ANY infomation on ANYTHING about the Revolution.

UNLESS! They PROVIDE a authentic and RELIABLE SOURCe for their infomation. Anything else is PURE speculation.

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Don't EFFINg trust blogsites, for ANY infomation on ANYTHING about the Revolution.

UNLESS! They PROVIDE a authentic and RELIABLE SOURCe for their infomation. Anything else is PURE speculation.

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i hear what you are saying dude, there is so much shyte out there, it makes your head dizzy, but i find that Fafaelkid's blog ( http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com ) is one of the best there.. he separates fact from fiction, not make outrageous claims (like Osoko Tanaka) on what the Rev will be, and has some very good reads on there, check it out... and yes he does provide solid sources for his info.

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Claude Fable 5 sits above the Opus models and outperforms most other generally available models across knowledge work, vision, scientific research, and more. However, the model was abruptly suspended after receiving an export control directive from the US government. Stack Overflow for AI agents: The popular Q&A platform has launched Stack Overflow for Agents in beta, which AI agents can use to share, find, and reuse coding knowledge. It explained that AI agents operate in isolation, creating an Ephemeral Intelligence Gap, and valuable tokens are wasted on something another agent has already solved. Upgrading Codex: OpenAI is buying a company called Ona, which makes secure cloud execution and orchestration technology for developers. The ChatGPT-maker aims to make Codex agents run for days without being tied to a local machine or an active session. It also announced a new developer mode in Chrome. This week in open-source news Catch up on some of the latest open-source and Linux updates that arrived throughout the week: Linux 7.1 rc7: Linux Torvalds dropped an optimized rc7 with crucial fixes for AMD and laptop hardware. He said that a stable version of Linux 7.1 could arrive next week, adding that the latest RC is not small, but smaller than recent releases. Alpine Linux 3.24: The latest Alpine Linux release added support for COSMIC Desktop, Linux 6.18, IPv6 installer support, automatic serial console configuration for headless setups, and major package updates and removals. This week in Microsoft News Microsoft had to shut down more than 70 GitHub repos after they were compromised by malware, Teams is getting a controversial tracking feature that users may hate, and the company explained why the new update makes PowerToys faster. You can check out Taras's freshly baked Microsoft Weekly roundup to catch up on all the interesting stories this week. This week in gaming The latest issue of Pulasthi's Weekend PC Game Deals curates several exciting games on sale this week. On the Epic Games Store, the new titles on display for grabs include Warhammer 40K Speed Freeks and The Ouroboros King. NVIDIA GeForce NOW's summer sale lowered the prices of both the Performance and Ultimate membership options for a limited time period. Meanwhile, the Xbox Free Play Days brought Undead Labs' post-apocalyptic title State of Decay 2, as well as two Team17-published titles. That said, here are some more stories from the gaming world: Dragon's Dogma 2: Dark Arisen expansion to bring snowy region, new updates also coming Playground drops 30 minutes of Fable gameplay, shows off life sim and morality system Playground Games confirms Forza Horizon 6 save wipe bug Doom: The Dark Ages Revelations expansion gives the Slayer a brutal Chain Spear State of Decay 3 is out in 2027, reveals Plague Nests with new co-op gameplay trailer From the review corner This week, Taras got his hands on the DuRoBo Krono portable e-ink reader, which comes with a $279 price tag. It's a smartphone-sized device with a rotating dial, sitting somewhere between premium and cheap in terms of build quality. Speaking of the pros, the physical controls are cool, the smart dial is useful, the battery life is good, and Android 15 has no-nonsense software. On the flip side, the device lacks software customization, the built-in AI needs improvement, the smart dial is a bit wobbly, and there is no ambient light sensor. EA Sports UFC 6 EA Sports UFC 6 does a better job at onboarding new players than most fighting games, according to Pulasthi's detailed review. The game comes with rewarding combat systems, top-notch animation, impressive impact physics, and visible damage on fighters. However, the menus lag a lot, grappling isn't very fun, and the flow state feels a little misplaced. More price drops! We got you covered with some hot tech deals all week. For some reason, if you missed out on a great discount, here is a summary of some recent deals that are still alive: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC ICE 16G - $649.99 (13% off) 1TB Samsung T7 Portable SSD - $189.98 (31% off) AirPods Pro 3 - $179 ($50 off) Edifier R1280Ts Powered Bookshelf Speakers - $129.99 (24% off) To view all of our recent deals, click here. So, these were some of the biggest tech news and other updates from this week. There will be more issues of our 7 Days series in the coming weeks and months, so stay tuned. You can also support Neowin by registering for a free member account or subscribing to extra member benefits, along with an ad-free tier option. Have a great weekend!

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