[Definitive] Nintendo Wii Thread

[Soham]

That is the best design for a console I've ever seen.

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me too :D

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Naka-San: "You will be pleasantly surprised."

News from Leipzig. This morning, I interviewed Yuji Naka, creator of Sonic. I asked him just how revolutionary the upcoming Nintendo console really was and he answered: "I am under a strict NDA, so I can?t really say much. But I have seen the Revolution and I think everyone will be very pleasantly surprised, when Nintendo reveal everything."

Source: http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/

[Laughing-Man]

-bYtE,Aug 19 2005, 18:45]Source: http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/

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Ugh, I am starting to think the internet is blowing the controller way out of proportion and Nintendo is never going to be able to live up to everyone's expectations of what it will be. I think the controller when revealed is going to be another "duh why didn't I think of that", something simple that no one has thought of doing before. My opinion is starting to shift and I am begining to believe it is not going to include gyroscopes or touchscreens or tachical feedback or hot\cold grips or whatever the internet is thinking up. It is probably going to be something simple that everyone will feel stupid for not thinking of first. Edited August 20, 2005 by jmole

[DAaaMan64]

jmole tells the wise truth that would suck if it just turned out to be nothing!!

[Laughing-Man]

Lol, just when I predict the controller is simple, IGN put this up:

Predicting the Revolution (IGN)

We take our best shot at guessing what the Revolution's controller will look like. 3D images included.

August 19, 2005 -

While plenty of rumors, hearsay and general guessing have been floating around about what Nintendo has up its sleeve with its Revolution controller, no one outside the company or its highly trusted core developers knows anything about said input device. Some say it has to have touch screen technology of some sort, some say it's entirely customizable, but the truth is that no one knows for sure.

Nintendo has dropped a few hints, though anything it has said has been rather vague. We're still guessing about the controller as much as everyone else is, so we figured we'd take a crack at a few designs that might make sense. Check 'em out.

First up is what we'll call the Nintenball. This entirely made up controller features gyroscopic motion sensors, using for controlling on-screen actions in an entirely analog form. It's also motion sensitive, so it'll know if you're moving it from side to side without twisting it.

The Nintenball features four buttons, three for your first three fingers and one for your thumb. A second thumb button would be located on the other side of the Nintenball, making it useful for right and left-handed gamers.

Our next controller is mostly standard in shape and design, allowing it the ability to play most any game from Nintendo's existing library. It features a large A button and smaller B button on the face, exactly as the GameCube controller has, but minus the X and Y buttons. The triggers are analog, though there are only two rather than four like the controllers that Nintendo's competitors have put together. Nintendo has said that today's controllers are too complicated, relying on too many buttons and analog sticks for input. As such, this controller only features four main buttons, A, B, L and R.

The main feature of this controller is its trackball. We figure that using a trackball for camera movement would be more intuitive for casual and non-gamers than a second analog stick, the folks that Nintendo is aiming to bring into gaming with the Revolution.

This controller's trackball and buttons also provide tactile force feedback. For example, if you were to press A to swing a sword, if you hit a brick wall the button would suddenly stop short. If you were to slice through an enemy, it might start loose and then tighten a bit when contact was made. And if you simply missed, the button would slide with ease the whole way.

Behold the Revolution 720.

Our third controller is designed to be played with only one hand, theoretically more in line with a remote control than a conventional game controller.

The Stick features a single analog stick, two action buttons and gyroscope technology. Movement could either be registered with the analog stick or via the gyroscope technology, allowing the analog stick to then be used for camera control. A first-person shooter might work quite well in the latter configuration.

The Stick is design to be ambidextrous like the Nintenball, allowing gamers who favor either hand easy and intuitive control.

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Ugh, I am starting to think the internet is blowing the controller way out of proportion and Nintendo is never going to be able to live up to everyone's expectations of what it will be.  I think the controller when revealed is going to be another "duh why didn't I think of that", something simple that no one has thought of doing before.  My opinion is starting to shift and I am begining to believe it is not going to include gyroscopes or touchscreens or tachical feedback or hot\cold grips or whatever the internet is thinking up.  It is probably going to be something simple that everyone will feel stupid for not thinking of first.

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You know what? That might just be the case :p Can't wait to see peoples reaction (and mine..) when they show it :)

[Bant Veteran]

i think it is going to be somewhere in between. innovation isnt about complexity. i think there is truth to the gyroscopes, and i think there is truth to a few other things. but people hear revolution and they let their imaginations go retarded. not crazy, retarded. who WANTS a controller with a touchscreen and a heat / cold generator and a microphone?.... the fact NORMAL unimaginative people are throwing these things out there, should be CLEAR indicators that this is not the kind of innovation we should expect from nintendo.

the changes are going to push towards simplicity, not complexity. the controller needs to feel more comfortable than any before, and it needs to be accessible to people of many shapes and ages. the controller MUST feel natural, and it must be durable. I think the hints nintendo has given in regard to FEELING the game speak loudly about a 'natural' feeling controller. its going to be something that lets the user feel like they are really controlling a part of the world they are watching.

ign makes some interesting points.... i think tactile force feedback would be a good way to connect the user to the game, but i don't think we are looking outside the box. i think our minds are still very much wrapped around the controllers of today.

edit: i also wanted to say that ign's designs are ....silly. gripping anything with the majority of your hand like that, playing a game for a few hours, can you imagine how uncomfortable that would be? and the palm sweat... yum. the control needs to rest lightly and allow airflow between the hand and plastic.

Edited August 20, 2005 by Bant

[Laughing-Man]

Some interesting comments made on blog and other news sites:

More news has arisen from Leipzig regarding the Nintendo Revolution, this time in the form of the elusive controller. Lionhead's Peter Molyneux was stated as saying "There is a line at the end of the book 'Game Over' and it is: 'Never underestimate Nintendo'. That is all I can say about the controller".

There are several little bits of information floating around the Internet at the moment regarding Nintendo and its forthcoming Revolution next generation system. First of all there is the fact that it was announced at the Leipzig Games Conference that Sega would be unveiling 'Sonic Next' at September's Tokyo Games Show, which is definitely cause for Nintendo fan elation due to the fact that recent interviews have highlighted how Sega believes Nintendo is Sonic's spiritual home now that the company has backed out of the home console market with the death of the DreamCast.  If nothing is mentioned of Sonic Next for the Revolution, then there will be many gasps around the Industry (as there were when Resident Evil 5 was initially announced as for PS3 and XBOX360, without even a second thought to the heavy NDAs developers will have slapped on them by Nintendo at the moment...).

On the back of this, at the same event, one lucky fellow grabbed a brief chat with Sonic-creator Yuji Naka. To fieldset from the interview, Naka-san showed some enthusiasm toward the Revolution,

"I am under a strict NDA, so I can't really say much. But I have seen the Revolution and I think everyone will be very pleasantly surprised, when Nintendo reveal everything."

Source: Cubed3.com and Nintendo Revolution Blog

[killmaster84]

So did Nintendo drop the idea for small discs? Sorry didn't really look into the Revolution.

[GNRambo]

So did Nintendo drop the idea for small discs? Sorry didn't really look into the Revolution.

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ya they dropped it and it now plays DVD, but it is backwards compatible :)

[Laughing-Man]

ya they dropped it and it now plays DVD, but it is backwards compatible :)

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I think they are using the same optical discs as the GameCube, but they will be DVD size and they will hold more data. I am curious as hell how they have a slot loading drive that accepts the GameCube discs and DVD sized discs.

Edit: I just checked, plus I have it on the first post of the thread: Slot loading optical disc drive capable of handling both 12 cm and 8 cm proprietary optical discs (again, for GameCube compatibility).

[killmaster84]

Nintendo changing the way we game for ever agian.

[estranged]

Hmm.. wtf

[SonComet]

Hmm.. wtf

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It was just a little voice recognition demo. And no it wasn't a revolution demo.

[Dazzla Veteran]

Looks like an online magazine site seems to think they have the inside scoop on the Nintnedo Revolution controller. Sounds interesting, and I sure hadn?t thought of this, yet somehow if this is all the controller is, I would feel a bit let down. Quote from Computer Games Magazine:

?It's revolutionary in the same two senses that controller rumble is/was revolutionary: first, it's kind of actually not a huge deal, but controllers will eventually all have it because it is pretty neat; and second, it involves revolving. Simpthe Revolution controller will provide resistance to being tilted. No doubt this is done by some application of a tilt sensor such as the one in WarioWare: Twisted combined with rumble technology.

After all, rumble is just done by some off-balance widgets inside the controller spinning really fast. If they were balanced, they could provide enough rotational inertia? the same thing that makes bikes and motorcycles harder to tilt the faster they're going? to perform this trick.

The "could" is why Nintendo hasn't come out with it yet. Yeah, they say they don't want it to be copied, which is valid because I'm sure it will be, just not anytime soon. What's really happening is Nintendo is trying to make this work with wireless controllers, finding the optimal tradeoff between spinning the widgets fast enough to produce a good, strong effect and keeping the controller from eating batteries too quickly. Oh, and it has to be cheap and reliable, too.?

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Interesting... Where did you get that from? Seems like speculation though..

[Dale]

www.kidicarus.org - Could Nintendo be playing a Our Colony?

[Trauma]

can someone do a "who is" for this domain? (I'm at work, firewall blocks everything)

I doubt it has anything to do with nintendo.

[dj6ross]

can someone do a "who is" for this domain? (I'm at work, firewall blocks everything)

I doubt it has anything to do with nintendo.

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[Laughing-Man]

-bYtE,Aug 23 2005, 05:35]Interesting... Where did you get that from? Seems like speculation though..

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Here and here: GameCube Europe, AdvancedMedia Network.

Both the GameCube and GBA advanced were announced on August 24th, 2000. Also, from what I have been reading, all the specs of the GameCube were released on August 24, 2001. That and the editor from IGN, Matt, said last week that Nintendo would be releasing news in a few days or a week or sometime soon, which is very vague.

Basically the internet is getting out of control again and is making up dates of supposed big news that is going to be released. Ugh another day of waiting for nothng to happen.

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Basically the internet is getting out of control again and is making up dates of supposed big news that is going to be released.  Ugh another day of waiting for nothng to happen.

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Yep, afraid so.... :pinch:

[Amnesia]

This just in!

" Title: NINTENDO REVOLUTION DATE!

Date: 20-19-2006

It has been revealed by officials during a secret meeting that the official release date will in fact be next week.

It was quoted "LIMAW, We have tricked them and now they will buy it!"

Analysts speculate that Nintendo is number one because the competition is not.

This email is a secret and should not be spread around.

head of nintedo secrets,

Joseph Mukitato"

[Dale]

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Molyne...ed_8270_0_0.htm

Posted: 11:44 on 24 Aug 2005

By: Chris Leyton

After mounting speculation recent Revolution comments were unreliable, TVG discovers that the Lionhead's chief certainly doesn't underestimate Nintendo...

The Definitive Nintendo Revolution Blog has come under a lot of stick recently after comments with Sonic Team head Yuji Naka and Lionhead supreme Peter Molyneux at the Leipzig Games Convention bizarrely went missing from the site following a number of larger publications quoting the article.

However today TVG has been in touch with Lionhead who confirmed that Molyneux did indeed make such comments which leads to the suggestion that both quotes did happen and are not the product of imagination that many have now labelled them as; so Naka-san under a strict NDA but describing the Revolution controller as ?pleasantly surprising?, while Molyneux reminds us never to underestimate Nintendo.

TVG is expecting a Revolution announcement to occur very soon and will be at a Nintendo event tomorrow dubbed ?Christmas comes early this year??; we?ll have further information very shortly?

What is TVG?

[Dazzla Veteran]

Total Video Games, the website you linked to.

[Dale]

Total Video Games, the website you linked to.

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sorry :blush: - lets hope this isn't fake :)