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Neowinian

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GREAT!!!!

NOW you tell me! J/K, LOL

Seriously, why is that folder even there and consuming 135MB of my hard drive space and also containing uninstall information.

I think my questions are being answered which is that if I want to streamline my install without having all of these packages there then I need to use Nlite but if I don't mind wasting my HD space then I can use autopatcher.

You'd think that if I deleted the $ntuninstall folders that I'd get rid of the updates but nope, they're still there under $hf_mig.

Anyhow, thanks for your help guys - I've learned something from the exchange.

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^ you really want to know what it is, read this

in a nutshell (or as simple as i can make it):

in microsofts development enviroment they have two copies of windows on which they create and test updates, one with just general publicly available updates, and one with hotfixes (quick updates that havent been put through full testing like other updates). when updates are put together, they will include two copies (if there is a hotfix'd one, else just one). when the update is installed it will check to see if any of the files being updated are hotfix versions, and if so install the hotfix copies. if not then the hotfix copies are stored in the $hf_mig$ folder (hotfix migration) incase they are needed in future.

it might seem complicated and confusing keeping two copies of the files like this, but there is an example given on the page i linked to which explains exactly why the hotfix copies are needed to be kept. and the reason for existance of hotfix copies in the first place is because they are used to provide quick fix solutions to problems in corporate systems.

so, you can remove the uninstall folders (i do) and use ccleaner to cleanup the add/remove and other registry entries. you could also uncheck the autopatcher 'keep backups' option on the selection page when installing updates which should prevent them being created in the first place.

however, even with nlite you must always keep the $hf_mig$ folder else in the future your system could become unstable, or produce errors due to file incompatabilities because the backed up hotfix copy of a file wasnt present.

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Neowinian

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Hy !

My company is using a proxy server to acces the internet and because of that server I can't update my WIN2KSP4. Recently I have problems with my OS and I have decided to reinstall it, after that I use Autopacher 2000 April Full release. After running Autopatcher I can't acces the internet because the browser (IE and Mozilla) don't recognize the proxy even though the settings (proxy IP adress and port) are correct.

Can some one help me to solve this problem ?

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+theblazingangel MVC

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^ right, well thats because your trying to use an update release on its own. you need a 'full' or 'lite' release as a base to install update releases onto.

e.g.

to have the latest stuff you could do this:

april06 full/lite + may06 update + june06 update ....

or this:

dec05 full/lite + jan06 update + feb06 update + mar06 update + apr06 update + may06 update ....

update releases are used to update autopatcher with the latest copy of files. they save you from downloading new large full or lite release every month. they should not be used on there own.

@silversf, sorry but i really dont know the answer to your problem, and by the lack of replies no-one else seems to, if you cant find the answer through google i suggest you re-install windows again and do some experimenting to find out what in autopatcher caused the problem, once you know that then you can narrow down the search for an answer.

Neowinian

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^ right, well thats because your trying to use an update release on its own. you need a 'full' or 'lite' release as a base to install update releases onto.

e.g.

to have the latest stuff you could do this:

april06 full/lite + may06 update + june06 update ....

or this:

dec05 full/lite + jan06 update + feb06 update + mar06 update + apr06 update + may06 update ....

update releases are used to update autopatcher with the latest copy of files. they save you from downloading new large full or lite release every month. they should not be used on there own.

@silversf, sorry but i really dont know the answer to your problem, and by the lack of replies no-one else seems to, if you cant find the answer through google i suggest you re-install windows again and do some experimenting to find out what in autopatcher caused the problem, once you know that then you can narrow down the search for an answer.

Thanx for your reply_response_guidance...Really appreciate it_very much...

Neowinian

vantuz

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6) When i double click the AutoPatcher shortcut nothing happens

Go to: C:\Program Files\AutoPatcher\tools, run 'AutoPatcher Module Editor.exe' and close it - next run autopatcher.

If that doesn't help, copy comdlg32.ocx from the AutoPatcher \bin folder to c:\windows\system32 (overwrite existing file if there is one).

I have this problem as mentioned-above. So I tried both the recommendations but it didn't work.

Actually it all started like this: I have April Full 2006 installed and it was working well. Then I downloaded and installed the May 2006 update (installation was successful). I double-clicked on the Auto Patcher shortcut but nothing happened. So I tried the above recommendations. But it didn't resolve the problem. This time I uninstalled and re-installed the April Full 2006 and May Update 2006. And again tried the above methods and still now facing the same problem. I am using Windows XP SP2 32-bit. Please help!!

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gtir

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ok this is a A1 idea and thank you very much its free dont get much these days for free lol.

ok i read most posts and i still dont under stand why i cannot update my may update any help would be cool.

what i have done so for is

only installed April full version and full update pack but when i install may i get a message saying an existing autopatcher installation was not detected in the install directory, if you continue you may experience problems

have 2 autopatch folders in my c drive one called *AutoPatcher 2K* and the other is *AutoPatcher*

i have tried deleting folders and contents of folders in modules and then tried to reinstall may update

i have reinstall the full version of April autopatcher with no luck but it did say if you uninstall this programme you will not be able to install next months update so ill a bit lost be great to use it every month

hope this make sense as im not good with words :>

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^ youve mixed up windows 2000 and windows xp releases, thats why youve got the two different folders ('autopatcher' and 'autopatcher 2k'). the error occurs because the update release is trying to install to one folder while the full release is installed in another.

Neowinian

gtir

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^ youve mixed up windows 2000 and windows xp releases, thats why youve got the two different folders ('autopatcher' and 'autopatcher 2k'). the error occurs because the update release is trying to install to one folder while the full release is installed in another.

^yep you were right 2k was 2000 not xp well done ..

im all working and up to date thank you so much for your time :>

and i will pop in and read the forums :cool:

great stuff

Neowinian

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When i double click the AutoPatcher shortcut nothing happens-

Go to: C:\Program Files\AutoPatcher\tools, run 'AutoPatcher Module Editor.exe' and close it - next run autopatcher.

If that doesn't help, copy comdlg32.ocx from the AutoPatcher \bin folder to c:\windows\system32 (overwrite existing file if there is one).

I looked at the folder and all that's in there is 'modules' folder and the uninstall tool. I don't quite understand what or how to"copy comdlg32.ocx from the AutoPatcher \bin folder to c:\windows\system32 (overwrite existing file if there is one"

Can anyone dumb that down for me?

Thanks!

Neowinian

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6) When i double click the AutoPatcher shortcut nothing happens

Go to: C:\Program Files\AutoPatcher\tools, run 'AutoPatcher Module Editor.exe' and close it - next run autopatcher.

If that doesn't help, copy comdlg32.ocx from the AutoPatcher \bin folder to c:\windows\system32 (overwrite existing file if there is one).

I have this problem as mentioned-above. So I tried both the recommendations but it didn't work.

Actually it all started like this: I have April Full 2006 installed and it was working well. Then I downloaded and installed the May 2006 update (installation was successful). I double-clicked on the Auto Patcher shortcut but nothing happened. So I tried the above recommendations. But it didn't resolve the problem. This time I uninstalled and re-installed the April Full 2006 and May Update 2006. And again tried the above methods and still now facing the same problem. I am using Windows XP SP2 32-bit. Please help!!

I had the same problem, I was doing a clean install of XP w/sp2 for my cousin, I installed April full 2006 and it didnt work, even after I tried the suggestions, I then uninstalled and reinstalled it and tried the suggestions again, I did it 3 times, so the 4th time I installed it I installed the May 2006 update as well same problem. After trying the same thing another 3 times I uninstalled again and I copied mfc42.dll to the system32 dir, and I installed the April 2006 full and it worked like a charm, after I'm done installing the updates I'm going to try it with the May update 2006 and I let you know if it works. Hope it works for you too.

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MAdbUSU

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problmem or not

i install the full version of april autopatcher.....all ok ...then i want to install the updates of may autopatcher ...i get the little verion ...so when i look in add/remov prog.. to see the updates ...nothing only 2-3 hotfix and something to wmp10 ...all the april update are gone...

what i'am doing rong ?....

what i need to do before installing some updates of autopatcher..?

Neowinian

vantuz

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I had the same problem, I was doing a clean install of XP w/sp2 for my cousin, I installed April full 2006 and it didnt work, even after I tried the suggestions, I then uninstalled and reinstalled it and tried the suggestions again, I did it 3 times, so the 4th time I installed it I installed the May 2006 update as well same problem. After trying the same thing another 3 times I uninstalled again and I copied mfc42.dll to the system32 dir, and I installed the April 2006 full and it worked like a charm, after I'm done installing the updates I'm going to try it with the May update 2006 and I let you know if it works. Hope it works for you too.

tried it. still facing the same problem. i am giving up :no:

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  MAdbUSU said:

problmem or not

i install the full version of april autopatcher.....all ok ...then i want to install the updates of may autopatcher ...i get the little verion ...so when i look in add/remov prog.. to see the updates ...nothing only 2-3 hotfix and something to wmp10 ...all the april update are gone...

what i'am doing rong ?....

what i need to do before installing some updates of autopatcher..?

have you actually run the autopatche program?

installing the releases simply extracts the program, you then need to run it to install the updates.

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I have this problem:

6) When i double click the AutoPatcher shortcut nothing happens

Go to: C:\Program Files\AutoPatcher\tools, run 'AutoPatcher Module Editor.exe' and close it - next run autopatcher.

If that doesn't help, copy comdlg32.ocx from the AutoPatcher \bin folder to c:\windows\system32 (overwrite existing file if there is one).

But I have not resolved it...

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