OrangeSoul Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 what u mean rock? the interview at ign.com said those were in game graphics... and even if they were cgi... they SHOULD be in game graphics, bcuz those graphics r the next generation.da relic 585950472[/snapback] so tell me this. microsofts real-time graphics are running on Alpha kits 6 months before release and thus like PC graphics at the moment but Sonys real time graphics are running on final kits 1 year before release? they havent finalised the RSX or Cell chip how can they make ingame graphics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 what u mean rock? the interview at ign.com said those were in game graphics... and even if they were cgi... they SHOULD be in game graphics, bcuz those graphics r the next generation.da relic 585950472[/snapback] No, the interview with the Killzone 2 developers said those were NOT in-game and they were prerendered scenes. But thats what they WANT and HOPE for it to look like. Read before you speak or go back to the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) So orangesoul, you take Microsoft-provided information as divine truth and take Sony-provided information as the devils entrails. I respected you as a cohort at the beginning of E3, but now your credibility is out the door. 585950340[/snapback] well... sony does have a bad track-record. even i ran into a problem /w an md player/recorder i bought that preportedlysupported pc connectivity (file transferring, etc.)- when in reality the usb connection was as effective as an audio out to audio in on the md player. fact is, they market to sell. misinformation has been a valuable ally in their international success. with ms i haven't had near the problems i have had /w sony products (i was unable to return the md player, subsequentially sony gained another 250 bux result the partial truth on the package.) my experiences /w ms's customer relations department have been extremely pleasing as opposed to sony's. (oh, and my vaio laptop that sports 3d grafix evidently doesn't. the neomagic gpu isn't capable of it.) Edited May 21, 2005 by Dark_INk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slik da relic Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 u guys must understand one thing... i dont have to be convinced... its the regular (mainstream, non hardcore) people that r brainwashed by numbers and eyecandy. why do i need 7 controllers to be able to play on one system? blue tooth? thats one of the cool words in todays society. 6 usb ports? blu ray disk? just another way of sony reelin u in. its always gonna be about numbers and tech talk in this world. ALWAYS! da relic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 u guys must understand one thing... i dont have to be convinced... its the regular (mainstream, non hardcore) people that r brainwashed by numbers and eyecandy. why do i need 7 controllers to be able to play on one system? blue tooth? thats one of the cool words in todays society. 6 usb ports? blu ray disk? just another way of sony reelin u in. its always gonna be about numbers and tech talk in this world. ALWAYS!da relic 585950503[/snapback] Actually its not a way of reelin us in. Blu-Ray is a new disc format using Blue Lasers, it is capable of up to 100GB as of now (Thanks TDK!). Bluetooth is a wireless standard, a very good one at that. No its not about the numbers these days. Please stop talking out of your a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconboy Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 hey orange can u answer this for all of us?..... is that stick up your ass for real or pre rendered. Most of us are getting sooo sick of this stupid argument, try focusing on something else for a while, like your plot to destroy sony after they supposedly killed your father and raped your mother Sony: Obiwan never told you about your father.... I AM your father! OrangeSoul: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidea Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) Ummm.... Microsoft 100000000000000000000000000000000000000 Vs. Sony - (NEGATIVE) 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ? :p PWNED! Go Xbox 360! edit: on a more serious note, I DO NOT like Sony's tech support. I've had a PDA from sony and it's damn hard to get a support from them. Microsoft has a VERY good support team that'll call you back, ask you if you're doing okay with the replacement product, and they actually did that twice to make sure. Microsoft is a better company than Sony in general. Oh.. and I'm prettu sure Microsoft learnt a lot of lessons from the first XBox.. so, they'll probably start buying game devs. or at least get a license. Edited May 21, 2005 by Hidea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) hey orange can u answer this for all of us?..... is that stick up your ass for real or pre rendered. Most of us are getting sooo sick of this stupid argument, try focusing on something else for a while, like your plot to destroy sony after they supposedly killed your father and raped your motherSony: Obiwan never told you about your father.... I AM your father! OrangeSoul: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 585950523[/snapback] so instead of showing us your fascination /w anal probing why not counter orange's posts /w links to other articles. stop him cold in his tracks. :ninja: Edited May 21, 2005 by Dark_INk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Great to see that mature debate is not dead ;) Look guys, this is a marketing battle - Sony and MS are not fully ready to release but these battles garner interest. They don't care if they release lies as it's just to gain interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Great to see that mature debate is not dead ;)Look guys, this is a marketing battle - Sony and MS are not fully ready to release but these battles garner interest. They don't care if they release lies as it's just to gain interest. 585950545[/snapback] all too similar to political campaigns ;) (all sides, no sides; whichever cheese flogs your mote.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 reported. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishkid Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 And whats to say that Sony don't update there specs as they arn't anywhere near finishing, as there PS3 comes out 1 year after XBOX 360 so i'd say there will be more updates on specs for sony just have to wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 understandably a very biased article. it still comes down to the games though. people can keep arguing about the power and speed, but the spec is useless if neither console has a range of games that are good and appeal to a wide range of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stezo2k Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 A lot of you fanboys should GROW UP or go to another site and complain there, why judge a Console by specs? It's about the games as well, remember about 10 years ago most of us judged games by how good they was rather than the graphics/performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) hey orange can u answer this for all of us?..... is that stick up your ass for real or pre rendered.? Most of us are getting sooo sick of this stupid argument, try focusing on something else for a while, like your plot to destroy sony after they supposedly killed your father and raped your mother 585950523[/snapback] Reported>. Why do you people always stoop down to personal attacks ?I'm losing respect for all the PS3/Nintendo fanboys. :whistle:: Edited May 21, 2005 by jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Jack Tretton says in an interview at ign that killzone graphics is ingame. is he lyin? i hope not. i wanna see that big a leap. and im sure im not the only one. punk!!!da relic 585950556[/snapback] Its been said that it WAS pre-rendered concept of how they want the game to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 To me, the thing that matters most are the games itself. 2nd would be the hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fosters] Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Thanks Orange Soul for posting this. I enjoy your posts. Keep Posting more! :D Ignore the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danrarbc Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 This is an absolute ****ing match between two consoles that in the end will be almost identical in performance. It's so immature. I'm starting to see why Nintendo wouldn't want to release specs. Reported. Why do you people always stoop down to personal attacks ?I'm losing respect for all the PS3/Nintendo fanboys. :whistle: 585951638[/snapback] I lost respect for all fanboys (true fanboys, a fanboy is not the same as a fan) long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b mitchell Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 For the love of god, why is this in back page news. This isn't even news. Orange, you claim as soon as Sony posts better specs that you will "wait and see", but as soon as MS posts 360 specs tht show a hint better than PS3 you post them in back page news. I know we arent' supposed to bash other members, but this is getting sickening. Clogging up multiple parts of the forums with early, unfinalized, and otherwise FAKE numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerus Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Of course. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7R1K3R Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 orange is one famous person here in neowin now adays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishid Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 We are going to have like 7 months of these posts. And MS and Sony will issue PRs updating their specs are faster then their competetors. People have to learn to wait till we see the consoles before stating which is better. What exactly is the definition of "better" here anyways? A console that can cook you dinner and have 10 trillion floating point calculations is better then one then can clean your room and has 9 trillion floating point calculations? All that matters are the quality of the GAMES and what new ideas they bring to the gaming world. :yes: I bet you the hardware is very similar and both are capable of probably the same thing. All that matters are the developers, and how they use the power of the console. Edit: Wow that article is so bias, M$ has to be paying a lot of reviewers off to write crap like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle-dude Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Orange Soul, you are such a fanboy. That is just a reposting of the same bogus numbers that were on the Xbox Live employee's blog. You cannot add up memory bandwidth like that. It does not work that way in real life and the shared memory will cause memory contention issues between the GPU and CPU slowing down performance or it will be a real b*tch to program to avoid the contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 That is just a reposting of the same bogus numbers that were on the Xbox Live employee's blog. 585952755[/snapback] Agreed, these numbers are as bogus as the numbers from Sony, dont you agree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts