AutoPatcher XP January 2006

[Ozpa]

No full brrr. I just hope February has a Full release. :)

[+theblazingangel MVC]

No full brrr. I just hope February has a Full release.

why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases.

[verteron]

why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases.

Why do you use AutoPatcher? I use it to save time. Installing several files will defeat the purpose. Now, if those smaller update files could update the Full AutoPatcher install file, so I could continue to carry a single file from computer to computer, I wouldn't mind it a bit. Actually I'd definately encourage that. And what about making it executable from CD or flash drive without needing to actually install it? Is that possible?

Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, really. I appreciate that you are doning this at all, every little bit helps. I am just hoping to add constructive criticism. I realize that bandwidth is an issue, but several files are as well. I deal with too many files already. Drivers, software, diag tools, app tools, password files, malware tools, etc... and I am trying to cut the clutter an simplify the process to increase productivity and save time.

[+theblazingangel MVC]

why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases.

Why do you use AutoPatcher? I use it to save time. Installing several files will defeat the purpose. Now, if those smaller update files could update the Full AutoPatcher install file, so I could continue to carry a single file from computer to computer, I wouldn't mind it a bit. Actually I'd definately encourage that. And what about making it executable from CD or flash drive without needing to actually install it? Is that possible?

Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, really. I appreciate that you are doning this at all, every little bit helps. I am just hoping to add constructive criticism. I realize that bandwidth is an issue, but several files are as well. I deal with too many files already. Drivers, software, diag tools, app tools, password files, malware tools, etc... and I am trying to cut the clutter an simplify the process to increase productivity and save time.

1) you want to save time, so why is downloading 200MB every month faster than downloading 5MB?

2) i understand that if you keep the installers then its a little inconvienient having more than one, but its pretty much impossible to create an update release that would update the actual previous package without delving deep into hex editing the executable which is definately not worth the trouble.

3) autopatcher is a portable application; after installing (extracting) from the downloaded package, you can copy everything in c:\program files\autopatcher to a CD, DVD, flash drive, or any other suitable gadget you like. when it comes to an update release, if on a flash drive, simply directly install on top of the release, or if on CD/DVD, copy the CD/DVD to a hard drive, install the update ontop, and create a new CD/DVD.

4) if you dont want to transport it as a folder, you could pack it all up into a zip file or an executable zip file so you can choose where to extract to.

5) you could also use the packing files available in the translators pack thread, and you could repack your new updated copy of autopatcher yourself using the free NSIS installer. this would be exactly as if we had made a full release! the update release modifies the previous release, adding, removing, and replacing files, and then you package it up to exactly what would have been our full release if we had chosen to release it like that ourselves.

[Angelico_Payne]

U install december, install jan update and then copy it to a cd or make a self extracting arcive. and.....

VOILA u have a APJAN06FULL !!!! :woot:

simple as that

P.S. Guys thanks for clearing that up to me

February update here we come - fire away

[verteron]

Great!! I didn't know it was portable. :D Since it has an install process I thought that it registered itself with Windows. I figured I was doing good just reading the entire monthly threads, Jan, Dec, Nov, etc. I didn't really think to look for others.

I save time still with a 200MB download, since I do have broadband, and even though it takes time, it is just click and go. Come back later and get it. I am working on several computers at once anyway. If it was 5MB, I'd likely just sit there an wait for it any way. So one could argue that I waste more time with the smaller download.

So here' a question: if AutoPatcher is truly portable, then why install it? Why not just unpack it in place? If I can just zip the c:\Progr~1\Autopatcher directory to my flash drive, then can I just copy the directory instead and then use it on another computer without "installing" it? Just plug in my flash drive, navigate to its' AP directory and run it from there? I am trying it now. :shiftyninja:

Here's a thought, why not create your own SP3? Take Dec05 and add SP2 to it, make it one big file, then just continue regular full autopatchers from then on. Then maybe you could make it so one could just add the SP2.exe to it's directory manually, to at least keep that download size down. :blink:

Or what about a script that just downloads all the updates automatically from MS, then that will keep major bandwidth issues down. So the end user downloads a small file, when run, it downloads all the required files from MS and integrates them automatically into one directory and can then install them to patch windows. The script would need to change for every new release I am sure, but could that at least work for the SP3 thing? Or am I just... :wacko:

[Angelico_Payne]

I'll bet some of the "senior" members will reply you but here's my two cents..

I save time still with a 200MB download, since I do have broadband, and even though it takes time, it is just click and go. Come back later and get it. I am working on several computers at once anyway. If it was 5MB, I'd likely just sit there an wait for it any way. So one could argue that I waste more time with the smaller download.

You are preaching to the wrong choir :D Compromises are sometimes a less of two evils, adapt and move on.

So here' a question: if AutoPatcher is truly portable, then why install it? Why not just unpack it in place? If I can just zip the c:\Progr~1\Autopatcher directory to my flash drive, then can I just copy the directory instead and then use it on another computer without "installing" it? Just plug in my flash drive, navigate to its' AP directory and run it from there? I am trying it now. shiftyninja.gif

when u download your download could be corrupt, hence the packaging, you might have noticed the verifying feature (+ compressing feature). Once u have downloaded it play with it as you wish.

If some modules is corrupt, and it doesn't show up, imagine what can happen to your computer...

Here's a thought, why not create your own SP3? Take Dec05 and add SP2 to it, make it one big file, then just continue regular full autopatchers from then on. Then maybe you could make it so one could just add the SP2.exe to it's directory manually, to at least keep that download size down. blink.gif

Installing SP2 after the Windows installation is not recommended, but it can be done, and there are some people that have allready done it (e.g. WindowsXP SP3 gold edition, black edition,.. and if you have enough knowledge about windows unattended installation process, you could do all the work automaticlly.

Or what about a script that just downloads all the updates automatically from MS, then that will keep major bandwidth issues down. So the end user downloads a small file, when run, it downloads all the required files from MS and integrates them automatically into one directory and can then install them to patch windows. The script would need to change for every new release I am sure, but could that at least work for the SP3 thing? Or am I just... wacko.gif

Yes U R .... but I admire people that have ...... ideas and cohones to make them reality

Anyway it will not be a easy task, good luck.

[ozzykicks2002]

I just found this program and I think it is a fantastic idea!! I was writing a Batch file ever week or so with all the updates and it worked alright but here is mu problem. Im the computer guy for lik 800 people plus and we are not allowed to use ghost so fine thats cool i can deal with that. but when it comes to the updates we ahve to have them install by a certain time or else the computer will run a shut down script. that is why i love this program you guys made I can do them akll at once!! only things is that you guys are missions some windows updates there are not in the december version full or in the jan edition either they are

KB893086

KB892647

KB903235

KB896688

These are the only updates that it is missing. there are a littler older updates as well. these updates are around the july 05 to november 05 time frame. is there is anyway that you guys could implament these into your program that woul;d be great!!

[the_guy]

893086 is superseded by 900725. 903235 and 896688 are replaced by 905915. 892647 I can't seem to find.

the_guy

[Hanschke]

how can i slipstream all the stuff from the autopatcher to my sp2 win xp cd ? :blush:

[Angelico_Payne]

U can slipstream Microsoft stuff so it's properly patched up, regarding other, like java... unattended installation could do. for splipstreaming u can use autostreamer or Nlite...

That's as far as my knowledge goes...

Senior geezers help this young lad :D

[Hanschke]

is there a manual for autpatcher and autostreamer working together?

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

AutoStreamer cannot slipstream hotfixes into the XP install disc (Yet). This is planned for the next version.

You can, however, setup AutoPatcher as an unattended install: http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/7/

[Hanschke]

thx for the link :)

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

you're welcome

[Angelico_Payne]

But he can slipstream hotfixes & updates with nlite , right? :huh:

[calidude]

My host is offline because I was going through 2-3GB of bandwidth a day, it started out fine but I pulled the file when I saw that in one day I went through 2.6GB of bandwidth with just the 5.7MB or so update file.

[Angelico_Payne]

My host is offline because I was going through 2-3GB of bandwidth a day, it started out fine but I pulled the file when I saw that in one day I went through 2.6GB of bandwidth with just the 5.7MB or so update file.

really well as I was saying aliens :alien: are leeching your bandwith 'cause only baout 30 people voted on using it

P.S. put a get ip script on your server to see if the same people are leechin it, or some sort of script that prevents leechin... :unsure:

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

Dude, It's hardly going to be one guy downloading it thousands of times... just because nobody wants to vote in your poll.

7,952 downloads on the torrents alone for APXPDecFull.

[Angelico_Payne]

Agreed, but in calidudes place I would want to make sure... :yes:

[alexi02]

UzziSoft.com Mirror for English Jan06 ENU Update:

http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window..._ENU_Update.exe

UzziSoft.com Mirror for Portuguese (Portugal) Jan06 ENU Update:

http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window...uese_Update.exe

UzziSoft.com Mirror for Portuguese (Brazil) Jan06 ENU Update:

http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window...azil_Update.exe

:)

[Neo Razgriz]

Silly question, but could I use Autopatcher to update a copy of XP Pro that DOES NOT have SP2 on it? :blink:

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

There's about 0 use in not installing SP2, but if you inist, read the FAQ:

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=410121

[cairo]

im in hot water, after i update my autopatcher xp from 2005 december to 2006 january version, when my windows xp go to desktop and running my startup program,

after few second, it comes out blue screen , is physical memory problem,

did i make a mistake to update it ? i didn't remove the version 2005 and i directly update to 2006 jan, did i ?

what should i do ?

i try go to safe mode to remove the autopatcher and download the 2005 dec autopatcher back, same thing, its doesn't recover.

any suggestion or solution for me ?

i will kindly appreaciate if somebody can help me .

oh ya, im using windows xp home edition

Edited February 3, 2006 by cairo

[+theblazingangel MVC]

@cairo, you did the right thing installing the jan06 update release ontop of the previous release. its only prev full/lite releases you should remove first.

i dont believe your bsod has anything to do with ap. i guess your system just wasn't stable enough to have the patches installed, or prehaps it was something else altogether.

Get the basic desciption from near the top of the bsod, and the details like the error code from near the bottom.

Once you have that info, post a new message for help in one of these neowin forum sections.