Live Messenger Refresh Now Available

[scakesence]

You wait until MS decides to send you the new version.

Or you go and download a leaked version ( plenty around already ). Problem is, that talking about anything leaked here in neowin it's like talking about homosexuality back in 1950. Tab? 100% ^^

[Larney]

Hmm...I got an invite for this but uninstalled it after about 10 minutes of using it. This one looks a bit better I guess, the only thing that would get me to use this build is if there was a patch to get rid of the ugly ad at the bottom and some other stuff, like the Mess.be patch for Messenger 7.5. Feature-wise I wasn't really impressed. OOOO AAHHH You can send offline messages! Well, ICQ could do that about 7 years ago, it's nothing new. I think that's the only new thing you CAN do with it, to my knowledge :\.

Urm http://apatch.ikhost.com/wlm.php anybody?

When will people learn that mess.be patch sucks :/

[Crazysah]

DAMN! I can't download it! I din't get the email and it isin't on connect but I am a Live Messenger Beta tester!

[Slimy]

Urm http://apatch.ikhost.com/wlm.php anybody?

When will people learn that mess.be patch sucks :/

When a-patch becomes wlm-patch ;)

[J=n=o]

what is the difference from the 1st generation beta tester than the 2nd one?

are the 2nd ones the invited by other beta testers or what??

btw, this build is nice :D

[Favorable7404]

I can't find how to change the size of the icon of my contacts, it's small and I want it to be medium with the DP I can see.

[Rudy]

i have a question about this aptach program, does it have to run in the background like messenger plus! or does it patch the files ?

nm, answered my own question :p great lil program

Edited February 12, 2006 by Rudy

[Favorable7404]

i have a question about this aptach program, does it have to run in the background like messenger plus! or does it patch the files ?

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[Chrysalis]

The gui in the older beta was HIDEOUS and didnt integrate with windows at all. The screenshots show man got the 7.x icons back which is good the other ones were too big and looked like they were drawn up in paint in a rush. So the new gui at least looks more tidy and integrates better with the win2k style desktop.

I am also a beta tester and is stupid to not roll this out to ALL beta testers, so now we have 2 different tiers of testers right? some treated on a higher standing then others.

[Larney]

The gui in the older beta was HIDEOUS and didnt integrate with windows at all. The screenshots show man got the 7.x icons back which is good the other ones were too big and looked like they were drawn up in paint in a rush. So the new gui at least looks more tidy and integrates better with the win2k style desktop.

I am also a beta tester and is stupid to not roll this out to ALL beta testers, so now we have 2 different tiers of testers right? some treated on a higher standing then others.

It's how Vista is done as well. Live with it or complain to Microsoft there are too many beta testers and watch them actually care :)

[MrCobra]

Don't mention leaked copy here...

Why not? He didn't post a link to it. Posting links to A-Patch here violates the EULA of MS but yet the mods allow it. Why should one be allowed and not the other?

[Chewbob]

Does anyone else have a problem with people's artist names not showing with 'now playing' plugin in PSM?

[the_mole001]

yeah i have the 'artist name' not showing bug also!

i am using winamp instead of windows media player though so i'm not sure if it's just not compatible in some way or what. its kinda weird and annoying lol.

[Chewbob]

Well I'm using WMP so it's not a problem with Winamp :p

[sfnoxious]

I think the new version of WLM is a huge improvement from the last. It looks ?professional? instead of ?kindergarten?. I like the square edges around the display pictures because it doesn?t cut bits out so you can?t see them. In the contact list it would be good to have a background feature like the chat window. Also for the contact list it would much better with darker themes, to get rid of the lines that separate each contact. They stick out and look bad. The contact list doesn?t seem to support small picture icons like MSN Messenger 7 did. It only supports the larger pictures and they look un-neat.

I can?t wait until the Messenger Plus and Mess Patch comes out for WLM because they always make it look a lot more aesthetically pleasing.

If anyone is looking for a way to change the background of their contact list, here it is. Create a .gif image named lvback.gif and paste it into your MSN Messenger directory C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger

[peewee41]

yeah i have the artist bug as well....but it only affects my contacts who uses WMP...i (and few of my contacts) use winamp with the wlm plugin and i'm not affected by it, even when seeing myself in the contact list lol....pretty weird

[HoochieMamma]

You know what, I'm doing a bit of a back flip on my position with WLM refresh. If you keep it with the default colour and put a nice background on it and a-patch it's ass sideways it looks quite nice.

[sfnoxious]

Yes after 'A-Patching WLM's ass' it does look a whole lot cleaner.

Edited February 12, 2006 by sfnoxious

[Lee]

People need to take positive things from this. I can't believe the number of complaints because Microsoft listened to their beta testers and tried to change the UI (so they got it wrong - they'll improve it for the next refresh).

• The huge padded "Search contact" area on the contact list has been dramatically reduced, meaning less space is taken up
  
• Less system resources required (something people complain about, now it's fixed nobody cares?)
  
• Less bloat considerably (people complained here too, nobody congratulating them on reducing it?)
  

People complain, it gets looked into (and even fixed), but people just look for something else to complain about. :shiftyninja:

[Aamir1]

People need to take positive things from this. I can't believe the number of complaints because Microsoft listened to their beta testers and tried to change the UI (so they got it wrong - they'll improve it for the next refresh).

• The huge padded "Search contact" area on the contact list has been dramatically reduced, meaning less space is taken up
  
• Less system resources required (something people complain about, now it's fixed nobody cares?)
  
• Less bloat considerably (people complained here too, nobody congratulating them on reducing it?)
  

People complain, it gets looked into (and even fixed), but people just look for something else to complain about.:shiftyninja::

:laugh:: So true.

[lordtinuviel]

i dont think the problem is the whole UI......for me is the whole damn color is really annoying it looks like something for 95 lol

[MiamiGuy]

How do you go about to change the background for the contact list? I've seen some pictures here where people have done it. Any help? Also if you put the picture as the background, will it stretch according to how big your contact list is or not?

[Larney]

You know what, I'm doing a bit of a back flip on my position with WLM refresh. If you keep it with the default colour and put a nice background on it and a-patch it's ass sideways it looks quite nice

Indeed, it is going in the right direction after some Apatching and changing of stuff but using polygamy or something is making this build crash unexpectedly which is becoming annoying :/

[Meshuggah]

Figured it out....MSN looks great now and doesnt take up so much space

Edited February 12, 2006 by Inactive Vigor

[Slimy]

Indeed, it is going in the right direction after some Apatching and changing of stuff but using polygamy or something is making this build crash unexpectedly which is becoming annoying :/

Doesn't crash here (b27 of apatch)

what A-Patch options did i not select to get rid of the huge buttons on the top of the msg box?

Basically everything on page 3.